2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPro-Clinton Columnist In Bed With Clinton Staffer — Literally
http://www.menstrait.com/article/pro-clinton-columnist-in-bed-with-clinton-staffer-literally/Over the past 24 hours, a flurry of scandal has unfolded involving MSNBC contributor, Washington Post opinion columnist and prolific Clinton supporter Jonathan Capehart.
Writing an opinion piece for the Washington Post, Capehart sought to sling mud at Bernie Sanders Swiftboat-style in questioning Bernie Sanders past achievements in fighting for civil rights on behalf of African-American communities in the 1960s. (This, itself, isnt even an original idea, as Capehart was simply jumping on the Establishments anti-Sander claims, which continue time after time to be disproved or found to be outright lies. (Here, here, here and here in case youd like some background reading.)
But that is not the central thesis of this story. Instead, lets look a little more closely at Jonathan Capehart himself, and the flurry of lies and misdirections for which he is quickly becoming known.
Capehart, who currently offers his opinions to readers of the Washington Post and viewers on MSNBC, has spent the past five years in a long-term relationship with Nicholas Schmit IV, a long-term Clinton aide. Schmit has served in various capacities for the Clinton family and the US State Department under Clinton since 2004. You can see his full resume on LinkedIn, but weve summarized the key timeline of his career here.
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leftofcool
(19,460 posts)And this is your business how?
Matariki
(18,775 posts)I wonder what he was promised in return. Because by doubling down on his lie, instead of just admitting a mistake, he's hurting his career. So something must be making that worth it.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)that about them. Funny how when your own ox gets gored its different.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)But if we say anything about Hillary, even if it is the truth...Oh Noes, it's not fair.
wolfie001
(2,252 posts)Funny how that works, tis a classic example.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Perogie
(687 posts)Can you help me out? What part of it is homophobic?
EDIT: I just realized you wrote homephobic. I still need your help on that. What part of the site is against homes?
Merryland
(1,134 posts)The facts, as I understand them, are that Mr. Capehart's husband has worked, and works, for Clinton for some time. Mr. Capehart and his spouse share a house that, presumably, his spouse's income has helped pay for. Beholden to Clinton? Just maybe.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Most of us have to work to pay our mortgages. Capehart and his spouse are no different.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)It is about the motives.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)How totally unheard of for a married couple to share political views! Something must be done about this hideous situation. Bernie will pass a law that forces people to marry outside their political alignment!
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)The very sloppy reporting technique, the lack of disclosure about his potential conflict of interest and the lame rationalizations now that he has been busted. Running scared on Twitter. He's getting exactly what he deserves.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:59 PM - Edit history (1)
and Mary Matalin's? When you and your spouse are IN THE SAME business, working in concert to mess with another politician, it sure seems relevant to me. And it's NOT about sex lives. It's about the collusion.
(edited to clarify)
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)Is it your right to know what position they have during sex. Do you want to tell us about Bernie having sex with his wife. I worked with my wife in a restaurant. Was our sex live rel event to your hamburger.
No you just posted some shit and are trying to cover it up. A jury may remove my post but your post is despicable.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)The discussion is about RELATIONSHIP not sex. And the relationship in question is a clear conflict of interest in light of the journalist telling lies to hurt the opponent of his spouse's employer. He had a journalistic duty to, at the very least, make known his possible conflict of interest.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)This was big news when it broke, now Clinton followers are trying to shut it down at every opportunity.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)You're the only one who brought up positions! Yikes. Why would you even go there? That's just weird.
Now I know you're not that naive to not realize that relationships, whether they be romantic or otherwise, can cause people to have allegiances and even motives for slimy actions, such as Capehart's obvious hit piece.
.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)I just don't like him wielding the power of the Washington Post pen to try to destroy a good man and forget to mention his partner's financial relationship with the other candidate.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Nothing OBJECTIVE ABOUT MR CAPEHART as a journalist here. He is in da tank fer Hillary and this revelation only serves to add further emphasis to it! Jonathan is a SHILL NOT A JOURNALIST!
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Most of the time Republicans come to mind.
cali
(114,904 posts)I doubt you'd say that it's about his sex life if he was straight and someone pointed out that his partner worked for Hillary.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)his sex life in any way?
