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enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:28 PM Feb 2016

This is What Happens When a Woman Supports Bernie Sanders Online

"Emily Ratajkowski is an actress and model best known for appearing in Gone Girl and the Blurred Lines music video. She’s supporting Senator Bernie Sanders in the democratic primary this election. Emily introduced Sanders at a rally on Monday, and you can watch her speech here.

Emily posted about this to her various social media accounts, and while most of her fans were excited to see her support of Bernie, a number of people weren’t. This is what happens when you support Bernie Sanders online while female.
First, people tell you to shut up and look pretty."

[link:https://medium.com/@lleeiii/this-is-what-happens-when-a-woman-supports-bernie-sanders-online-42b642ba673f#.s9n57flk3|

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This is What Happens When a Woman Supports Bernie Sanders Online (Original Post) enigmatic Feb 2016 OP
Undoubtedly Hill Sisses. cali Feb 2016 #1
to alerter--sisses is the counterpart to bro's.....Bernie bro's, Hill Sisses.....get it? virtualobserver Feb 2016 #11
Once again, reading comprehension is the downfall of some here. kath Feb 2016 #13
get alot of that PatrynXX Feb 2016 #38
Number 5: "Consider the source." panader0 Feb 2016 #22
one more Hill sis or bro, and that would have been an unjustified hide virtualobserver Feb 2016 #24
LOL. that made me laugh that they thought Cali said sissies. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #25
I don't think that was a mistake, cali has been alert stalked for months. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #27
that's messed up. I just know Cali would never use a slur like that. m-lekktor Feb 2016 #29
You're right, of course she wouldn't but the alerter was hoping for gullible jurors. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #30
aaah. sleazy. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #31
they change slang on me so much PatrynXX Feb 2016 #39
except in this instance she meant sis's , short for sisters! bernie bros, Hillary sis's m-lekktor Feb 2016 #40
To the alerter: Reading is fundamental. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #34
actually no PaulaFarrell Feb 2016 #12
or perhaps a bunch of misogynist jerks on the internet. Raine1967 Feb 2016 #21
That is just wrong and I support Hillary rbrnmw Feb 2016 #2
Those tweets are vile, but the writer makes a good point, worth a read: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #3
Sad but true :( arcane1 Feb 2016 #7
Just from posting around here I know this part is true farleftlib Feb 2016 #16
We've had our feminist cred questioned from the moment we announced we supported Bernie. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #17
Bernie = white male rule? farleftlib Feb 2016 #19
Correct, it was the latter. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #23
Oh look. Internet trolling by HillBros. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #4
People have been trained to use social media for purposes of silencing anything outside... Shandris Feb 2016 #5
Like, every time, huh? Kurovski Feb 2016 #6
Clickable link jeff47 Feb 2016 #8
They are following the lead of Clinton's top surrogates, like Madeleine Albright Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #9
Why doesn't Clinton dooooooo something about this! Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #10
+1. And who said some Clinton supporters bvf Feb 2016 #26
Stuff like that happens to women online no matter what they do. nt cyberswede Feb 2016 #14
But, but, I thought it was only "BernieBros" who do such things! Odin2005 Feb 2016 #15
i think most of the people on this thread are missing the point PaulaFarrell Feb 2016 #18
Actually, I went to her Twitter feed and a fair Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #20
would those be the ones telling her to shut up and show her tits? PaulaFarrell Feb 2016 #48
I think you're missing the point. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #28
i didnt read every comment PaulaFarrell Feb 2016 #50
Wrong and some of that crap has happened here on the old DU nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #36
Yup, and we even see it here on this site nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #32
BREAKING NEWS: INTERNET TROLLS CAN BE MEAN!!!! mhatrw Feb 2016 #33
I'm waiting for a certain former President to condemn each troll jfern Feb 2016 #35
Wow, what a surprise that Hillary supporters can be mean on social media. Vattel Feb 2016 #37
*SMH* Bubzer Feb 2016 #41
This unfortunately happens to a lot of women mythology Feb 2016 #42
There is a powerful technique for preventing social media from silencing you. Binkie The Clown Feb 2016 #43
Note: sarcastic undertones Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #44
These hateful remarks on her page would be such fun and easy to take down and trash... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #45
The nasty comments were from Republican men, many of them the same Trump ecstatic Feb 2016 #46
a bunch of ugly/sexist remarks dana_b Feb 2016 #47
Damn you, Bernie Bros!!1 frylock Feb 2016 #49
Disgusting comments made by pathetic people. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #51
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
11. to alerter--sisses is the counterpart to bro's.....Bernie bro's, Hill Sisses.....get it?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:03 PM
Feb 2016

