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Capehart just wrote a new article about the Bernie photo controversy (Original Post) oberliner Feb 2016 OP
No backtracking exboyfil Feb 2016 #1
She was married to Rapport for only 5 years. mainer Feb 2016 #6
Don't disagree at all exboyfil Feb 2016 #16
She was only married to him for 5 years and was NOT at the sit in. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #17
The evidence is explained clearly in the Time article I posted cali Feb 2016 #34
Well that was a click I would UglyGreed Feb 2016 #2
I wish he coukd stop himself from doing this. bravenak Feb 2016 #3
He's so blinded by wanting to be right, he can't see the truth. mainer Feb 2016 #4
And, after all, it appears in the Washington Post MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #21
This is turning into TDale313 Feb 2016 #5
Bless his heart Fumesucker Feb 2016 #7
..... madfloridian Feb 2016 #19
Not good enough capehart! SwampG8r Feb 2016 #8
further digging in, I see nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #9
He's really gotten an earful on twitter oberliner Feb 2016 #23
I know I have gone back for the fun nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #25
He is really sticking to his guns oberliner Feb 2016 #62
Yup, on my feed nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #63
how much is Capehurst getting "paid" for this? Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #10
Excellent article. Thanks. Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #11
He's trapped in a career meltdown of his own making and can't find an honorable way out. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #12
Lots of ink for everyone but the photographer whose additional stills prove him right. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #13
There is no controversy, he made it up, he got caught and now he's spinning his wheels. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #14
He did win a Pulitzer Prize in 1999 oberliner Feb 2016 #26
He can say goodbye to any more awards. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #28
+a million. It's as plain as day from the photos. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #27
I'm glad... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #15
Interesting that everyone he spoke to is voting for Bernie oberliner Feb 2016 #20
Is this guy planning on actually doing a retraction? kenfrequed Feb 2016 #18
I think this was it oberliner Feb 2016 #22
The Time Story OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #57
No mea culpa from Capehart. He's lost all credibility. Broward Feb 2016 #24
It wasn't just the existence of the outtake photos. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #29
Very weird that he didn't think to interview the photographer before running the initial story oberliner Feb 2016 #31
Yes, assuming he's a journalist. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #35
He won a Pulitzer in 1999 oberliner Feb 2016 #37
And Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #43
They were a series of articles about saving the Apollo Theatre oberliner Feb 2016 #45
Doesn't sound like much research or investigation needed. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #46
Well he was a key member of an team that got a Pulitzer for Editorial Writing for a series of pieces Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #47
Goodwin credited editorial writers Michael Aronson and Jonathan Capehart in particular oberliner Feb 2016 #49
Like I said, shared an award for writing editorials about a theater. 17 years ago. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #51
Just providing more info oberliner Feb 2016 #53
not just a theatre bigtree Feb 2016 #75
There is egg on a *LOT* on faces that so desperately Aerows Feb 2016 #30
She didn't learn her lesson in '08, ... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #39
All You Have To Do Is Look At THE NOSES!! ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #32
Ear as well... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #54
He's fucking ridiculous. AzDar Feb 2016 #33
I believe the photographer NowSam Feb 2016 #36
Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post CentralMass Feb 2016 #38
Capehart made up this story and did not even bother to call Danny Lyon to ask about the photo Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #40
Actually he got it from the Time Magazine story oberliner Feb 2016 #41
Then he's just lazy. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #44
So he's just repeating gossip while Time is constructing it, no one checks the facts or calls the Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #50
What a piece of work. Vattel Feb 2016 #42
Gotta go with the wife. And roommates. The thing I R B Garr Feb 2016 #48
I would go with the emotional evidence too if it conflicted with actual photos. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #52
The wife described physical details of her husband, Bruce. R B Garr Feb 2016 #59
And the pictures in sequence show that it is clearly Bernie Kalidurga Feb 2016 #61
Tad Devine couldn't even say for sure. R B Garr Feb 2016 #64
I am so sick of this crap. It's Sanders. Clinton ratfucked him. mhatrw Feb 2016 #68
Did you see Capehart on Hardball? He was pressibng a minor "Gotcha" like it was a huge scandal Armstead Feb 2016 #76
Also look at the hands Andy823 Feb 2016 #56
Agreed. Great post. I didn't realize Bernie was only 5'8"! R B Garr Feb 2016 #65
It was a total ratfucking. mhatrw Feb 2016 #69
LMAO! The conspiracy theory is hilarious! R B Garr Feb 2016 #74
At this link is a famous photo by Danny Lyon of John Lewis or apparently a photo Lyon and Lewis Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #73
I'm sorry. I can't look. K Gardner Feb 2016 #55
What difference does it make? Clearly Sanders was involved. Who is in the photo just doesn't Hoyt Feb 2016 #58
Huh? "Give Clinton credit." delrem Feb 2016 #70
Until 1967 at latest. She was 20. Heck, Warren was a GOPer much later than that. Hoyt Feb 2016 #71
Well, you'd better tell that to Capehart. delrem Feb 2016 #72
Capehart blames UChicago. Octafish Feb 2016 #60
I did this compare Jarqui Feb 2016 #66
You want to know the most bizarre part catnhatnh Feb 2016 #67

