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HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:16 PM Feb 2016

God dammit, SAY their NAMES!

Willam Moore
Rev. Bruce Klunder
Andrew Goodman
Michael Schwerner
Rev. James Reeb
Viola Liuzzo
Jonathan Daniels

Just a few of the white people killed fighting for civil rights for African Americans.

Bernie Sanders wasn't killed, he was only beaten and jailed. That is a matter of record. But he was in the fight. The Swiftboating of Sanders reaches new depths of depravity, even by Clinton standards. Hillary was campaigning for Barry Fucking Goldwater at the time, a vocal opponant of the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act. Jesus fucking Christ, this is a repeat of AWOL Bush saying Kerry lied about his record...worse, though, because it's Democrats doing it. I am stunned at the depths of Clinton depravity.

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God dammit, SAY their NAMES! (Original Post) HooptieWagon Feb 2016 OP
When was he beaten and jailed? Squinch Feb 2016 #1
Don't know if he was beaten, but he was jailed in the 60s protesting for a desegregated U of Chicago HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #4
Beaten is not documented. Arrested is though: TCJ70 Feb 2016 #5
So it isn't a matter of record that he was beaten? I never heard of it. I was wondering if Squinch Feb 2016 #10
No, and I wouldn't condone that if they did... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #11
Snitty racist ladies. Squinch Feb 2016 #12
You should learn more about him and the era, what he was doing before and afer being jailed Dragonfli Feb 2016 #13
Depravity is right. We won't be fooled. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #2
this about says it all: shanti Feb 2016 #23
The Clinton Machine lays waste to the most energized part of the Democratic base SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #3
Is John Lewis part of that machine? 11 Bravo Feb 2016 #6
I do not know! SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #8
He joined today Armstead Feb 2016 #9
Yes...and it would seem kind of sad but... SoapBox Feb 2016 #19
I don't think he was beaten? But he was thrown in jail. jillan Feb 2016 #7
Actually, if it was Chicago and he was protesting segregation odds were he was beaten. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #20
Why would he use it anyway. PatrynXX Feb 2016 #29
Man in those days if you were thrown in jail you had at least had several blows to the stomach LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #14
Great People. There are many more who did not make the lists, who were buried in the LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #15
Beaten? Link? Or is this like the fake union members scandal? nt arely staircase Feb 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #17
Hillary was 16 during the Goldwater campaign D Gary Grady Feb 2016 #18
The question is did John Lewis meet either Hilllary or Bill between 1963 and 1966? Fumesucker Feb 2016 #30
This Lewis anecdote says, he had heard of Bill, but didn't meet him until 1991. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #37
yeah when I was 16 PatrynXX Feb 2016 #31
K&R liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #21
Righteous Anger Hooptie jalan48 Feb 2016 #22
Hillary was a 16 year old high school student when she was campaigning for Goldwater. pnwmom Feb 2016 #24
So when did Hillary meet John Lewis? Fumesucker Feb 2016 #32
Bill Clinton said in 2000 that they met when he was 29, before he got his first pnwmom Feb 2016 #38
I happen to know that, I was wondering why Lewis mentioned meeting them in the statement... Fumesucker Feb 2016 #39
Why was it odd? I just thought he was saying that he never met or saw Bernie pnwmom Feb 2016 #41
Have you ever wondered what the definition of "is" is? Fumesucker Feb 2016 #44
Sure. I read Sartre in college. n/t pnwmom Feb 2016 #47
I'm also stunned. saidsimplesimon Feb 2016 #25
Wait a week and we will hear about his "radical education". Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #26
Yes, as happened to Obama in 2008. senz Feb 2016 #48
Hillary never campaigned for Barry fucking anyone. upaloopa Feb 2016 #27
The Politics of Rove: Take an opponent's strength and turn it into a weakness. NightWatcher Feb 2016 #28
Scorched earth in Feb will assure her a loss in Nov. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #43
a pro Biko link mentions Bernie Sanders PatrynXX Feb 2016 #33
While I understand the gist of this post Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #34
The shock value of the title is intentional.... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #42
oh goody. a race war in DU SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2016 #35
I am never stunned by how low the Clintons will sink fbc Feb 2016 #36
And Bernie's judgment was sterling even back then, while Hillary's was, well, valerief Feb 2016 #40
Why would someone go this low? Is age a factor? Sienna86 Feb 2016 #45
You are right, HooptieWagon. They are now SWIFTBOATING Senator Sanders. senz Feb 2016 #46
Apparently they think that if they destroy Bernie and the rest of us Hydra Feb 2016 #49
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
4. Don't know if he was beaten, but he was jailed in the 60s protesting for a desegregated U of Chicago
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
10. So it isn't a matter of record that he was beaten? I never heard of it. I was wondering if
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:31 PM
Feb 2016

the OP was referring to the lady who slapped him for voting for Jesse Jackson.

