We need Bernie's "political revolution" RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

[Cali_Democrat]

It can't wait.

Bernie has been in Congress for 25 years and he promises a revolution when he's elected.

Screw that. We need it right fucking now.

Bernie Sanders is a current member of the Senate. He needs to bring his political revolution to the table and get Obama's SCOTUS nominee confirmed in the Senate.

He needs to demonstrate that this "political revolution" is for real.

Not only will it help Obama and the Democratic Party, but it will help his election prospects.

The time is now, Bernie.

[H2O Man]

1. Come on.

This is far too important an issue to reduce our dignity by being petty.

[beam me up scottie]

2. Oh brother. A preemptive "Not Good Enough Bernie" thread for when Obama's nominee is blocked.

[californiabernin]

3. He can't do that.

The revolution depends on we the people getting out the vote and holding our leaders accountable.

[merrily]

4. Getting things done in the Senate must be very hard. In 8 years, Hillary didn't manage to pass one

substantive bill or amendment that she wrote, not even either one of her two unconstitutional flag burning bills--and she was a "real" Democrat. Sanders did much better. Among other things he founded the Progressive Caucus the very first year he got to the House.

[polly7]

40. Noooooooo .............. Facts!!

[uponit7771]

44. Hillary isn't claiming to be a revolutionary either

[Art_from_Ark]

53. She's not claiming to be a lot of things...

...this week, at least.

[uponit7771]

54. Neither is Sanders, you know... years of consummate Obama bashing is now all gone and he

... can't sing enough praises about Obama?

He's gone from Obama is weak and rightward and gone from having racilized bomb throwers like Bigga and West in his crew to now it's "just some criticisms" ...

Bernie Sanders, despite what his mouth says, can't throw stones

[Art_from_Ark]

56. Obama has been weak

but Bernie didn't say Obama was weak.

"Sanders has critiqued Obama and used those words to describe the feelings of Americans, or to describe Obama’s policies. But Sanders did not specifically call Obama "weak" and "a disappointment."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/12/hillary-clinton/did-bernie-sanders-call-president-barack-obama-wea/

[uponit7771]

62. Doesn't make a difference, either critique is uncalled for and overtly critical. Overall Obama has..

... done great with the 2nd most historically gerrymandered GOP congress in US history.

Looking at what Obama has to deal with and looking at what he's against Obama in no way has been weak with congress.

Good or even adequate at times?

No...

Over all weak in negotiations?!!!?!?

That doesn't seam rational

There's little justifying Sanders consummate Obama bashing but now he's clinging to him like static charged clothes.

That's not authentic at all

[BlueStateLib]

46. Some forget how close a constitutional amendment to ban flag desecration came

Clinton voted for Dick Durbin alternative plan, which would make it against the law to damage the flag on federal land or with the intent of breaching the peace or intimidation, giving congress another choice instead of going down the constitutional amendment road. Laws can be changed by future congress and the courts, constitutional amendment's are forever

A constitutional amendment to ban flag desecration died in a Senate cliffhanger Tuesday, a single vote short of the support needed to send it to the states for ratification and four months before voters elect a new Congress.

The 66-34 tally in favor of the amendment was one less than the two-thirds required. The House surpassed that threshold last year, 286-130.

The Senate also rejected an alternative put forward by assistant Democratic leader Dick Durbin of Illinois. It would have made it against the law to damage the flag on federal land or with the intent of breaching the peace or intimidation
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-rejects-flag-burning-amendment/

[merrily]

47. That is not close! It could not make it out of Congress let alone ratification.

FYI: No constitutional amendment that was the slightest bit controversial has made it through ratification since Eisenhower was President. And, btw, the way to head off an undesirable constitutional amendment is not to save the right the trouble of getting it ratified. Not to mention that her bills were unconstitutional. But, it's all good because she could not get anything she wrote passed anyway. And if the amendment was so close, why couldn't she even get her billed passed? Why not put the bill in place while the amendment was getting ratified (in theory, anyway)?

[BlueStateLib]

50. 1 vote is pretty close

38 state legislatures would of ratified a flag burning constitutional amendment

[merrily]

52. I already responded fully to your "one vote is close" claim.

You added nothing that shows that the flag amendment would have been the one controversial thing to have been ratified in 65 years. Sorry, not buying it. Also, you failed to explain why her bill did not pass if the constitutional amendment were really so close to making it out of Congress and not just kabuki.

