2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTeam Bernie calling on GOP supporters to register as Democrats for NV Caucus?
https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/698654987610562560TheBlackAdder
(28,208 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)mucifer
(23,549 posts)There are many fed up republicans voting for Bernie.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)Sneaky, slimy, low down dirty tricks.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Trying to get GOP voters to vote Democratic is 'Sneaky, slimy, low down dirty tricks'?
840high
(17,196 posts)liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)together again. Given that he doesn't compromise shit when he encourages them, the pearl clutchers need to relax.
liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Wow, that's a truckload of drama, there.
I just explained in a post that I spent three months canvassing and calling for Bernie. Part of my strategy--and the other volunteers as well, was to go after Republicans.
We didn't avoid canvassing/calling them--because we were finding support from Republicans and Republican-leaning Independents in Iowa.
This is how you win elections. It's called cross-over appeal.
I'm not understanding the need to turn a non-issue into some kind of nefarious behavior.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I'm sure there will be a flood of Democrats changing their party registration if Hillary is nominated.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Why would anyone have a problem with trying to bring them out of the dark side?
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)I read that as asking the voter if they actually support the rubes in the clown car, and if not, to consider SBS.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)What the hell...
stone space
(6,498 posts)Not sure how it works in Nevada.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)But I saw a chart showing an insane number of new registrations in advance, for both parties. I think the Nevada caucuses are going to be a clusterfuck, I doubt they're prepared for what's about to hit them.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Because they're options are pretty sad.
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)she had Republicans that would vote for her in the GE you trying to tell us she wouldn't do the same?
Don't even try it.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)Hopefully he is not convincing more people to become Democrats? I'd never hire you as an organizer. You don't even make sense.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Words out that Hillary is calling Republicans trying to convince them to change their party allegiance - become a Democrat - and caucus for her.
How do you think Bernie supporters here at DU would respond to that?
"That's a great idea that Hillary's got. Expanding the party."
"It might just work."
No, I'd wager that in a consensus unison with scores of posts:
"She's desperate, so desperate that she going after Republicans for geez sake!" "That's hilarious!"
"For sure, she knows she's going to lose!"
Right?
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)and questioning the motives of other DUers because you *think* that's what they would say to you? Solid argument.
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)And you know what, if Hillary gets the nomination I hope to God some Republicans voter for her. Hell, if they want to caucus for her so they can vote for her in November I say "LETS' DO THIS".
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)First of all, it's not going to work. No bonafide Republican in his or her mind would go caucus for a Democratic socialist. Second, calling Republicans in this way seems like desperation. It's something that I'd wager many Bernie supporters would say that it's something that Clinton would do.
If Bernie's revolution would occur, it will take Republicans to join. But it won't happen. Why? Gallup polled Americans with the question: what characteristic in a candidate would make you not vote for that candidate? Fifty percent - 50% - said being a socialist.
That in part is why Bernie's move, if true, is so weird. Perhaps the campaign has becomes so enraptured with their NH victory that they actually believe that they can convert Republicans. And on that count too, weird.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)supporters who are protesting have actually never worked on a campaign.
I volunteer for every 2 year election cycle. And every 2 years I call republicans to advance whatever campaign I am working on.
Do you know that Kansas used to be a remarkable state of progress. Really, a hot bed of progressive politics. And then it became a state dominated by right wing reactionaries. This did not happen by mistake, it happened by design.
I am glad the Bernie campaign is not leaving the outcome by mistake but taking charge of his political revolution by design.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Obama is not a socialist. Converting a bonafide Republican to become a socialist is quite a task.
But who knows. This election year has been full of surprises. I just don't think that Republican conversions will be one of them.
Thanks for not flaming me!
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)We have been converting them. Quite easily, in fact, with facts.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Have you ever done phone call outreach for a campaign? You call everyone. Everyone.
If the Hillary campaign says they are not calling Republicans then they running an ignorant campaign.
Reagan, one of the most vile presidents won from syphoning off Democratic voters.
Glamrock
(11,802 posts)Respectfully, that isn't the reality on the ground. I know and have helped convince bona-fide republicans to vote for Bernie. Bona-fide Republicans voted for Obama too, if you remember.
As far as people who won't vote for a socialist? His policies poll at better than 50% in numerous polls. The socialist bogeyman doesn't work with millenials and a large minority of Gen Xer's. More and more people are waking up to the fact that they are democratic socialists.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Because it draws in independents and moderate Republicans. The fact that Team Hill is admitting they aren't even trying to do that is really telling.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Unless you think poor white working class people are only to be shunned.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Nanjeanne
(4,960 posts)She don't need no stinkin' Independents or Republicans.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)They can't stand the current clown car of Republicans and they don't like the idea of political family dynasties. They don't agree with a good deal of Sanders economic plans, but they think he's the best in the bunch between both parties. I don't imagine they are alone in this.
I don't see a problem
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Can't imagine they are actually doing this, but if they are and there is proof, Bernie counting on Republicans to win Nevada is bad news. Hope he isn't. The Republicans are throwing enough dirt for both parties.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)You know those things where candidates try to win over as many votes as possible?
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)After all, it's the World Series.
Absurd and ridiculous.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)What a brilliant idea. Not.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)If it weren't so absurd.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)There are a number of Republicans who have said that Bernie is their second choice candidate after Trump. Think about it. It's the calling out of the plutocracy that is common to both candidates and attracting people of all political backgrounds.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)The AUDACITY of a candidate trying to get people to vote for him!
OUTRAGEOUS!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....
Armstead
(47,803 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)If Sanders is out there begging the GOP to switch and vote for him that must mean that Clinton is doing great with already registered Democrats.
Republicans should not be deciding a Democratic caucus or primary, period.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)H2O Man
(73,559 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)demosocialist
(184 posts)Neil Levesque, executive director of the New Hampshire Institute of Politics at Saint Anselm College, said: I talk to many people whose first choice is Trump and second choice is Sanders, even though theyre diametrically opposed. People feel Trump is saying what they think, and if you asked supporters of Sanders, one word they would use is authenticity. A lot of this is the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street. Those were the seeds and now the grass is growing.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/23/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-lead-two-headed-insurgency-against-establishment
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Appeal to republicans with a carrot of a weaker and less qualified candidate so any clown in the clown car can easily win.
As long as Bernie gets his ego stroked with a win against Hillary everything is ok.
Appealing to voters from the other side is ok in the GE but in a primary, it is poison.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Go, Hillary! We love you!
frylock
(34,825 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I canvassed and made phone calls in Iowa for Bernie, for a few months.
I called Republicans and tried to convince them to support Bernie. Some of them did.
When I knocked on doors, I found Republicans who really liked Bernie. I heard this repeatedly from Republicans who were disturbed by the current crop of GOP candidates. They liked Bernie because he was honest and because of his commitment to income inequality and campaign-finance reform.
One of the Bernie volunteers from Seattle, who stayed with us for a week while he worked for Bernie in Iowa--was a former Republican, Rand Paul supporter.
Bernie appeals to Republicans, Independents and Democrats.
Nothing wrong with this. This is what we Democrats should hope for; a candidate with broad, cross-over appeal. Nevada has same-day registration, so it makes sense that if a campaigner stumbles upon a Republican, they may try to sell him on Bernie. Many, like myself, didn't find it to be that much of a stretch, because some Republicans do like Bernie.
Nothing nefarious about this.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)influence in DC.
You often hear of Reagan Democrats?
Start getting used to the term Bernie Republicans.
shawn703
(2,702 posts)Especially when the Republicans are running a bunch of clowns.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)thought all the republican candidates were idiots.