Be VERY careful about going after Jim Clyburn if you have any hope of swinging the black vote in SC

[Empowerer]

to Sanders.

I suggest you first learn something about his history, his record and his reputation - and think very long and very hard before you try to come at him.

[Punkingal]

1. Jesus Christ. So he will endorse Hillary...why would anyone go after him?

That's no surprise at all....and anyway, even if I did "go after him" it wouldn't mean shit to anyone in South Carolina.

[roguevalley]

50. Lewis endorsed HIllary over the FIRST BLACK CANDIDATE WITH A REAL SHOT,

Barak Obama. That says a lot.

[cherokeeprogressive]

2. Jim who?

[Empowerer]

3. You may be proud of your ignorance, but the Dems in South Carolina don't have to ask that question.

[cherokeeprogressive]

5. That was my way of saying his endorsement means nothing in the larger scheme of things.

I know who the fuck he is and if I didn't; I know how to use ze google.

[Empowerer]

11. It doesn't "mean nothing" where it matters

if Sanders wants to get a sizable chunk of the black vote away from Hillary, he's got to go through Clyburn - a highly-respected powerhouse in South Carolina, former Chair of the CBC and former House Whip. Dismissing him as if his endorsement means nothing is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

Folks were falling all over themselves a few days ago when Harry Belafonte endorsed Sanders. Jim Clyburn is worth countless Harry Belafontes in this campaign.

[SheenaR]

25. If a group of people

vote based on what one man says to do, I have no reason to keep quiet about it.

[cherokeeprogressive]

30. I don't fall all over myself over endorsements. My mind is on who's better for the country.

And Hillary Clinton ain't it.

But then, it's always said that we get the government we deserve. I guess there's some truth to that.

[berniepdx420]

28. I've seen you use this fear card before Empowerer... so antithetical to your name....eom

[Empowerer]

31. Telling people not to go after Clyburn if they want to get the black vote in SC is a "fear card?"

Ok . . .

[berniepdx420]

32. "Be VERY careful... yep ... fear card IMO

[notadmblnd]

46. why would anyone go after him?

you know something the rest of us don't?

[cali]

4. No one will go after him or make shit up

about him like.....

[nc4bo]

6. It's as simple as the man was mistaken........here is the corrected story...then leave it

for people to decide for themselves how they wish to digest it.

Nothing wrong with a good ole debunking.

[NurseJackie]

7. It would be reckless. But now that you've given fair warning ...

... I have little doubt, and am exceedingly confident, that there's at least ONE person who may consider it to be a "personal challenge" rather than as a word-to-the-wise.

Oh well. What can ya do?

[snagglepuss]

8. What a sleazy farcical subject line. You better listen to me Empowerer

you and you ilk better not come after snagglepuss.

[cali]

15. I, Rags the Tiger, will defend thee, oh fair snagglepuss

[beam me up scottie]

23. LMAO! Perfect response.

[farleftlib]

63. Purr-fect response

Good on ya, snagglepuss.

[restorefreedom]

9. the only people going after anybody

are the hordes of elites and their minions going after bernie

oh, and warnings don't tend to play well, just my friendly two cents

[dchill]

10. What's he done?

[kydo]

19. Endorsed Hillary I think

And since the GDP as turned into BS forum #2, he will probably be tossed under the bus like everyone else that has endorsed her.

Remember no one is ever supposed to say, write or think anything positive about HRC. They aren't even allowed to do that in the Hillary group with out fear of having their posts hidden by a disgruntle bs fan..... crazy ain't it?

[dchill]

26. So basically you're trolling...

Hoping Sanders supporters DO go after him. How Brockish. Clyburn can endorse whoever he wants.

[kydo]

40. No trolling ... just pointing out the obvious. nt

[Fawke Em]

48. Not really.

The stories about Sanders supporters going after people, however, are bunk.

If you actually click on the names of the examples given in these stories, you'll find the vast majority aren't anyone's supporter, are right-wingers or are just interested in politics. Of the couple dozen listed in the stories, I've fond one guy who was a Bernie supporter and another woman who MIGHT be, but I'm not sure.

To write a story claiming Bernie supporters are going after Lewis (or anyone else) without provide on lick-spittle of proof is sleazy politics and everyone who does it should be called out.

[kydo]

69. Except for its true

All you have to do is look in this GDP forum. There is tons of proof. Half the posts in this forum are hit jobs on anyone not saying the bs guy ain't a saint.

And yeah, some of these people are right wing trolls, but many aren't.

[Joe the Revelator]

34. :yawn:

[kydo]

43. maybe you should go take a nap or have some coffee if you are tired

but be careful, bugs might fly in that wide open mouth when yawning....

[LexVegas]

12. They're going after John Lewis. Clyburn isn't immune from the Berniebros. nt

[cali]

17. Hillarians pushing another Brock lie. How unsurprising

[Bok_Tukalo]

36. I think that is a response to John Lewis' diminishing of Sen. Sanders work in civil rights movement

Not for his endorsement of Clinton but for being kind of an asshole.

[Fawke Em]

57. Except they aren't.

Click on the Tweets they've posted.