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
1. No backtracking
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:15 PM
Feb 2016

Full steam ahead. Turned it into he said/she said but since she was a spouse, she trumps the photographer. This after the photographer has film absolutely confirming the fact that it is Sanders. He links to the evidence, but never discusses how it should have more weight.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
16. Don't disagree at all
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:23 PM
Feb 2016

I would trust photographic evidence over 50 year old memories any day. They do look somewhat alike (even though the earlobes are clearly different), and he was involved in the same cause as Bernie. Chances are he was in front of audiences speaking as well. Just not this time.

It should have never have been used against Bernie to begin with even if he wasn't in the picture. The Time piece brought it into question, but Capehart tried to use it like a club.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
12. He's trapped in a career meltdown of his own making and can't find an honorable way out.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

What a fucking tool.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
13. Lots of ink for everyone but the photographer whose additional stills prove him right.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

Capehart is a hack and deserves to be fired. Had he come put and admitted he made a mistake my opinion might have softened. But he didn't so it hasn't.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
14. There is no controversy, he made it up, he got caught and now he's spinning his wheels.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

He's a hack and his reputation is in ruins, loser.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
28. He can say goodbye to any more awards.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:31 PM
Feb 2016

He tried to destroy the reputations of two good men and now he's paying the price.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
27. +a million. It's as plain as day from the photos.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016

Washington Post could call in a photo forensic expert if they had any doubt.

But there is no doubt. Capehart is a shill. The political damage is done though, and just in time for South Caroline. How convenient!

The Post takes a reputation hit as well.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
15. I'm glad...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

Bruce's family and friends are supporting Bernie. I understand their desire to make sure Bruce gets credit for his efforts. But the other photos released along with the ear comparisons are pretty strong evidence that it was Bernie.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. Interesting that everyone he spoke to is voting for Bernie
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:25 PM
Feb 2016

Weird, though, that he is sticking to his guns that it might not be Bernie in the photo.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
18. Is this guy planning on actually doing a retraction?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:25 PM
Feb 2016

Or a Mea Culpa or something?

He is just sort of blurring the whole thing into a mess without acknowledging that he was at bare minimum wrong for not doing a better job of fact checking. I mean, shouldn't a proper journalist get his facts right?