On Thu Feb 11, 2016, 03:53 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Undoubtedly Hill Sisses.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1203264

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Not only should comments like this embarrasses anyone over the age of 10,but "sissies" is a homophobic smear.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Feb 11, 2016, 03:56 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Absolutely not ok!
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Consider the source.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: sisses is the counterpart to bro's.....Bernie bro's, Hill Sisses.....get it?

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
38. get alot of that
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:26 PM
Feb 2016

clearly my ADD I'm guilty too but I see I'm not alone obviously I woulda figured that out. I need to take a political break for the day. partially why I wanted to get out of politics but Bernie decided I had some omph left , Hillary pretty much looks the worse for the wear today. throwing out even the kitchen sink that hit the wall yeah but wrong area you moved the wall at the bottom the wall is gonna fall back on top of her

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
27. I don't think that was a mistake, cali has been alert stalked for months.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:50 PM
Feb 2016

And alerters lie about posts to get hides all the time.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
29. that's messed up. I just know Cali would never use a slur like that.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

"consider the source" was just a nasty attack not based in reality.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
30. You're right, of course she wouldn't but the alerter was hoping for gullible jurors.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:02 PM
Feb 2016

I've seen it happen to others who had their posts hidden.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
39. they change slang on me so much
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:29 PM
Feb 2016

that I still think its a wimp term , been called sissie quite often and some Sissie's wear it with pride.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
21. or perhaps a bunch of misogynist jerks on the internet.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:16 PM
Feb 2016

I know you are aware that this kind of thing exists.


Take a look at what they did to Megan Kelly.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
3. Those tweets are vile, but the writer makes a good point, worth a read:
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:39 PM
Feb 2016
As Rachel Weaver put it in Of Bernie Bros and Famous Blue Dresses:

“Find any group that includes men who use the internet, and you will find men who are behaving horridly. The idea that this would be something unique to men drawn to support Bernie Sanders, a candidate with an impeccable record on women’s issues, is of course absurd, but the media and Hillary supporters have latched onto this convenient, if unsupported, narrative and treated it as gospel.”


Emily Ratajkowski found the internet to be no kinder to a woman who supports Bernie Sanders than it is to a woman who supports Hillary Clinton. Online harassment is a serious issue, and it would be great if both campaigns addressed it in a productive way. All the campaigns in this election are heavy users of social media and if they presented a unified platform to address online harassment it could possibly make social media companies to take the issue more seriously.

However, by framing the discussion in a way meant to benefit Hillary Clinton alone, the pundits have accomplished little, save insulting Sanders supporters and deluding Bill Clinton into thinking sexism is an issue he can lecture about.

With Clinton surrogates Madeline Albright and Gloria Steinem joining in with the online mob to hurl sexist insults at Sander’s female supporters coupled with the offensive spectacle of America’s most iconic practitioner of sexual harassment taking a stand on sexism, Hillary will likely need more than Bernie Bro thinkpieces to bridge the massive gap between her and Sanders among young women.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
16. Just from posting around here I know this part is true
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:04 PM
Feb 2016
Emily Ratajkowski found the internet to be no kinder to a woman who supports Bernie Sanders than it is to a woman who supports Hillary Clinton.

The Hill sisses can be very uncivil when it suits them, but they cling to the Berniebro meme.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
17. We've had our feminist cred questioned from the moment we announced we supported Bernie.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

There was an op last year that said a vote for Bernie is a vote for white male rule.

Somehow we're less than equal if we don't do what's expected of us.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
19. Bernie = white male rule?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:12 PM
Feb 2016

Jeez, that person either lives in some alternate universe or has an agenda. My guess would be the latter.

