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d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:09 AM Feb 2016

CNN's Tom Foreman just said Marco Rubio's 80 year appointment claim is mostly true

According to the CNN "reality check":

During an opening round of questions that focused on the passing of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and his successor's potential effect on the political landscape leading up to the 2016 election, Rubio said "It's been over 80 years since a lame duck president has appointed a Supreme Court justice."

The definition of what makes a president a "lame duck" varies, but it is generally considered to be a president who is in the final period of their term and is not eligible to run for re-election.

Rubio is right that no president who fits a narrow description of a "lame duck" has appointed a justice to the Supreme Court in the past 80 years. However, President Ronald Reagan nominated Anthony Kennedy on Nov 30, 1987, and he was confirmed on Feb 3, 1988 -- the last two years of Reagan's final term. Whether that constitutes as "lame duck" is up for debate.


Their "fact check" is based on the term "Lame Duck", which according to them has no set definition. In turn this makes his definition mostly true. Check out the CNN's bullshit reality check here.

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CNN's Tom Foreman just said Marco Rubio's 80 year appointment claim is mostly true (Original Post) d_legendary1 Feb 2016 OP
but when was the last time... dchill Feb 2016 #1
2004 nt Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #3
The year 2004 comes to mind d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #4
Well, yes, if you believe Bush actually WON... dchill Feb 2016 #7
According to our gutless Dems at the time d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #8
Lame brain. JudyM Feb 2016 #6
I rate the statement true, stupid, and irrelevant. Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #2
They definitely don't want to mention 1916 jfern Feb 2016 #5
I thought that was weird Yupster Feb 2016 #9
Iran-Contra had already taken away Reagan's credibility, and he was starting to show the signs muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #10

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
8. According to our gutless Dems at the time
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:25 AM
Feb 2016

It was legit. No investigations, no hearing, NADA! Hence, he "won".

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. I rate the statement true, stupid, and irrelevant.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:17 AM
Feb 2016

This country has been around more than 80 years. Why stop at 80? Why not 210?

Because just like in Global warming, you can make your point if you choose the time window Juuust right.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
5. They definitely don't want to mention 1916
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:22 AM
Feb 2016

Hughes was a member of the Supreme Court who got the Republcan nomination. He stepped down in July, and his successor was prompted nominated and confirmed by his general election opponent, the sitting President Wilson.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
9. I thought that was weird
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:00 AM
Feb 2016

To me a lame duck president is the period of time from the election to the inauguration.

In other words after the replacement has been chosen and is waiting to take office.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
10. Iran-Contra had already taken away Reagan's credibility, and he was starting to show the signs
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 08:15 AM
Feb 2016

of dementia by then. Few presidents have ever been as much of a 'lame duck' as he was by then.

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