Anyone want a Republican debate thread? (PART 1)

[TCJ70]

Might as well keep up with the opposition. So far there's a lot of focus on military actions in the world. I'm keeping track of their position statements for posting later. So far, some of the stuff I've got is a little nuts.

[Sedona]

1. I'm always up for watching the GOP circular firing squad

[fun n serious]

8. Lol Me too nt

[elleng]

2. OK.

I'll start by inserting my earlier post re: first question:

First question, re: Scalia:

Trump # 1. Up to mcconnell to delay nomination.

Kasich: Wish POTUS would not nominate.

Carson: Create healing; won't get it with Potus Obama.

Rubio: POTUS should not appoint. Originalist.

Bush: No litmus test on specific issues, but believes in limited government. POTUS has the right to appoint, and needs a concencus but there won't be one.

Cruz: Precedent to not confirm in nomination year. Senate should 'stand firm' against. OH FFS, then he campaigns for himself.

[TCJ70]

4. Carson didn't even seem to understand how the constitution works...

...in regards to appointments.

[Dretownblues]

11. I'm not sure Carson knows what the Presidents Job is

[Lucinda]

46. Bush at least seems to understand the process here

and I agree that they will likely drag out the process

[elleng]

49. Yes, he surely understands the process,

in most governmental things.

[H2O Man]

3. Sure! Recommended.

Ted Cruz made an error in his comment on Abe Fortas -- unless I heard him wrong.

[Punkingal]

5. Trump went after W on 9/11. Said it happened on his watch...he didn't keep us safe.

I loved it...the audience didn't.

[elleng]

6. crz taxes,

flat tax after first 36.

[Dretownblues]

16. And on a post card.

If im not mistaken he said he would cut like 5 different types of taxes and have people mail in their tax retuns on a post card.

[elleng]

17. Right, his big selling point!

[elleng]

7. kasich v jeb on medicaid etc.

and what happened in their states.

Ohioans want to speak to this???

[potone]

9. Could someone tell me how to view it online?

Thanks!

[TCJ70]

10. Yep...

... www.cbsnews.com

[potone]

15. Thank you!

[Purveyor]

12. I'm telling you that if Kasich gets the GOP nomination,

we've got a problem...

[TCJ70]

13. He does have that reasonable...

...look and sound down to a T.

[msanthrope]

73. Um, yeah. A Bernie/Kasich match is a 50 state Mondale blowout.....nt

[Duckhunter935]

14. Trump red and yelling

Then calmed down after break for his meds

[elleng]

18. cruz v rubio on immigration

[H2O Man]

19. Cruz vs Rubio

funny stuff!

[Zorro]

20. Rubio and Cruz slapping each other now

calling each other liar...

What an embarrassment to this country.

[H2O Man]

21. And now Trump

attacks Bush.

[Zorro]

24. Trump said Jeb! said two days ago he'd pull his pants down and moon everybody?

Sheesh...

[H2O Man]

26. He did.

Bush said that.

[Wig Master]

22. It's sort of delightful watching Trump bully Jeb

[elleng]

23. Kasich wants substantive discussion, imagine that!

[flamingdem]

31. But the audience doesn't cheer wildly since he's a bore!

[elleng]

34. Right, plans and experience are so boring,

like these: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12813600

Been there, Done that.

[flamingdem]

36. Yes, sad that it's much worse with Republicans

but the irony of someone with no experience being the one who tells the truth about Bushie.

[Duckhunter935]

25. our debates so much better than this joke

[Dretownblues]

27. Ben Carson begging everyone to go to his website

[elleng]

28. Right, and just get rid of 'the regulations!'

[Dretownblues]

35. They should ask him to be specific about regulations

he wants to eliminate. I feel like his campaign told him to say get rid of regulations, without giving him any specifics.

[elleng]

37. Certainly. It's a successful buzz-word,

and NO ONE understands.

[OrwellwasRight]

29. Getting rid of regulations will get rid of poverty?

WHAT?!?!

I'm not even sure Cato Institute would agree with that.

[Zorro]

30. Did not even answer the question

[OrwellwasRight]

32. Trump is going to get votes on his trade argument.

As much as the Republican Establishment hates it, the voters get it.

[tokenlib]

43. Trump was good on the Carrier air conditioner story.

N/t

[TCJ70]

33. Cruz on poverty...

...no policy specifics given.

[elleng]

38. trump v cruz again, liar liar liar!!!

[steve2470]

39. wow Trump calling out Cruz out on lies love it!!!! nt

[H2O Man]

40. Trump calls Cruz

the worst liar and cheat on the stage.

