Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:02 PM Feb 2016

I know Hillary is favored to do well in the South but what about states like CA, CO, OR, NY, NJ, PA?

Has there been any analysis on other NE and Western States? Some of these seem to be a good fit for Sanders, especially if he won NH by a 20 pt. margin. We already know it has tightened up in Nevada.

13 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
1. I've seen her running ahead in CA
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:05 PM
Feb 2016

And we did go for her in '08. That said it's way early. We don't vote till June.

Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
2. Those huge leads are name recognition and most people don't look close at the election until about
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:06 PM
Feb 2016

two weeks before it occurs.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
3. the question is whether winning the south will give her the momentum
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

or whether different states are different states

Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
8. Name recognition.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:24 PM
Feb 2016

Nate Silver has said over and over that people don't look at the candidates closely until about two weeks before their election and then make their final choice one to two days before. Any poll beyond two weeks out from the primary is absolutely meaningless.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. In your fever dreams. The last Oregon polling I know of was in August and Hillary had a 5 point lead
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 07:20 PM
Feb 2016

44-39. That was polling done end of July, so that slight lead is long shot to hell. Here's a link, what do you have?
"The July 25-27 survey by Portland-based DHM Research shows Clinton, the former secretary of state, leading the Democratic primary in Oregon with 44 percent of the vote to 39 percent for Sanders, a Vermont senator."
http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2015/08/oregon_presidential_poll_hilla.html

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
7. I think she loses all those.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

Plus Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio, and several others. She'll still do well in the Confederate South, but a single digit loss by Sanders in SC could weaken her firewall in the south, and cause Blacks to take a closer look at Sanders before deciding. I'm guessing she's safe in Florida.

Quixote1818

(28,946 posts)
10. Good point. However, if Sanders wins Nevada and if he wins CO, MN, MA, VT,
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:48 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton would have TX, OK, AR, TN, AL, GA, NC, SC, VA

Sanders would have: NH, MA, MN, CO, NV, VT,

This puts it at 6 to 9 with one tie.

VA might go sanders too but doubtful.

Iowa basically a tie

It still looks like a horserace and moves to more neutral territory after that. It then ends up a horserace until the last few states.

My mistake as I thought WY and AK went on Super Tuesday but only for Republicans.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
11. I dont agree with the list of states you gave to Bernie.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:13 PM
Feb 2016

Those will certainly be more competitive but I doubt he wins them all.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»I know Hillary is favored...