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Funny that.
As I just posted to someone else, except in your case I'm not certain...
I know you're not that naive to not realize that relationships, whether they be romantic or otherwise, can cause people to have allegiances and even motives for slimy actions, such as Capehart's obvious hit piece.
.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Disclosed this conflict of interest
deathrind
(1,786 posts)On a personal level as another poster said it is no ones business. On a professional level this is a clear conflict of interest.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Yeah...full disclosure here would have been the order of the day, it's just the professional thing to do.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Deception by omission.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Said individual claims to be a journalist as well.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)This is just another team bernie conspiracy theory.
Broward
(1,976 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)If he rules in favor of big coal?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)this is a conflict of interest that under the code of ethics of the SPJ should have been revealed, or better yet, not write the story.
Right now this is as far as you can get from Bernie and it is about Capehart and why people do not trust the media.
And from the SPJ code of ethics
http://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp
eggplant
(3,911 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)even if there was a slight smell of conflict of interest
eggplant
(3,911 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)when they would not do that if this was oh Breitbart...
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)The only place it was, even if it contained some truth , would be some petty little blog and some gossip blurb on a talking head circle jerk. In other words, right up his alley.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)where Mr. Capehart is doing an amazing job ruining his journalistic cred. #RetractCapehart
Matariki
(18,775 posts)just want to acknowledge that. I saw your post the other day. At the time I was still thinking this was an honest mistake and being blown out of proportion.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Cali is the first person I saw mention this. Good investigating!
840high
(17,196 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)If the shoe was on the other foot so to speak I could hear the clamor already
Disingenuous to say the least
mgmaggiemg
(869 posts)mac56
(17,569 posts)Peregrine Took
(7,415 posts)Sounds like YOU are the one who has the hang up about the sex of his friend.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Good journalists often over-disclose. "I went to a party that this guy also attended" sort of thing where any conflict of interest would be very tenuous.
This is a much larger conflict, and he did not disclose it.
pennylane100
(3,425 posts)if their relationship was heterosexual. It is perfectly legitimate to point out when a person's significant other has "skin in the game" Nobody gets a pass and it is not acceptable to give a pass to anyone, be they gay, straight or transsexual.
Gene Debs
(582 posts)bullshit smears against Hillary Clinton were found to be boinking a top staffer in the Sanders campaign, you'd suddenly find that unacceptable. Am I right?
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 14, 2016, 08:59 PM - Edit history (1)
Capehart's hit piece was so over-the-top---and such sloppy journalism--his bizarre behavior warrants an examination into what would motivate him.
Finding out that he's the partner of a Clinton staffer certainly reveals a great deal.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Response to leftofcool (Reply #1)
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geologic
(205 posts)Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)It is none of there business.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I worked as a reporter for 13 years. My editors would have NEVER allowed me to cover the people and/or organizations that employed my husband for obvious reasons.
You really can't see that?
John Poet
(2,510 posts)End of auto-response.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)aesop55
(3 posts)The other night I was watching Chris Matthews on MSNBC. And then I watched him again on an interview with Thom Hartmann. It bothered me because the better Senator Sanders does, the more vile Chris Matthews becomes.
And then I remembered that last year, Matthews on his show Hardball, said that his wife, Kathleen, was considering running for Congress. He assured his audience that it would no way effect his ability to be impartial. Hmmmm.......
So I looked up Kathleen Matthews FaceBook page. Wow - all of the pictures of Kathleen with Jeanne Shaheen, and Hillary Clinton. One picture of Kathleen and Hillary was taken 40 years ago. Now, you know that it takes money and connections to win elections. And Kathleen's relationship with Hillary and all of Hillary's endorsers will be very important for her chances to win the seat in Congress.
And it will be very important for Hillary to win the primary nomination. And Chris knows that.
Am I poking my nose in their marital relationships? No. Am I connecting the dots as to why Chris Matthews has become so toxic about Bernie Sanders? Yes. There is a point when you cross the line between honest journalism (reporting the facts) and conflict of interest (distorting the facts for your own gain).
Clearly Chris Matthews and Jonathan Capehart have crossed that line - regardless of whether their partners are opposite or same sex. The conflict is the same.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)in relationships. Often, they share their political outlooks. What are you implying here?