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
57. The Time Story
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:33 PM
Feb 2016

seems more balanced. Perhaps because it actually published to other photos in the sequence.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
24. No mea culpa from Capehart. He's lost all credibility.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:28 PM
Feb 2016

The higher-ups at the Post should've issued a retraction if Capehart was unwilling to set the record straight himself.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
29. It wasn't just the existence of the outtake photos.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:32 PM
Feb 2016

The contact sheet of the entire roll of film shows the photos in sequence. Same subject person in movement in a sequence of shots. Game. Set. Match.
Capehart is just weasel-spinning to save his ruined reputation. Just fucking man up, admit your research was sloppy, people can have faulty memories and you didn't interview the photographer, and you wrote a false story.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
31. Very weird that he didn't think to interview the photographer before running the initial story
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:36 PM
Feb 2016

You'd think that would be journalism 101.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
35. Yes, assuming he's a journalist.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:40 PM
Feb 2016

It's looking like he's just a hack writer regurgitating a 'story' the campaign handed him.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
37. He won a Pulitzer in 1999
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:42 PM
Feb 2016

He's been a pretty respected journalist going on two decades.

This was really bad.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
43. And Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:00 PM
Feb 2016


IDK the details of his Pulitzer Prize, but his recent story was just a hack hatchet job that took less time to debunk than it took him to write. He never even talked to the photographer...smh. And now he's trying to spin an excuse...lame.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
47. Well he was a key member of an team that got a Pulitzer for Editorial Writing for a series of pieces
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:06 PM
Feb 2016

about the Apollo Theater. So it was not an individual award, it was not for reporting but for persuasive writing and it was not about politics. It was a very excellent and useful series of editorials. But since clarity of writing is a key factor in awarding the Editorial Pulitzer, I feel we should point out the facts clearly when speaking of that award.
He shared an award for writing editorials about a theater. 17 years ago.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
49. Goodwin credited editorial writers Michael Aronson and Jonathan Capehart in particular
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:10 PM
Feb 2016
Its "Showdown at the Apollo" series was written in that spirit, and all six members of the Editorial Board were honored for contributing to it. Goodwin credited editorial writers Michael Aronson and Jonathan Capehart in particular for "pulling the plow" on the Apollo editorials. The other prize winners are Deputy Editorial Page Editor Brian Kates and board members Karen Hunter, Alex Storozynski and Karen Zautyk. Goodwin said the board was alerted to the Apollo's decrepit state during a tour last March of the once-venerable theater, whose Amateur Night launched the careers of Pearl Bailey, Gladys Knight, James Brown and other pop icons. Its troubles were laid out for the first time April 26 in a two-part editorial bearing the logo "Showdown at the Apollo.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/news-wins-pulitzer-top-honor-apollo-theatre-editorials-article-1.825525
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
51. Like I said, shared an award for writing editorials about a theater. 17 years ago.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:21 PM
Feb 2016

I also said it was good work and also useful work. Editorial and collaborative, non political good work.

I'd say the collaborative nature of the work he was awarded for is something that is currently lacking in his solo career as a man who works without checks and scoffs at all outside opinion, including at this point the actual word of the man who took the pictures.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
53. Just providing more info
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:25 PM
Feb 2016

I looked up the details and thought I would share.

He certainly looks bad here, that's for sure. Could be a career ender.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
30. There is egg on a *LOT* on faces that so desperately
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:36 PM
Feb 2016

wanted this to be true.

I guess this is the Hillary Supporter way - since you can't beat him on issues, you can't beat him on ethics and you can't beat him on principles, make shit up.

I have never seen a campaign grasp at so many straws to discredit and alienate a person that is an exemplary leader.

I expect the next major controversy to be that he didn't put money in the Salvation Army can because he's Jewish, or that he didn't buy girl scout cookies because he's a misogynist.

If Hillary & Co. wonder why lifelong Democrats aren't exactly knocking down the doors to vote for her, they only need to look at their candidate's behavior. By their fruits you shall know them.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
39. She didn't learn her lesson in '08, ...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:45 PM
Feb 2016

...and she's not going to learn her lesson from this. Next week they'll attempt another smear, and again end up wearing the feces they've flung. It's comical, like watching Wile E. Coyote.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
54. Ear as well...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

The guy standing has Bernie's ear. The two guys have a similar appearance overall but the nose and ears are pretty different.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
40. Capehart made up this story and did not even bother to call Danny Lyon to ask about the photo
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:58 PM
Feb 2016

The 'wife' was married to Bruce for five years way the fuck back then. She was not present on the day of the photo in question at all.
Lyon is an established photojournalist whose work is collected and archived, curated. His work is considered source material in and of itself in many cases. He has been praised for his work and personal courage by Congressman John Lewis, another subject of some of Lyon's best known images.

