2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGod dammit, SAY their NAMES!
Willam Moore
Rev. Bruce Klunder
Andrew Goodman
Michael Schwerner
Rev. James Reeb
Viola Liuzzo
Jonathan Daniels
Just a few of the white people killed fighting for civil rights for African Americans.
Bernie Sanders wasn't killed, he was only beaten and jailed. That is a matter of record. But he was in the fight. The Swiftboating of Sanders reaches new depths of depravity, even by Clinton standards. Hillary was campaigning for Barry Fucking Goldwater at the time, a vocal opponant of the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act. Jesus fucking Christ, this is a repeat of AWOL Bush saying Kerry lied about his record...worse, though, because it's Democrats doing it. I am stunned at the depths of Clinton depravity.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)While demonstrating for desegregated schools.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)the OP was referring to the lady who slapped him for voting for Jesse Jackson.
But no one would compare that with the beatings that people actually took for the cause of civil rights, would they?
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...but really, who slaps someone these days?
Squinch
(50,955 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)It helps to be knowledgeable on the facts rather than opposing campaign pablum.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)she is destroying her own future and with that....
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)What do you know?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)He supported her in the past.
Enough said.
jillan
(39,451 posts)mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)Problem is that was so commonplace few people really bothered to complain about it.
Sanders hasn't mentioned it so it probably didn't happen but after all those guys and girls were killed something like that probably wasn't even mentioned.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Would seem like pandering and he's a good guy. It's enough to say he was jailed. This should be sending up alarm bells all up and down any organization supporting Black History. That she was for Goldwater and Bernie was getting jailed. Like hello something is smelling worse than Iowa right now and it's coming from the oddest places
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)and usually to the head. Watch video of the 1968 convention. I was lucky to have been knocked out and the police just continued grabbing others. If arrested he would have had some bruises at least. Ask anyone of that time.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)middle of the night or had weights tied to them and thrown in lakes. Whites back then used to take the back of the protest march so that the people would attach us first instead of the "communist outside agitators".
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Response to arely staircase (Reply #16)
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D Gary Grady
(133 posts)Lots of us did dumb things in high school.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)It doesn't seem plausible that he did meet them in that time period and he didn't quite say that he did but if he didn't then why did he mention meeting the Clintons?
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)I supported some idiot called Bill Clinton. When I was 16 I saw him in LaCrosse WI in 1992. so yeah we do dumb things at that age
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)I don't see how Hillary can hope to win the general election if she gets there. Bain Capital and now this? What does she stand for?
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)But if she had been 6 when she was wearing a Goldwater button, we'd still be all over her for that.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)That's really what everyone wants to know, when did they meet? Lewis gave the implication he met both Clintons between 1963 and 1966 but he didn't flatly say that.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)job in politics. So mid 70's.
I don't know why you thought it would have been a decade earlier, when Bill and Hillary were still in college. But they've been friends for many decades.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)It just seems an odd thing to say when it's documented that he didn't meet them in the 1963-66 period.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)during the years when Bernie was active in the Civil Rights movement. But then Bernie went up to Vermont and got involved in Vermont politics.
The Clintons were younger than Bernie, and they both went to law school after college, so their work in civil rights began later than his. But they met John Lewis in the 70's, and they continued their friendship and their work in civil rights through the decades.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)"No good deed goes unpunished."
It's not Mrs. Clinton, or Democrats that disappointment US. It is the equal ownership of a race to the bottom amoung both parties.
Move On or move out of the way is my message to those that doubt "for the times they are a changing".
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Using the same playbook with "Sanders" substituted for "Obama"?
Hope so. Worked so well the last time.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)She was in high fucking school then.
I was an active Young Republican, and, later, a Goldwater girl, right down to my cowgirl outfit and straw cowboy hat emblazoned with the slogan "AuH2O."
My ninth-grade history teacher, Paul Carlon, was, and still is, a dedicated educator and very conservative Republican. Mr. Carlson encouraged me to read Senator Barry Goldwater's recently published book, The Conscience of a Conservative. That inspired me to write my term paper on the American conservative movement ... I liked Senator Goldwater because he was a rugged individualist who swam against the political tide.
Hillary Clinton didn't last long on that side of the political spectrum, however, reporting that "By the time I was a college junior, I had gone from being a Goldwater Girl to supporting the [1968] anti-war campaign of Eugene McCarthy."
I also supported Gene McCarthy in 1968. I had just gotten home from Vietnam. Neither I nor Hillary were political in high school. She is two years younger than me.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Hillary is using Rove's playbook to win win WIN at all costs.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)written in Sept 2015 .za? Zambia maybe don't know.
http://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/opinion/bikos-legacy-more-relevant-than-ever-1910325
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I don't think it's helpful in trying to win over black voters by co-opting the 'Say their Names' verbiage for use with white people. I think a different OP title might cause less unnecessary friction with AA readers.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...since it was a Black Civil Rights leader who was the face of the smear job.
Bernie didn't play a big leadership role. That job had to naturally fall to Black leaders like Dr. King and Rep. Lewis. But Rep. Lewis's dismissal of Sen Sanders contribution, even implying he wasn't involved, is just a slap in the face to the many white people who were foot-soldiers and local organizers of the movement...not to mention pissing on the graves of those who gave their lives. Yes, I'm pissed. Hopefully Rep Lewis reflects a bit upon his comments and feels ashamed. I doubt the Clintons feel any shame.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)What fresh hell is this?
fbc
(1,668 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)floppy.
Sienna86
(2,149 posts)Really can't believe what the Clinton group does to these people. In 2008 also.
I respect Lewis from r his Civil Rights work. But to be blindly beholden to the Clintons is questionable.
senz
(11,945 posts)And that's how Hillary thinks she'll win the nomination?
Hmm.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)That everything will be great again. 3rd Way all the way! Loyalty to party, right or wrong!!