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Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
1. The argument they'll make is that the challenge lead to the Carter loss. Lesson learned. I say
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:38 AM
Feb 2016

bullshit to that.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
10. I remember being astounded that
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:57 AM
Feb 2016

Ted Kennedy for President offices still remained open LONG after the convention was over. That seems like the definition of sabotaging one's own party and ensuring victory for the other side.

elleng

(130,971 posts)
3. There were LOTS of complaints about that at the time,
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:41 AM
Feb 2016

as you might imagine (in case you weren't around at the time.) And many blamed him (and likely still do) for the result = reagan. Democrat/Not-Democrat was not among the complaints.

elleng

(130,971 posts)
8. which was, presumably what he thought,
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:54 AM
Feb 2016

notwithstanding existence of an incumbent potus. I recall thoughts at the time: 'It's his time.'

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
12. ....Heeeere's Ronnie!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:01 AM
Feb 2016

Ted Kennedy was a great man, but this was a monumental mistake. We got Ronald Reagan because of that.

Only idiots call for a sitting Democratic president to be primaries by another Democrat. Teddy never did that again, but too damn bad for the country that he did it at all.

TheBlackAdder

(28,208 posts)
14. We DID NOT get Reagan because of Ted Kennedy's challenge. The rise of the Moral Majority!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:13 AM
Feb 2016

.


When Phyllis Schlafly's Stop-ERA movent successfully stalled the ratification of the ERA, there was a national Christian movement afoot that was completely structured and ready for mobilization in 1980 to usher in Ronald Reagan. The MM remained powerful for about a decade afterwards.


The rise of the Anti-Abortion movement also found support within this group and it created a powerful juggernaut. 45% of the people who were against the ERA were women, as most were from evangelical quarters.

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Fearless

(18,421 posts)
13. He ended up giving the key note address at the DNC that year...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:04 AM
Feb 2016

It is, in my not so humble opinions, one of the most accurate and poignant speeches of a generation.



Listen it to and I dare you to tell me that he wasn't what a democrat was supposed to be.
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