Bill Clinton had two tactics to justify the rightist stuff he did. One was to lobby Democrats hard, so he could later claim he had a veto-proof majority. The other was falsely claiming a constitutional amendment was imminent, as he did with DOMA.

Besides, the point is that she couldn't get any bill she wrote passed, not even one the right supposedly desired. Although her making two attempts to pass a patently unconstitutional law is disturbing as well.

[Shandris]

5. Damn, two forums, six posts, ten minutes. All with the same talking point.

Your campaign moves on those quickly. :golfclap:

[Cassiopeia]

8. Talking points came in quickly tonight.

[NanceGreggs]

6. Bernie is ready to lead the Revolution ...

... just as soon as "millions and millions of people" start it for him. He'll then be ready to step in at the appropriate moment.

[geologic]

9. Yep...

[redstateblues]

17. Political Revolution is a bumper sticker. That's all

[BlueCaliDem]

33. Yep. Now's the time to put his money where his mouth is.

Barring that, I won't take him seriously.

[uponit7771]

45. +1

[Fumesucker]

48. I proudly stand with Nance Greggs v2.0.08, that lady was a sharp judge of character

[uponit7771]

64. More ad homs suggest a weak position

[NanceGreggs]

74. The fact that you keep posting the same crap statement ...

.. in response to my posts is beyond childish - but I'm more than happy for you to keep demonstrating that for all to see.

[bravenak]

51. Yep. Me too, I'm staring my own rev rev soon.

You all can join now for the low low price of 20 easy payments of 19.99.

[uponit7771]

63. Like OWS!! I've been making this point for a long time. Sanders doesn't have a track record with

... his revolution.

If he did this would be a route, I don't think HRC would've jumped in the race

[Cassiopeia]

7. I'm sure he will be happy to help Obama push his nom through

provided Obama picks a nominee that will fight for the ideas Bernie is pushing for.

[orpupilofnature57]

10. Raising Millions $27 at a time, instead of a couple dinners with Friends is one of many of the ways

Bernie has brought it to the people, Energizing youth to participate, Exposing MSM for their misinforming us about anything that exposes the 1%, their boss . I think he's doing fine with the Political Revolution by simply including Everyone in the American Dream, which presently is enjoyed by 12% , the 1% and the 11% made up of MSM and the people in government and industry willing to lie, steal, cheat and kill for them .

[JudyM]

11. He wasn't on the judiciary committee, last time I checked...

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/members

[Indepatriot]

12. Have Hillary get Goldman Sachs to take care of it.....

[Odin2005]

13. The desperation is strong with this one.

[TheBlackAdder]

16. Panic! The masterful propaganda efforts mirror the thought processes of FOX News staff.

[jillan]

14. Obama is the President. it is up to him to do the nomination

Do you have a problem with that? Are you saying Obama can't do his job?

[Cali_Democrat]

15. Read my OP again

Obama will nominate someone, but we need Bernie's "political revolution" to help get the nominee CONFIRMED in the Senate where Bernie is currently a member.

Get it now?

[Motown_Johnny]

26. The confirmation process takes longer than you seem to think.

We will have a nominee before this is over. Can we count on you now supporting Bernie since you now realize that his revolution is what this country needs?

[CoffeeCat]

29. Bernie is building a revolution through

The primary and GE process.

Bernie has talked about this quite a bit. That if Bernie continues to win and galvanize support, this will build a coalition of engaged Ameticans that will demand change--led by Sanders as President.


Sanders has repeatedly said that no President can do this alone. "We the People have to demand it." That's the revolution--a president fighting like hell using the leverage of the American people to pass his agenda; our agenda.

I agree with Sanders when he said that Obama had awoken the American people. However, after Obama was elected he said, "I'll take it from here." Obama didn't activate his followers for political change. He chose to work with Republicans and compromise.

Although Obama accomplished a great deal, he did not parlay his crush of electoral support into a force for change.

Sanders intends to do that.

So, Sanders is in the process of building that revolution.

[cosmicone]

18. Very true

Come on guys ..... let's see the strength of the revolution with millions of people taking to the streets at the command of Bernie Sanders to get Obama's nominee get through the senate confirmation.

Let's go Bernie -- what are you waiting for? Give a command and get your millions of supporters swarm Washington and if it works, I may even vote for you!

[Bobbie Jo]

22. Now that would be impressive.

We've heard the talk, let's see some action.

Surely McConnell has a Facebook page.

[Jamaal510]

23. +1

[BlueCaliDem]

34. +2 - but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you, cosmicone.

As I've been saying all along...all hat, no cattle.