Capehart is a hack and his paper is a work of fiction.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
50. So he's just repeating gossip while Time is constructing it, no one checks the facts or calls the
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:13 PM
Feb 2016

people most qualified to speak about the photographs no matter how many gossips repeat the tale on their TV shows with Capehart claiming absolute knowledge that is in fact just bullshit people made up and other 'journalists' just swallowed whole, an entire industry that does not actually do the job it claims to do, all for six figure salaries and Pulitzer Prizes for passing on really good gossip.

Toxic to the United States of America. These are McCarthy's heirs.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
42. What a piece of work.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:00 PM
Feb 2016

Even if he is going to stick his head up his ass and ignore the evidence, he should at least apologize for attacking Sanders' integrity on the basis of the photo. Capehart's lack of integrity is glaring.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
48. Gotta go with the wife. And roommates. The thing I
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:07 PM
Feb 2016

noticed right away is that the hair on the standing Bruce Rappaport is more of a flattop. I'm sure she would know her husband whom she married during that time period.

Bernie's head/curls look more round-y. Both obviously have thick curls, but those pictures show a flattop.*

Capehart is right about Tad Devine. He could not confirm that was Bernie, and he was flippant when asked why they were using that unconfirmed picture with the imprimatur of Bernie Sanders for President. If you can't even believe someone's campaign spokesman, well....

*not sure what the 60's's hairstyles were called. Flattops?

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
59. The wife described physical details of her husband, Bruce.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

So did the roommates. If there is any excessive emotionalism, it's from over-invested Sanders supporters who have probably never seen either man, especially during the time period in question.

So Capehart caught a lot of crap for basically nothing. Tad Devine was also cagey and misleading. This story came out before in November, but he had a specific question for the campaign now. Looks like the University deferred to the photographer to keep from having more archives questioned. So it's not really debunked -- just shelved.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
61. And the pictures in sequence show that it is clearly Bernie
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:48 PM
Feb 2016

they are clear enough that if they were crime scene photos he would be convicted of being there.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
76. Did you see Capehart on Hardball? He was pressibng a minor "Gotcha" like it was a huge scandal
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:32 AM
Feb 2016

Even if Capehart's claim were true, it'd be worth nothing more than a little mention in a round up of political chit chat.

But he "coincidentally" brought out this "scoop" on tekevision the same day other Clinton surrogates were Swiftboiating him abiut whether Bernie "really was involved" in the civil rights movement.

Reprehensible.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
56. Also look at the hands
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:31 PM
Feb 2016

In the questioned photo you can see that hands are long as are the fingers, same way they look in the picture Rappaport and his wife. The man in the picture looks tall and his spine does seem to curve forward. Bernie is 5'8, not so tall, and in pictures his hands seem to be about average, not long with long fingers.

I too agree about what Devine was saying on MSNBC about how they "weren't" trying to say it was Bernie, just using the picture, and he got all red in he face and flustered. He was obviously not saying they knew for sure it was Bernie, even though Weaver has come out now and said they are sure. My question is why doesn't Bernie speak out on this? Some have said he already once said he wasn't sure himself.

No matter who it is, and we will probably never know for sure, those who think it is Bernie will continue too, and those who disagree will continue to think it isn't. It is really not as big a deal as some here have made it, and once again decided that the actions of one person is an act of Hillary Clinton's "swift boating" Bernie.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
65. Agreed. Great post. I didn't realize Bernie was only 5'8"!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:33 PM
Feb 2016

That makes the wife's comments about her husband's tall bent forward neck make sense. She recognized it.

