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So Bill Clinton vacations with Bush and Hillary with Kissinger (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 OP
Meanwhile, what's Bernie doing about paid vacation time?... Donkees Feb 2016 #1
So what's the last picture? Agschmid Feb 2016 #2
There's a link right under that picture of Kissinger and Hillary. Autumn Feb 2016 #3
Yeah I see that. I thought this was pictures of vacations? Agschmid Feb 2016 #9
Yes it was an event. It doesn't look like they took photographers along on their vaycays. nt Autumn Feb 2016 #10
Got it. Agschmid Feb 2016 #12
Hillary and Henry, up a tree... hootinholler Feb 2016 #13
K-I-S-S-I-N-GER PonyUp Feb 2016 #29
you sir/madam are a poet AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #31
Nice Piece of Poetry! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #33
the second picture isn't a vacation dsc Feb 2016 #4
He still buddy ups with a war criminal Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #8
You got that right... should tell you EVERYTHING you need to know. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #30
George fucking Wallace SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #5
Yeah, how about that eh? nt haikugal Feb 2016 #34
recommended H2O Man Feb 2016 #6
The Annual Clinton-Kissinger Vacation Motto: What Happens in Punta Cana Stays in Punta Cana Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #7
As vile as Henry Kissinger was ... cosmicone Feb 2016 #11
Not Good Enough Bernie! Fumesucker Feb 2016 #14
As Wm. Pfaff, author of Condemned to Freedom wrote EndElectoral Feb 2016 #16
Thank you and Well Said! 2banon Feb 2016 #24
So vacations with psychopaths and war criminals Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #18
I go on vacation with a lot of people cosmicone Feb 2016 #19
That's quite the spin you put on this Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #20
It IS a learning experience to know from someone's experience cosmicone Feb 2016 #21
A Kissinger apologist Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #22
Meh n/t cosmicone Feb 2016 #23
The Kissinger pix makes me want to gag EndElectoral Feb 2016 #15
Me too. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #17
George Carlin: "It's a big club and you ain't in it" (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #25
You should remove the 2nd photo Beaverhausen Feb 2016 #26
He spent the night........... Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #27
Bill Clinton sitting at the same table with George Wallace. Says a lot don't it? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #28
Well the war on drugs and Arkansas had to be discussed Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #32

Donkees

(31,416 posts)
1. Meanwhile, what's Bernie doing about paid vacation time?...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:03 AM
Feb 2016

What’s Bernie doing about paid vacation time?

Bernie introduced a bill of his own in June 2015 called the Guaranteed Paid Vacation Act, which would provide 10 days of paid time off to anyone who’s worked for over a year at a business that employs at least 15 people.


http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-workers-rights/#paid-family-and-sick-leave-plus-vacation

dsc

(52,162 posts)
4. the second picture isn't a vacation
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:17 AM
Feb 2016

something that even a cursory knowledge of history or God forbid a google search would have told you. It was a meeting of the national governor's association which Clinton was attending as governor but don't dare let facts get in the way of a good smear.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
7. The Annual Clinton-Kissinger Vacation Motto: What Happens in Punta Cana Stays in Punta Cana
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:19 AM
Feb 2016

As the link I gave you under the picture said.




Sorry photos of their vacation together at the his vacation home in the Domincan Republic will be released as soon as her Bankster transcrips are

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
11. As vile as Henry Kissinger was ...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:43 AM
Feb 2016

he remains a foremost authority on geopolitical dynamics and how the chess game is played in national interest.

I think his Chilean and Central American and Southern European endeavors were despicable but don't forget that he was the architect of "detente."

Detente created stability and fear of a nuclear holocaust was made non-existent. The whole world was able to breathe easily because of detente.

One can seek advice from such authorities whether one agrees with them or not. In "silence of the lambs", Hannibal Lecter helped the FBI catch a murderer.

I prefer to not see people as either/or ... we all have made colossal mistakes in some areas while we have excelled in other areas. No one should be judged solely on the basis of the mistakes or solely on the basis of successes.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
16. As Wm. Pfaff, author of Condemned to Freedom wrote
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:23 PM
Feb 2016
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1979/11/25/page/24/article/kissinger-a-success-story-thats-made-up-of-disasters

"The actual Kissinger policy, to abandon South Vietnam to its enemies could have been carried out four years earlier with Camboida still intact, and with something like a million people alive, including some 20,000 Americans, who were dead when Kissinger and Nixon finally left office. The result for Viet Nam, Cambodia and Laos could not possibly have been worse than what actually happened."

It is indefensible to defend this man.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
18. So vacations with psychopaths and war criminals
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:37 PM
Feb 2016

is OK now?

I guess the Berghof would be a great place for a get together.




''It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

If we can really understand the problem, the answer will come out of it, because the answer is not separate from the problem.''


Jiddu Krishnamurti

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
19. I go on vacation with a lot of people
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:49 PM
Feb 2016

and I don't agree with many of them, some not at all.

Meeting many people is a learning exercise -- what worked and what didn't.

Guilt by association is not ok. Especially on a democratic board. Just because Kissinger bombed Cambodia doesn't mean he NOW thinks it was a good idea and definitely doesn't mean that Hillary thinks that was a good idea.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
21. It IS a learning experience to know from someone's experience
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:25 PM
Feb 2016

that carpet bombing of a country does not work. Is it not a learning experience to know and understand the limits of American power and the disastrous consequences?

There is no spin. Any university in the world would hire Kissinger as a professor in a heartbeat. He has a LOT to teach.

You can vilify him for political purposes because it suits Bernie's narrative but Kissinger is a gray character -- not entirely vile. He has a lot to teach.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
26. You should remove the 2nd photo
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:19 PM
Feb 2016

It's been pointed out to you that is a photo of a gathering of governors, not a vacation.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
28. Bill Clinton sitting at the same table with George Wallace. Says a lot don't it?
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:23 PM
Feb 2016

"A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee..."

Explains a lot as well.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
32. Well the war on drugs and Arkansas had to be discussed
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:48 PM
Feb 2016

With all the cocaine coming into that state flown in by the CIA.

Iran/Contra was about the CIA cocaine trade too and guess who was running that operation? It wasn't Reagan it was Bush


VP GHW Bush was in charge of this activity when Clinton went to Maine in this 1983 picture.

See CIA/DIA deep-cover agent "Chip" Tatum

Also the story of the 1986 Murder of CIA Drug Smuggler Barry Seal

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