[silenttigersong]

41. Does Jeb realize

That many countries consider his brother a war criminal?I cannot believe the egos of the Bush's.

[Gregorian]

42. Just unfortunate enough to have tuned in. This is fun.

[H2O Man]

44. It's a giggle.

[Gregorian]

48. I just got the Rubio-bot thing. He is rather mechanical and hyperactive.

[Gregorian]

45. Cruz is whining about how liberal trump is? Cuck coo...

[Dretownblues]

47. looks like Marco got a much needed software update

[OrwellwasRight]

50. These idiots don't even understand welfare.

Hey Rubio: States are ALREADY in charge of it. They always have been. That's why it is stingy in TX and more generous in CA. Hello!

Hey Cruz: It is already time limited. 5 years max. Clinton did that. Hello!

[Gregorian]

51. Is Ben Carson the Rick James of the republican party?

[Dretownblues]

52. "I'm never going to become a Politician"

Even Ben Carson doesn't believe in Ben Carson

[Gregorian]

53. Kasich "We're going to get those blue collar Democrats..."

What's that all about?

[Dretownblues]

55. I think hes trying to make the case he has the best chance in the GE

[msanthrope]

74. He means white men. nt

[JudyM]

54. Kasich making a play for blue dog Dems.

[silenttigersong]

56. Trump

Is going to make money off of this when it's all over.Book sales,ties,speaker fees ,it's an investment win or lose.

[flamingdem]

61. It's good someone is attacking Jeb, he's got too many buddies in

that audience, and in that state. I'd rather have Trump than Jeb (holding my nose that is).

[silenttigersong]

67. Thats been the best part of the debate n/t

[Liberal Jesus Freak]

57. I have never seen anything like this in my life.

Hubby and I are rolling...and frightened. It's hilarious and scary all at once. Excuse me while I

[flamingdem]

58. Trump is going to order a hit on Jeb!

Or vice versa, we'll see who has more "connections"!

[elleng]

59. REALLY something else!

[Gregorian]

66. Enjoy it. I find it takes a bigger dose the second time.

This is my second. It's like getting used to spiders.

[Gregorian]

60. Trump is overbearing AND rich.

[Dretownblues]

62. With all the stupid shit

Cruz and Trump say how are they going to Pivot back towards the center during the GE?

[H2O Man]

63. Jeb is attempting

to fight backagainst Trump. He still comes off as Mr. Potato-Head.

[TCJ70]

64. Rubio: Obama is the worst president in 35 years...

...yeah, OK.

[silenttigersong]

70. Carrying water for the Bush's n/t

[Armstead]

65. I think the Trumpster may be overplaying his hand

He's going overboard with the bully act, and looks juvenile.

But every time he seems to screw up he gets more popular, so who knows.

[Gregorian]

68. There's rich, and there's "I can have you all put in the dungeon" rich.

I think people aren't sure whether or not he actually owns them.

[elleng]

69. Really depends on extent to which electorate will stand for it,

and as you say, who knows???

[silenttigersong]

71. He knows how to get media attention n/t

[Gregorian]

72. Kasich- I'm the president with Jesus as my copilot.

[Lucinda]

80. I thought that was Cruz? Maybe they can arm wrestle for it?

[grossproffit]

75. Ben Carson could replace Ambien.

[JudyM]

76. Carson quotes Stalin favorably in his closing statement.

[Wig Master]

93. Total bullshit quote, too

[Gregorian]

77. Each one of these guys has a sliver of truth.

One cares about elections, another does care about the climate. But not one of them has enough to make them safe in the Oval Office.

[Dretownblues]

81. except Cruz and Trump, They are just morons

[redwitch]

78. I want to slap Marco Rubio.

Cruz? Him I want to punch repeatedly.

[Gregorian]

79. Cruz is ruthless, and enthusiastic about it.

He might be closer to a Nazi than a Christian. I don't know.

[Gregorian]

82. Trump is about winning and profit. Anything in his way is flattened.

I don't know what threat he would pose to the country.

NOw that I think of it, he'd sell stuff off. White House for a week, $50 million.

[DefenseLawyer]

83. Here's a quick snapshot

[elleng]

85. Yup

[Skwmom]

84. My God is the Democratic Establishment clueless.

And no I don't want to expound on this comment. n/t

[SamKnause]

90. Clueless and spineless.

I don't think the Republicans that are running for president live

in the same country I live in.


Republican debate script: (War War, war, war, terror, terror, terror, terror. The

Republican party is not responsible for anything that is wrong with the country.

Everything bad happened under Obama's watch. Bush kept us safe. Reagan was a saint.)


I do not know a single person who is afraid in this country.

I know people who are pissed at the government.