Matariki
(18,775 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Uff da!
jkbRN
(850 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and given that he doesn't seem to have the personality of matalin/carville, it is not likely he will take a pro bernie position or an anti hillary position.
its a fairly straight line, unfortunately.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)You see Josh Marshall or Krugman say things like, "Disclosure: I met this guy at a party once" all the time.
This would be a far greater conflict, but there was no disclosure.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I always followed that rule. But, I also never had any conflicts of interest. I refused to put myself in that position.
That said, this is a bogus controversy from the get-go.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)then none of this would have mattered. But the fact is he intentionally lied and topping that with a close relationship with a Clinton staffer makes the conflict of interest a story too.
Another reputation ruined by association with a Clinton. How many is that in the last week? Three or four?
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)It's not something I've been participating in in any way.
Old photos and memories do not matter in any real way.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Carry on.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)at WaPo should have never let him cover the Democratic nomination "beat." It's a clear conflict of interest.
He could cover the Republicans if he wanted, but since he has an obvious financial interest in one of the Democrats, he cannot appear unbiased.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)his partner has that kind of relationship with the Clintons, it absolutely has to have an influence
LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Please explain ...
LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)and discovering a seemingly pure, but tainted water source has riddled the body with creepy-crawlies.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)dsc
(52,162 posts)typical gutter snipe crap.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)get real. pffttt.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Not at all. He's been almost goaded into making snarky comments about Hillary and he refuses the bait every time. False Equivalency. Plus, 'the other guy would do it' is never an excuse for wrongdoing.
This is not how journalism works. It didn't used to be anyway.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)there is a close relationship between Cape and this other guy,with a connection to Hillary. Come on now.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Bernie is being swiftboated by people with an agenda. Trying to turn it around by saying he would do the same is not only lame, but shows complete ignorance of Bernie's demonstrated character.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)so Hillarys' close relationship with wall street elite and big corps. do not have any influence on her
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)This petty ratfuking story warranted a column, a tv appearance, countless snarky tweets, a call to the photographer, a call to the widow and another column defending his bull shit in the face of overwhelming evidence. All while failing to disclose his conflict of interest.
Yeah, it's gutter snipe crap alright.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Time retracted their insinuation. The photographer, Danny Lyon, confirmed Sanders' identity in the photo. The archivists at the University of Chicago fixed the caption back to its original state. There is NO doubt that the photo is of Sanders.
Capehart is losing credibility and yet he is CLINGING to his misinformation. Either he stubbornly doesn't like to admit errors or he's getting sometime more valuable than his journalistic integrity in return.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:39 PM - Edit history (1)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/02/11/stop-sending-around-this-photo-of-bernie-sanders/
And sorry, outraged partisans, but the phrase "in bed together" is not for nothing.
This was a motivated lie by a motivated person with direct personal connections to the Clinton campaign.
It's not irrelevant or unseemly to note that Capehart's bizarre fabrications and attacks on Sanders may be explained in part by his partner's history as a literal Clinton employee.
If it seems too personal a thing to discuss, the way to avoid that would have been for Capehart not to use his position in the national news media to spread ridiculous deliberate misinformation in an effort smear a candidate.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)Capehart was done in by his partner. Partner said something like "Hey are you ready for this?" and Capehart never did his own research in it. How many people have been done in by that same thing.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Just 2 hours ago: "This is a story where the Civil-Rights activism of Bernie Sanders and Bruce Rappaport collide"
3 hours ago: "I really respect Danny Lyon, Randy Ross told me Im a hundred percent sure that hes wrong.
4 hours ago "Im certain hes wrong. I mean, I was married to Bruce, said Randy Ross."
Not even "half-honest"
mgmaggiemg
(869 posts)tell me what I am missing...to HRC supporters in a relationship is not a scandal....a republican and a dem in a relationship would be a scandal....
