2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRobert Scheer: Clinton Bubble: Clinton's Actions Led to Housing Collapse that Devastated Homeowners
And it worked: Traditional banks freed by the dissolution of New Deal regulations became much more aggressive in investing deposits, snapping up financial services companies in a binge of acquisitions. These giant conglomerates then bet long on a broad and limitless expansion of the economy, making credit easy and driving up the stock and real estate markets to unseen heights.
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Clintons role was decisive in turning Ronald Reagans obsession with an unfettered free market into law. Reagan, that fading actor recast so effectively as great propagandist for the unregulated marketget government off our backs was his patented rallying crywas far more successful at deregulating smokestack industries than the financial markets.
olddots
(10,237 posts)the cards have been shown .
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)We'd fight Republicans to the death to stop things like this, but if a Democrat pushes it, we won't. The powers that be are well aware of this and it's a major piece of how they get what they want.
Bernie for an alternative to the distopian corporate future.
amborin
(16,631 posts)for them, as in the case of NAFTA
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)in the late 80's, 90's, and 00's, recruited by conservative Democrats as the RNC slid to the far right. These refugees fleeing to the Democratic party are former republicons (most are moderates and corporatists), and they brought their penchant for authoritarianism with them.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)They represent profits, not people.
Some are former Republicans, most though are just the kind of people that rise up in the pipeline that is controlled by the corporate controlled DNC.
They're allowed to appear liberal on social issues (since it costs corporations nothing if their candidates give lip service to caring about racism, for example), but not allowed to get anywhere near economic populism or getting in the way of the upward redistribution of wealth.
MadFloridian has a long history of many informative posts on the nuts and bolts of how this all came about, well worth the time if you have it, or maybe you've already done this reading. There are a number of books on the subject, too.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)The problem with modern presidents is that they subscribe to some form of supply-side economics, because of some delusion that money comes from corporations.
Electing Bernie would be a departure from that.
--imm
Festivito
(13,452 posts)No, it had to be a Democrat.
Even if it starts with Regan and there were a few glitches -- small recessions, did I remember to say small -- until we get to a ... a ... Democrat, Clinton, who had 8 years of constant up in market. The eventual fall after he left office due to Republican recalculations and putting their immediate bad months mixed with Clinton's last months was certainly not the fault of the Republican re-calculators.
No, it had to be a Democrat.
Even though the stock market took a dive the day of the election and people started putting their Clinton era earnings into housing instead. Even though the economy needed government help of borrowing over a thousand dollars per person and giving them 600 dollars to boost the economy. Even though as 2004 re-election loomed and 6 months prior the SEC decided to free the banks from that pesky old 10% rule. (CDOs are as good as cash anyway!) Even though we had changed from a trade surplus under Clinton to a trade deficit under W* that put cash into the hands of the Chinese who then put that cash into the housing bubble inflating it further and letting bankers give cash interest up front. (Oops, the Chinese didn't like that investment and we had to give them part of our national debt instead.) It couldn't be called a problem made by a Republican like W*.
No, it had to be a Democrat.
Not that anyone would benefit from re-writing history.
WARNING: There may be a lot of sarcasm here.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Reagan, the Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, they share the same neoliberal broker/rentier/corporate raider policies that have been failing since Eli Black went out that window
Festivito
(13,452 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)President during the Roaring Twenties bragging about the boom times while ignoring that the boom set up an enormous bust.