[uponit7771]

43. +1, you know what... quite as its kept.... that might REALLY work... no joke, he get a million folk

... to march against the GOP obstruction to the point that they wont obstruct then...


Shit... I'd take a hard look

[jfern]

19. This was posted twice? Is this the latest flail wildly from Hillary headquarters?

[upaloopa]

27. You don't believe in the revolution anymore than we do

[CoffeeCat]

30. You people are full of mocking

and condescension.

It's very ugly.

[BlueCaliDem]

38. Yep. But it sure do sound "revolutionary" and kewl.

[frylock]

20. I'm not kidding, Maddi!

[Skwmom]

21. We are busy trying to win an election and take back our govt from the corporations and 1%.

Obama is the President and Biden can work the Senate.

[Live and Learn]

24. Open your eyes, you are missing it. nt

[Motown_Johnny]

25. Once he is the nominee it can begin. Can we now rely on your support

or are you unwilling to practice what you preach?

[BlueCaliDem]

35. Why wait? Why not start the revolution now? What are you afraid of?

The worst that can happen is that it doesn't materialize the way you Berners are hoping. The best that could happen is that you'll siphon supporters away from Hillary and Bernie can then defeat her. Let's see that revolution you supporters have been proselytizing for months now.

[oasis]

28. Dust off those marching shoes and walk the walk.

We're counting on you.

[Empowerer]

31. They're waiting for January. 21, 2017. Then they'll be all over it.

[BlueCaliDem]

36. Yeah right.

[SamKnause]

32. Sounds like a project for the Clinton family, DWS, and the DNC.

They want full control.

Let's see just how much influence this family, DWS, and the DNC has.

[BlueCaliDem]

37. They never promised a revolution. Bernie and his supporters have.

So where is it? Otherwise, that talk of a revolution is:

[uponit7771]

42. +1

[Kalidurga]

39. This is HILLARIOUS coming from a supporter of the candidate for...

incremental change.

[kath]

49. It sure is.

But the appreciation of irony requires at least a reasonably high level of thought processes...

[uponit7771]

41. lol...you bad

[Live and Learn]

55. Another creme-less mushroom post. How sad. nt

[wyldwolf]

57. 8 years of GW Bush and Bernie saw no need for a Revolution

8 years of one of the most successful Democratic presidencies in modern history - NOW we need a political revolution.

[orpupilofnature57]

58. In the 8 years of Dubya, Hillary became a Republican, in votes and the False fear SHE evoked .n/t

[wyldwolf]

61. 8 years of GW Bush and Bernie saw no need for a Revolution

8 years of one of the most successful Democratic presidencies in modern history - NOW we need a political revolution.

[orpupilofnature57]

67. If the person You voted for Killed more, Looked the other way on the law more, and grew Homeland spy

program more, Proposed NAFTA on steroids , YES WE ( 99% ) Need an escape from the Political Society made up of MSM , Industry and the scoundrels who woo us with Poetry & Platitudes, and then vote with themselves and 1% in mind . It's a revolution in thinking instead of listening the Chris Mathews of the world, who are sullied with $$$$$ .Yes we do .

[wyldwolf]

68. 8 years of GW Bush and Bernie saw no need for a Revolution

8 years of one of the most successful Democratic presidencies in modern history - NOW we need a political revolution.

[orpupilofnature57]

69. Yes ?

[wyldwolf]

70. The perfect is the enemy of the good

[orpupilofnature57]

71. No, Good enough is the enemy of the Best , Third way is just that .

[wyldwolf]

72. 8 years of GW Bush and Bernie saw no need for a Revolution

8 years of one of the most successful Democratic presidencies in modern history - NOW we need a political revolution.

[orpupilofnature57]

73. Thanks, I got to go make Calls now, I'm 16 yrs behind, See ya.

[MrMickeysMom]

59. So, when you're totally frustrated over finding no fault with Bernie's campaign...

You suddenly decide he has to do something RFN in the Senate...

Ahhhhh... Here's another moment!

[randome]

60. What gets me is those who never paid the slightest attention to Sanders in those decades...

...now believe him to be the greatest thing since puppies were invented.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[Nonhlanhla]

65. Bernie has not put in the work

I like Bernie, but his revolution is a chimera. If he really wanted to bring about a revolution, he should have been building a movement for at least the last 20 years, by helping progressives get elected on all levels of politics. How do you think the GOP got the power they have? They started with school boards.

[Bonobo]

66. Not good enough, Bernieeeeeee! nt