Agreed that it's not a big deal overall. Bruce's daughter said she understands why the campaign would want to use the standing picture because it's more powerful, but no one denied Bernie was there. Capehart was just asking why the campaign would use a yet unconfirmed picture, and the campaign spokesperson mislead him.

Dragging Hillary into this is really ridiculous. Agreed it was not necessary.





R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
74. LMAO! The conspiracy theory is hilarious!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:08 AM
Feb 2016

You don't even touch on the two or three things that made me curious about it, although I couldn't even get through it and quit reading. Ugh. You obviously didn't watch Tad Devine on MSNBC about this.

That is some DEEP END skulduggery conspiracy there. How embarrassing for you.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
73. At this link is a famous photo by Danny Lyon of John Lewis or apparently a photo Lyon and Lewis
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:28 AM
Feb 2016

claim is of John Lewis. It's not a full face shot so perhaps Lyon, being so untrustworthy is lying? Lewis claims he does not even know any of these people, yet this photo is in Library of Congress as if it was verified history...

Take a look. Are Lyon and Lewis telling the truth about this photo?
John Lewis in Cairo

Accession Number:
2012:127
Artist:
Lyon, Danny
http://www.mocp.org/detail.php?t=objects&type=browse&f=maker&s=Lyon%2C+Danny&record=81


Perhaps it is time to review and to question?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
58. What difference does it make? Clearly Sanders was involved. Who is in the photo just doesn't
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:39 PM
Feb 2016

matter. Give Sanders credit for the part he played. Give Clinton credit. And thank god for Lewis, MLK, Parks, Evers, Till, Freedom Riders, and everyone who stood for justice.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
70. Huh? "Give Clinton credit."
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:07 AM
Feb 2016

She was a Goldwater supporter, tho' that was so early in her life that I don't hold it against her and she did grow up. But what "credit" should she get for organizing for civil rights at that particular time?

And I lived through those times and know that Bernie Sanders, and all the "white progressives" of the time who're now being slandered and called nasty names for what they did, were much more courageous than ME. Had a much much more developed social conscience, social understanding than me. They are still among my heroes and heroines.

Capehart's spouse is tightly connected with the Clinton campaign. Is that the kind of "credit" that you mean? That this was a top-down swiftboating ratfucking smear that went awry, and Clinton should take credit where it's due? I doubt she's that's hands-on, myself, and expect it was contracted out through Brock.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
71. Until 1967 at latest. She was 20. Heck, Warren was a GOPer much later than that.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:15 AM
Feb 2016

Clinton grew up in a conservative household, so early GOPer period is not that unusual. She changed in college because of Civil Rights Movement. Yeah, she deserves some credit too.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
72. Well, you'd better tell that to Capehart.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:19 AM
Feb 2016

I'm sure he can run a column explaining all about this "credit" that you're giving her.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
60. Capehart blames UChicago.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:44 PM
Feb 2016

The archives were manipulated, certainly. That doesn't excuse his propagandist's role as smear artist first class. He also fails as a journalist for failing to mention his partner's connection to DEMs. I'll side with one of the greatest universities in the universe on this one.

Oh. And this second piece also is a smear. The non apology excuse happens as one sentence buried two graphs from the end.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
66. I did this compare
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:49 PM
Feb 2016

from these two photos






Do these look like the same guy (Bruce Rappaport)?

Edit: there could be up to a year difference or more between the photo. Randy Ross, Bruce's wife, joined CORE but wasn't at this event - might have been before her time. Bruce looks a little heavier in the left hand pic but it might be that he put on a little weight in the year before he got married.

I also thought the guy in the pic looked a little nerdy with what appears to be a pen pocket protector in his shirt. My first impression of this photo of Bruce at U of Chicago was he looked nerdy.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
67. You want to know the most bizarre part
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:53 PM
Feb 2016

He quotes the daughter of a woman who was not there as proof of a man's identity-a man whom the daughter apparently never met and which was taken before she was born....Thems' some fookin' credentials for expert testimony...

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