Matariki
(18,775 posts)after being proven completely untrue, instead of retracting and apologizing he is doubling down. Why? What does he get in return for destroying his credibility?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511229291
mgmaggiemg
(869 posts)has nothing to do with sex...obviously a lot of people didn't know it was bernie in the photo I have the same thing...in my highshcool year book I am pictured in a play...the editor got the name wrong and put the name of someone who could be similar to me...to the photo is forever and ever for all time incorrectly attributed ....there's just nothing I can do...so many people were wrong about the photo it's not something that can be uniquely pinned on him....although he should acknowledge it and issue a correction the way all reporters do
Matariki
(18,775 posts)If you *honestly* don't believe that who is married to who in politics, well you are being incredibly naive.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)Capehart may well be an asshole, etc, etc, but targeting him as a homosexual like this is sort of beyond the pale. Of course we may suspect personal motivations for Capehart's "sins" but, just like with Tweetie his personal involvement with a Clintonian isn't even a starter of a story.
He is just a silly, ambitious young man who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. We all know people like that. Hell, some of us have been people like that. Some still are. The point is that, here in the US in 2016, digging up the fact that Nick and Johnny are an item has nothing to do with what we are up in arms about.
The LGBTQ (is that right?) community should not be made to feel that Sanders people, many of whom are part of that community (oh, my stars and garters!), is going to try and "smear" Capehart and co for something as commonplace as that.
Capehart is a bad journalist (perhaps already suggested by his sucking up to Tweetie). Anything else beyond that is his business, not ours.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)I'm part of the LGBTQ community, so just forget trying this tactic with me.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)I'm glad to see I got the LGBTQ thing right, by the way. I don't belong so I wasn't actually sure. I can't even say some of my best friends are members. Don't really know.
I do know that if I were Irish American, on the other hand (and I am) and somebody interrupted a whole line of argument implying I wrote an attack on a candidate because I was in bed with another Irish American on a regular basis I would think that argument could be viewed as deflecting from the main point.
Capehart is no credit to journalism. He is damaged goods. That is the point.
And since he has been caught, any possible hope for support from the Clintonians is dust in the wind.
Love those old song lyrics...
Matariki
(18,775 posts)When a journalist is doing hit pieces on a candidate and it turns out that their husband/wife/partner is employed by the other candidate, it matters. I think that is obvious.
Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)Nor would that be an issue if his partner was a woman. It's because the partner works for Clintons, and what that means.
Nothing at all to do with his sexuality, or that he is gay.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Get serious.
You're filtering waayyy too much.
Peregrine Took
(7,415 posts)farleftlib
(2,125 posts)this has nothing whatsoever to do with his sexual orientation. This is classic conflict of interest and journalistic bias. He has something to gain by a Clinton win and that needs to be exposed when he is swiftboating her opponent.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)If his heterosexual wife was a Clinton employee, the implication would be the same.
Capehart is a liar abusing his position as a journalist here. The rest of his identity is not the problem in any way.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Congratufuckinglations.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)That really did surprise me, as a former New Yorker who's been involved with politics since Hillary and I were Goldwater supporters.
I guess that's why I sit up straight when something happens that sets off my "unintended consequences" alarm.
It started sounding loudly, like the Tardis gong in Dr. Who, when I actually read that article.
Capehart is done. Even if the Clintonians prevail he has failed. The legendary Clinton loyalty doesn't extend to outsiders who fumble the ball so obviously.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)He's being targeted as a shoddy journalist, in bed -- figuratively and literally -- with a Clinton staffer.
Capehart is 48. Not exactly "young."
I care about the Fourth Estate, and based on the backlash over this story, I'm not alone.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)Nobody on this board has expressed the least bit of homophobia, or targeted Capehart's sexual/marital preference. His spouse works for Clinton. Come on.
Iggy Knorr
(247 posts)It's his lack of ethics or integrity that everyone is upset about.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)from a Clinton win. could be anything from a peach press secretary position to something in the state dept. on the flip-side, if Clinton goes down, it's really awful for their bottom line. so there's huge motivation to flack for HRC. to leave this relationship undisclosed is dishonest in the extreme.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)The article as written and posted sort of stressed something else.
Two points...
The LGBQT community is an oppressed, supressed minority. It may not seem that way in NYC where I spent most of my life but even there it is barely beneath the surface. Out here in the Southwest it is much more blatant. I hate to use the "sensitivity" buzzword but reprinting that article and bringing up Capehart's sexuality in the process is, well, and IMHO, pretty, pretty, pretty insensitive.