Of the couple of dozen provided in two stories, I found ONE who was a definite Bernie supporter and one who may be (both of these people happened to be AAs, btw). The rest had no particular political persuasion, were right-wingers or were just interested in politics and posted about a variety of candidates on both sides.

No proof that any horde of Bernie supported "went after" anyone.

[AtomicKitten]

13. You should pass on that admonition to Bill Clinton in case things don't go their way again.

video interview: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/05/12/clyburn_on_2008_bill_clinton_told_me_if_you_bastards_want_a_fight_you_damn_well_will_get_one.html

Clyburn on 2008: Bill Clinton Told Me, "If You Bastards Want A Fight, You Damn Well Will Get One"

Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC), the most powerful African-American in Congress, recalls a 2am phone call he received from Bill Clinton after Barack Obama defeated Hillary Clinton in the 2008 South Carolina primary.

Clyburn stayed neutral in the primary, however Bill Clinton didn't think so.

"If you bastards want a fight, you damn well will get one," Clinton said according to Clyburn.

"He was very upset," Clyburn recalled. "His wife had just suffered a major defeat in the South Carolina primary, and I had not been involved in it, but Bill Clinton thought otherwise."

"We met by accident several weeks later… we've seen each other several times since. In fact, I had a lovely breakfast with Hillary two to three years after that. I think everything's okay," Clyburn told ABC News' Jeff Zeleny in an interview aired on Yahoo!

[farleftlib]

66. Ha-ha

Hillary's 2008 campaign.

[polly7]

21. LOL.

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[beam me up scottie]

24. +1

[SheenaR]

27. This ^

[AtomicKitten]

29. + 1000000

[Arazi]

16. I don't think these endorsements are helping Hillary

They're only emphasizing how much she's part of the status quo establishment

[morningfog]

18. Who are you talking to? The wind? Sanders Campaign isn't going to "go after him."

This is silly.

[kstewart33]

47. Then why are so many Bernie supporters here going after Clyburn? nt

[morningfog]

59. Ask them. They don't speak for Bernie anymore than the Hillary folk speak for her.

It's just juvenile to give the type of warning the op did when the person who would matter has done nothing close to what's warned against. It's just dumb.

[kstewart33]

64. I agree.

Sanders would be foolish to go after Clyburn. I think Empowerer was talking to DU Bernie supporters, not Bernie.

[morningfog]

65. In other words, the post is naval gazing meaningless.

[m-lekktor]

20. yeah because everybody knows the "SC black vote" reads DU and is as petty as you.

you need to stop insulting "the black vote". I would tend to give them more credit than you apparently do.

[Joe the Revelator]

22. Really getting sick of these type of 'warnings'

[TwilightGardener]

35. The warning is meant to provoke or create the perception they seek.

[polly7]

38. +1. nt.

[moondust]

33. Oooh! I'm intimidated!

Enjoy your time on IGNORE.

[Armstead]

37. Oh for Christ sake...You can't "go after" siomeone on a damn message bioard

If he simply endorses Clinton...Meh

If he insults and demeans Bernie while he;s at it, he deserves to be criticized, or "gone after" whatever the hell that means.

[jeff47]

39. You need to keep practicing. You're no David Brock yet. (nt)

[farleftlib]

67. IKR

"I served with David Brock. I knew David Brock. David Brock was a friend of mine. Empowerer, you're no David Brock!"

[jberryhill]

41. But Bill Clinton can call him a "bastard"

Um, okay.

[winter is coming]

42. Chelsea, is that you? n/t

[SheenaR]

44. SHHHHHHH!

You were warned... Don't get yourself in trouble with the OP... Look what happened to me

Empowerer (2,953 posts)

28. Yes, you could learn a lot from me

Pay attention.

GUYS RED ALERT ON THIS... This is a full warning. Be VERY careful.

[spooky3]

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[H2O Man]

45. Is this a joke?

I can't tell for sure. But, obviously, Bernie and Jim are old friends from way back.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

53. Bernie would NEVER go after Jim, now his ....i cant say the word, too dangerous

[cyberswede]

62. Best reply in the thread.

Thank you.

[bravenak]

51. This is great advice

[thereismore]

52. Establishment endorsements work against you this election cycle. She's got them. Fine by me. nt

[cui bono]

54. Thanks for your 'concern' and lecture.

I hesitate to use the word so many on here use... 'splaining... but that's exactly what you are now doing.

Not to mention in a very threatening and condescending manner.

.

[Empowerer]

56. "Threatening?"

Why am I not surprised that you would see it that way?

[cui bono]

68. Perhaps that was a bit strong. Combative might have been better. Point of the message stands.

You are doing just what I've seen you complain others do to you and in a much more stern and forceful manner. There, different description is better.

.

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. Party insider endorses party insider

News at 11

This is getting hilarious

[Starry Messenger]

58. k&r

[Bluenorthwest]

60. Bernie won't 'go after' Clyburn, but I will point out that Cyburn voted Yes on DOMA while Bernie

voted no making Clyburn's endorsement of Clinton a fitting and proper loyalty between members of that segment of the Party. That's one of the main reasons I'm voting for Bernie and not for that segment of the Party.

[Gothmog]

61. Jim Clyburn will be a great endorsement and he has great GOTV organization