However, it was a woman who told me I'm going to hell for voting for Bernie. go figure.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
23. Correct, it was the latter.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

And it speaks to a pattern among her female supporters, Steinem and Albright just encouraged more of the same.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
5. People have been trained to use social media for purposes of silencing anything outside...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:50 PM
Feb 2016

...the accepted norm. This is no surprise. It's not unbreakable, but it takes very strong people to work around it's quietly-hidden boundaries and barriers. The amount of censoring done online would stagger most people who don't actively follow it. It always amazes me how few Redditors to this day understand how brigading, shadowbanning, and all the other censorship techniques on there work.

I rather think this was actually the intent of social media all along, and the Arab Spring was its testing ground.

Now that everyone is seeing the group labelling structure being used for its actual, intended purpose, they aren't liking it anymore. It's almost kind of amusing in a sad, sick way, having been on the 'out' side of the whole thing for so long, but at the same time it's not amusing at all because it's real pain that real people feel when this happens.

However, being fair to our Hillary campaign friends, it is also possible that this is being done by third party paid trolls. There are thousands of companies, the world over, who pay people to do those sorts of things. Some of them are even run by former CIA operatives.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
9. They are following the lead of Clinton's top surrogates, like Madeleine Albright
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:57 PM
Feb 2016

Starkly different than how the Sanders campaign has behaved.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
26. +1. And who said some Clinton supporters
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

were lacking in enthusiasm? Way to narrow the gap, anyway.

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
18. i think most of the people on this thread are missing the point
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

The people bashing her were a bunch of misogynistic jerks who didn't think a woman they liked to jerk off to should open her mouth and have an opinion. Some were republicans but no Hillary supporters. Basically just saying there are an astounding amount of assholes on the net.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
28. I think you're missing the point.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:52 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie's supporters have been blamed for this kind of behaviour for months, exclusively.

The tweets from Hillary supporters prove it's not limited to one group.

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
50. i didnt read every comment
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:58 AM
Feb 2016

Couldn't stomach it. But all the ones I read were along the lines of shut up and show us your tits, how dare you have an opinion. She would have got the exact same comments from the exact same people if she'd supported Hilary.

BTW I have never bought into the ridiculous Bernie bro meme either.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
36. Wrong and some of that crap has happened here on the old DU
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:14 PM
Feb 2016

or off site, done by well known HRC supporters from here.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
33. BREAKING NEWS: INTERNET TROLLS CAN BE MEAN!!!!
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:10 PM
Feb 2016

Funny how this is only a story when it can be used to smear Sanders.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
37. Wow, what a surprise that Hillary supporters can be mean on social media.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:18 PM
Feb 2016

I thought only Bernie supporters can be mean on social media.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
42. This unfortunately happens to a lot of women
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:05 PM
Feb 2016

I don't see that you can say it's related to her supporting Sanders. Online trolls like attacking women. It happens to women in all sorts of professions.

One of those vile responses said anything about Clinton. The rest were unfortunately run of the mill assholes.

http://www.psmag.com/health-and-behavior/women-arent-welcome-internet-72170

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
43. There is a powerful technique for preventing social media from silencing you.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:32 PM
Feb 2016

Don't use social media. It's always worked for me.

What do people say about me on Facebook? I don't know. I don't care. I don't go to Facebook.

See. That's easy.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
44. Note: sarcastic undertones
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:11 PM
Feb 2016

shut up and look pretty
Vote for our Hillary


Because she will really take that foamy hand, wag her finger at the bankers and say "cut it out!"

ecstatic

(32,707 posts)
46. The nasty comments were from Republican men, many of them the same Trump
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:25 PM
Feb 2016

supporters that Sanders is courting.

You can't pin this on Hillary fans. Nice try though. As has been pointed out repeatedly, Hillary supporters are older and actually democrats. BernieBros consist of many young repubs and libertarians who aren't particularly interested in identity politics or political correctness.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
47. a bunch of ugly/sexist remarks
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:32 PM
Feb 2016

"I'm a dumb c**t who has never picked up a book on economics - vote with me!"

Really?!?! So progressive and feminist of them. Disgusting.

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