AND
Conflict of interest? Hey, folks, everyone on the other side with any sort of stake in the current status quo has a conflict of interest, whether its DWS or Capehart or Tweetie or the New York Times or the Washington Post or whatever. You are in the narrow gate and all the armies of Persia are marching at us.
We few, we precious few, cannot afford to gratuitously insult any of our partners by hanging the Capehart albatross around their necks.
I think I need some coffee...
MisterP
(23,730 posts)actual gay people don't care who he's with, we'd care what job hubby has
I don't think bashers are gonna be motivated by the fact that the guy who crudely swiftboated a 50-year-old photo was incidentally a gay man
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)and he doesn't get to use it as a sheild either.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)All these people who slighted Sanders will learn after the revolution!!!!!!!!!!
Matariki
(18,775 posts)This is all over twitter. Tough luck for the old guard who relied on telling lies in newspaper and television to get their way.
It's must be a sad life to be so suspicious of everyone! These two are in a relationship, so he must be getting something in return to write a piece he would probably have written anyway. Two Hillary supporters in a relationship! The scandal!
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Sad life indeed!
geologic
(205 posts)beedle
(1,235 posts)The person who took a 50 year old picture that at worst, even if his 'story' were true, would have been a simple mislabelling issue, and tried to spin it as some conspiracy about Bernie's dishonest civil rights activism creds?
I mean the only way someone could be more 'tin foily' would be if when shown evidence they were wrong, they refused to issue a retraction ... oh right!
tularetom
(23,664 posts)He has pretty much compromised his own future and probably that of his buddy as well. And he probably should not expect the Clintons to lift a finger to help him out.
The dumb shit.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)They try to tie the fact people are catching him lieing with " tearing down a member of the lgbtq community and a "progressive journalist" so later they can call bernie supporters homophobes
Just more division politics from camp weathervain
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Only straight relationships, by their very nature, constitute a conflict of interest? That's news to me. Because nobody said his gay relationship was the problem. His partner stands to gain from Hillary's presidency and he swiftboated her opponent. That needs to have a light shone on it.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)In YOU trying to use sexual orientation as a wedge issue.
It has no bearing whatsoever in this conflict of interest case. Would you say that if he was black that his racial background has anything to do with it??
Shame on you.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)This LGBTQ person sees right though that transparent attempt to shut this thread down
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)it's a detail, that his partner is part of Hillary's team however does, lets simply call it 'bad optics'
Fearless
(18,421 posts)The sexual orientation of the person has no bearing in this conflict of interest issue. It impacts no facts, changes no positions, and neither increases nor decreases the conflict of interest itself.
It simply has no place in this discussion.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and Capehart's partner is part of Hillary's team, that last item makes the hit piece bad optics, as I said his orentation is a detail not the focus
Fearless
(18,421 posts)That's the blasted point. It makes absolutely no difference to the story.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Third Wayers are *extremely* concerned about LGBT issues.
When they can use them as a club to beat people with. The rest of the time, not so much.
QC
(26,371 posts)like anyone else's.
He's pissed off about the daisychain nature of the establishment on display in this story.
Thanks, though.
Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)I'm a gay man glad this fraud is being exposed.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)Of course speaking for us is a big habit for Hillary supporters.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)You can always tell when the Clintons are in town.
Botany
(70,516 posts)Somebody went into the University of Chicago archives and changed Bernie's name,
John Lewis tried to say that Bernie had nothing to do w/the civil rights movement,
Jonathan Capehart pushed the meme, and both Time and CNN tried to sell this
bullshit.
This was orchestrated and carried out by many people at many different levels
so my guess is this was the work of "creative response concepts," of Arlington,
VA because they were the ones behind the swift boat lies and Sam Alito's wife
running in tears because the Dems were so mean to her husband in his SCOTUS's
confirmation hearings (Gloria Borger then of CBS helped to carry the water and
push that lie).
And the next question is if and how was "team clinton" connected to this smear
campaign?
jalan48
(13,870 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)In-fucking-FINITY!
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)They always leave a slime trail when they do something this obvious.