I know people who are pissed at inequality.

I know people who are pissed at the government sanctioned illegality of Wall Street.

I know people who are pissed because of the endless wars that are draining our hard

earned tax dollars.

I know people who are pissed with the health care system.

I know people who are pissed because on the constant intrusion of religion.

I know people who are pissed because they think religion is under attack.


I know people with varied opinions in both parties.

Warmongering and terror never comes up in the conversation.

[elljay]

86. Couldn't Find the Debate on TV

But there was a great reality show on CBS- a bunch of guys on a stage lying and insulting each other. Kind of like kids arguing on the playground. Very entertaining, though I was hoping for a bit of MMA, or at least a thrown chair.

[elleng]

88. HAHAHAHA!

[Aerows]

87. Jeb Bush said something

and I was out like a light napping.

[TCJ70]

89. Summary of Policy Statements:

I did the best I could in spite of the fighting and general train-wreckiness of the whole thing...this is by no means comprehensive:

Cruz
***Supreme Court - Wants the Senate to stall government further by blocking the presidents Supreme Court nominee.
***National Security - Believes a nuclear Iran is the greatest national security threat. Would arm Kurds as a ground force against ISIS and supplement our Air Force.
***Taxes - Would significantly reduce taxes and abolish the IRS. Would also implement a 16% across the board on business. Flat tax after $36,000 on individuals.
***Immigration - Would deport undocumented immigrants and children brought her by their parents. Firmly opposes amnesty.
***Poverty - *didn’t really give any particular policies*

Rubio
***Supreme Court - Believes the president should neglect his constitutional duty to nominate Supreme Court justices.
***National Security - Mentioned a ton of countries that we need to increase our presence in. Focused particularly on working against Russia.
***Taxes - Would gear tax policy to be more family friendly.
***Immigration - Deport undocumented immigrants. Build a 700 mile wall. Apparently supports amnesty for those already here. Enforce current law before addressing those here.
***Poverty - Turn anti-poverty programs over to states.
***Other - Thanked God that Bush was in office on 9/11 and claimed he kept us safe. Blamed Clinton for 9/11.

Trump
***Supreme Court - Wants the Senate to stall government further by blocking the presidents Supreme Court nominee.
***National Security - Opposes the Iran deal. Would focus on ISIS with a full military force. Wants to clear up who it is we’re supporting in Syria.
***Social Safety Net - Didn’t answer question on social program funding. Would work to eliminate waste in Social Security.
***Immigration - *Missed his remarks* I imaging it had to do with building a wall and deporting everyone.
***Outsourcing - Would work with congress to prevent outsourcing, probably through taxes and tariffs.
***Other - Denounced the Iraq war. Will maybe work towards not swearing. Claimed he never went bankrupt.

Kasich
***Supreme Court - Wants the Senate to stall government further by blocking the presidents Supreme Court nominee.
***National Security - Would arm Ukraine against Russia. Thinks we should lead the world against ISIS in a coalition against ISIS.
***Healthcare - Defended expanding Medicaid program in his state based on it keeping people off the street and out of medical debt.
***Immigration - Seal the border, supports “Path to Legalization”, not citizenship, based on a fine and back taxes.

Bush
***Supreme Court - Understands the constitution in regards to how the Supreme Court nomination process runs.
***National Security - Sees no future for partnering with Russia against ISIS. Would increase military spending by reversing the sequester. Would also move against Iran.
***Taxes - Believes investment income should be taxed at the same rate as regular income.
***Healthcare - For a full repeal and replace (order not specified) of the Affordable Care Act.
***Immigration - Tighten rules on overstayed VISAs. Supports “Path to Legal Status”, as opposed to citizenship, for those already here.
***Imminent Domain - Supports it for infrastructure.
***Other - Feels he can unite Democrats and Republicans in Congress.

Carson
***Supreme Court - Doesn’t understand that it is the president’s constitutional duty to nominate Supreme Court Justices.
***National Security - Believes we stabilized Iraq. Wants to loosen the rules of engagement for the military.
***Taxes - Never got to the details of his plan in his time to answer.
***Financial Oversight - Supports deregulation of the financial industry.

[Hydra]

92. Thanks for the summary

Sounds like they were all over the place on everything...but then again, we never know what's going to happen in a Republican admin before they're actually in other than the fact that it's going to involve major wars, huge deficits, various crimes against humanity, handouts for the rich and Dems wanting to help them with it all.

[mgmaggiemg]

91. here's my super quick assessment

audience did not like trump's attack on bush
the debate about immigration/path to citizenship between rubio/cruz was messy
I don't think it will work in their favor.....
so I am predicting Trump, Kasich, Bush