2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton’s 2016 Playbook Against Bernie Sanders Is a Lot Like Her 2008
--Playbook Against Obama
http://inthesetimes.com/article/18834/hillary-clinton-campaign-bernie-sanders-president-obama-attacks
Obama and Sanders have both also faced accusations that they are more style than substance. This other guys madder than she is, and that feels authentic, Bill Clinton recently said about Sanders. And besides, his slogans are easier to say. Vox's Matthew Yglesias has similarly charged that Sanders Wall Street plan is a slogan and has challenged the senator to move past mere rhetoric and offer concrete, detailed policy proposals.
Candidate Obama, now a hallowed progressive icon brought up by Clinton during the primary fight, faced a barrage of identical attacks back in 2008. Obama had hypnotized the media with a shallow campaign slogan and his policies lacked specifics, pundits said. There's a big difference between us speeches versus solutions, talk versus action, Clinton said in 2008.
Speeches don't put food on the table. Speeches don't fill up your tank or fill your prescription or do anything about that stack of bills that keeps you up at night.
Sanders has also been called unelectable by Clinton and her supporters for his embrace of the label socialist, warning that a Sanders nomination would be a huge gift to the GOP. Its a line of attack that candidate Obama also had to withstand eight years ago.
Fears about Obamas electability (which some at the time viewed as a coded reference to race) were the cornerstone of Clintons campaign. Ive seen a lot of elections come and go and whoever our Democratic nominee is will be subjected to the full force and effect of the Republican attack machine, Clinton cautioned in 2007.
Perhaps the most contentious attacks faced by both campaigns have been allegations of sexism and other criticisms of the candidates respective supporters. In the 2016 campaign, this has taken the form of the alleged Bernie Bro phenomenon, the army of fanatical, intolerant and/or misogynistic young, male Sanders supporters who harass anyone daring to express a pro-Clinton sentiment online.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)You have to admit one thing...if there is one thing Hillary knows about, it's speeches.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,378 posts)Response to eridani (Original post)
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tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)She loves Obama and Bernie hates Obama
localroger
(3,629 posts)...was treating the primary as if it is winner-take-all by state, and that appears to be a mistake she's making again. There is no such thing as a "firewall" of any sort when the result is proportional. It makes not a whit of difference who won Ohio by 4 votes, and anybody who thinks it does matter can safely be ignored in the future. What matters is the delegate count, and you can take delegates home from red states and states that are mostly solid for the other Dem. Obama knew that and worked it. Sanders knows that and is working it. Clinton, even though she supposedly hired a lot of Obama's strategists, doesn't seem to know that and keeps acting like a sweep of won states means something without considering the margin by which she wins them.
eridani
(51,907 posts)So I guess it's possible to learn things after all.