Botany
(70,516 posts)Too many things happened at too many levels and with "good timing" that this
was no accident.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)If experience has taught her anything, it's to maintain some level of plausible deniability. Since the MSM is giving her passes on just about everything, it will be up to alternative media to connect the dots. Kudos to cali for her role in finding out about this matter.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)On Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:54 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
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Botany
(70,516 posts)Please show me where anything I posted was wrong.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)of DU'ers scouring the net as we tried to find who was responsible for Kerry's Swiftboating. Don't know if "Creative Response Concepts" is still in business or if they are now folded into David Brock's new media enterprises. Doesn't matter, though, because the dirty trick strategy is pretty much the same.
so my guess is this was the work of "creative response concepts," of Arlington,
VA because they were the ones behind the swift boat lies and Sam Alito's wife
running in tears because the Dems were so mean to her husband in his SCOTUS's
confirmation hearings (Gloria Borger then of CBS helped to carry the water and
push that lie).
Matariki
(18,775 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)now that brings back some pain
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)It would be great if someone would get to the bottom of what inspired this.
Don't know much about Sally Cook, or about Randy Ross. They (Cook actually did it) appear to be the main people behind getting the photo credit changed to Rappaport. Getting it changed to Rappaport when it is in fact Bernie is, in my mind, extremely odd, definitely doesn't pass the smell test of usual things you'd expect if nothing untowards was going on.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511223587#post67
Education
University of Michigan Law School
Juris Doctor (J.D.)
1972
The University of Chicago
Bachelor's Degree, Psychology
1961 1966
Experience
retired
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sally-cook-5132b5a0?authType=name&authToken=jPpx
http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/46201-in-sally-cook-4394074.html
Sally Ann Cook
Indianapolis, IN
Licensed for 43 years
961 Woodruff Place East Dr
Indianapolis, IN, 46201-1925
Office (317) 423-9727(fax number)
Admitted to practice in State / Court
Date
Indiana 1972
https://www.lawyer.com/sally-ann-cook.html
Botany
(70,516 posts)thanx for posting. Now why would a lawyer be planting false evidence and
who is paying her?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)The "journalist", I mean BLOGGER.... Who can take this guy seriously again?
Hey, Jon.... my advice is, "don't shit where you eat"!
Faux pas
(14,681 posts)Thanks for posting this Matariki!
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)you'd understand 'conflict of interests' on the part of a journalist doing a hit piece just fine.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)going after Carville/Matalin, Brown/Senor, Greenspan/Mitchell, etc. for bias and conflict of interest.
Wag it elsewhere.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)And just for good measure...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethics_and_standards
Matariki
(18,775 posts)When it's not inconvenient.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)But, really, so what?
Matariki
(18,775 posts)If Capehart just admitted he made a mistake and retracted his article about the photo of Sanders, I wouldn't have thought twice about it. I thought the whole photo thing was a dumb distraction. But after clear proof was shown, when any sensible person would drop it, the guy is doubling down. I no longer think his article was an innocent mistake, but agree with others that he was participating in an attempt to 'swiftboat' Sanders.
So yeah, the fact that his husband/partner is employed by Clinton matters.
valerief
(53,235 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)It was the real take-away from the "Bernie stole info from Clinton's server" fake, engineered scandal.
DWS
and of course...."HRC 2016" license plates anyone?
It just keeps adding up!
And since Hillary keeps getting compared (by her own supporters!) to Powell, Rice, and even Dubya himself.... let's not forget the nepotism of FL in 2000.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)You ain't going to make it with anyone anyway
geologic
(205 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)of Bernie's campaign manager's to clarify and he didn't know for sure if it was Bernie, which is what gave it credence and moved the story forward. All the conspiracies don't mention the ex-wife and roommates who started questioning who was in the picture, just another alum who also questioned it.
They even said it wasnt a big story on the Matthews show where Capehart appeared with Tad Devine of Bernie's campaign. Tad Devine sounded flippant and cagey. Bill deBlassio was on that segment and smiled at Tad's flippancy.
Chris Matthews' comments were that it wasn't a big deal, but authenticity was important. If the other side did it, the Sanders people would be all over it. So true.
I recognize most of those people harassing him on Twitter from here. And now I see why Thom Hartmann is stuck on Russian TV.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Seriously, cool your jets already. There are many better ways to express objections.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Mentioning the FACT that his partner works for Clinton is "character assassination"?
Merryland
(1,134 posts)calling a journalist out for conflict of interest and exposing a really creepy anti-Sanders plot is more like truth-telling. The only character assassination was done by Capehart.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)You have it all backwards somehow, not surprising.
senz
(11,945 posts)Love how Clinton supporters try to deny it.
"Move on, nothing to see here."
Uh-huh.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Doesn't sound like a progressive preoccupation, just sayin...
AzDar
(14,023 posts)correct/retract/clarify. He is tripling down on the bullshit and his absolute abdication of objectivity...
Matariki
(18,775 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)to call him on his breach of ethics are now exchanged like badges of honor.
The WAPO page is now giving it to him with both barrels.
DamnYankeeInHouston
(1,365 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)You never know...
CommonSenseDemocrat
(377 posts)Sickening
Response to CommonSenseDemocrat (Reply #153)
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)long time female Clinton aide and started smearing her opposition.
'Gay' doesn't even matter.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Response to Matariki (Original post)
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Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Who the fuck cares who people fuck. What stays in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom. We are not Republicans.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Is it untrue? No. Is it something to be ashamed of and therefor kept secret? I would think you'd also say 'no' to that. So how is this "character assassination?
I understand that it's an inconvenient truth for Clinton supporters, but would nonetheless like to hear your justification for calling a statement of fact "character assassination".
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)THAT is what this OP is about.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And he's allowed to be in a relationship with someone who worked for her.
None of that means the Hillary campaign was behind his actions.
It just means that he supports Hillary and decided to go after Bernie.
I understand attacking this person for his article, but I don't understand the leap to claiming that the Clinton campaign is responsible.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)ESPECIALLY when he's telling LIES.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He has done nothing to hide this from anyone.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)His lying was reprehensible and deserves to be condemned.
I am just saying that it isn't fair to hold the Hillary Clinton campaign responsible for his actions.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)At this point I have to assume he's acting out of his own enthusiasm and biases.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)However, it seems that some folks here believe otherwise.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)I must be concerned and disapprove of what two people do in privacy? It's my business because...? The world is ending why...?
This is far more pathetic than that picture stuff.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)I'm certain you are quite clear that this isn't about who he sleeps with or what his sexual orientation is.
But please, do go on...
Gman
(24,780 posts)Then how do you explain James Carville and Mary Matalin.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Which I'm sure you realize
840high
(17,196 posts)shady connected to the Hillary campaign.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)they could do a lot worse than look at this thread. Why not demand all presidential candidates and their associates have endoscopies, so you can all stare at it to your heart's content. Let's face it, it's a lot easier than talking about the actual issues. No wonder Putin's running riot in Ukraine and the ME if this is what you're all obsessing with.
Leader of the free world? You're having a laugh.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)At the time she was nominated, her (heterosexual) husband was employed by BP. That wasn't the major reason to oppose Palin but it was mentioned.
My thanks to the LGBT people who've posted to refute the "homophobia" smear.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)That any journalist or individual who dares to write or say anything that questions Sanders in anyway will find their private life broadcasted as punishment for dissent?
And this was about something as minor as a photo. Imagine if anyone dared to object to a policy position or executive action?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and this is not about Sanders, but a code of ethics.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)You're probably saying "Wow!"
You see, there used to this common practice wherein the person delivering information said something to the effect of "In the interest of full disclosure..." and went on to detail their behind the scenes involvement in whatever it was they were reporting on. What's more, good editors and producers pulled anyone with even the slightest conflict of interest from those very stories.
I know it sounds like science fiction to you, but honest to goodness - journalistic objectivity was once part of every day life in this country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalistic_objectivity
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Twitter harassers from this website actually said that Capehart was trolling *them* on Twitter. She actually said that in a thread here. That's the level of irrationality.
No wonder he blocked them.
Ino
(3,366 posts)Thom Hartmann tweeted "When you clean this up, please let us know who fed you that "story" to begin with"
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and to be fair, he did it himself. Many of those folks, (including me) were blocked by him.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)I find it astonishing how quick her supporters are to defend a clear and blatant breach of journalistic integrity.
You can't defend a journalist failing to declare a conflict of interest. You just can't. Not unless you want to also defend an assault on journalistic principles and standards.