But no one would compare that with the beatings that people actually took for the cause of civil rights, would they?

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
13. You should learn more about him and the era, what he was doing before and afer being jailed
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:38 PM
Feb 2016
http://time.com/3896500/bernie-sanders-vermont-campaign-radical/

It helps to be knowledgeable on the facts rather than opposing campaign pablum.
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
3. The Clinton Machine lays waste to the most energized part of the Democratic base
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:25 PM
Feb 2016

she is destroying her own future and with that....

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
20. Actually, if it was Chicago and he was protesting segregation odds were he was beaten.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

Problem is that was so commonplace few people really bothered to complain about it.

Sanders hasn't mentioned it so it probably didn't happen but after all those guys and girls were killed something like that probably wasn't even mentioned.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
29. Why would he use it anyway.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:51 PM
Feb 2016

Would seem like pandering and he's a good guy. It's enough to say he was jailed. This should be sending up alarm bells all up and down any organization supporting Black History. That she was for Goldwater and Bernie was getting jailed. Like hello something is smelling worse than Iowa right now and it's coming from the oddest places

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
14. Man in those days if you were thrown in jail you had at least had several blows to the stomach
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

and usually to the head. Watch video of the 1968 convention. I was lucky to have been knocked out and the police just continued grabbing others. If arrested he would have had some bruises at least. Ask anyone of that time.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
15. Great People. There are many more who did not make the lists, who were buried in the
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:23 PM
Feb 2016

middle of the night or had weights tied to them and thrown in lakes. Whites back then used to take the back of the protest march so that the people would attach us first instead of the "communist outside agitators".

Response to arely staircase (Reply #16)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
30. The question is did John Lewis meet either Hilllary or Bill between 1963 and 1966?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:53 PM
Feb 2016

It doesn't seem plausible that he did meet them in that time period and he didn't quite say that he did but if he didn't then why did he mention meeting the Clintons?

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
31. yeah when I was 16
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:53 PM
Feb 2016

I supported some idiot called Bill Clinton. When I was 16 I saw him in LaCrosse WI in 1992. so yeah we do dumb things at that age

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
22. Righteous Anger Hooptie
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

I don't see how Hillary can hope to win the general election if she gets there. Bain Capital and now this? What does she stand for?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
24. Hillary was a 16 year old high school student when she was campaigning for Goldwater.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:45 PM
Feb 2016

But if she had been 6 when she was wearing a Goldwater button, we'd still be all over her for that.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
32. So when did Hillary meet John Lewis?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:55 PM
Feb 2016

That's really what everyone wants to know, when did they meet? Lewis gave the implication he met both Clintons between 1963 and 1966 but he didn't flatly say that.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
38. Bill Clinton said in 2000 that they met when he was 29, before he got his first
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:59 PM
Feb 2016

job in politics. So mid 70's.

I don't know why you thought it would have been a decade earlier, when Bill and Hillary were still in college. But they've been friends for many decades.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
39. I happen to know that, I was wondering why Lewis mentioned meeting them in the statement...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:01 PM
Feb 2016

It just seems an odd thing to say when it's documented that he didn't meet them in the 1963-66 period.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
41. Why was it odd? I just thought he was saying that he never met or saw Bernie
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:08 PM
Feb 2016

during the years when Bernie was active in the Civil Rights movement. But then Bernie went up to Vermont and got involved in Vermont politics.

The Clintons were younger than Bernie, and they both went to law school after college, so their work in civil rights began later than his. But they met John Lewis in the 70's, and they continued their friendship and their work in civil rights through the decades.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
25. I'm also stunned.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

"No good deed goes unpunished."

It's not Mrs. Clinton, or Democrats that disappointment US. It is the equal ownership of a race to the bottom amoung both parties.

Move On or move out of the way is my message to those that doubt "for the times they are a changing".



 

senz

(11,945 posts)
48. Yes, as happened to Obama in 2008.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:27 PM
Feb 2016

Using the same playbook with "Sanders" substituted for "Obama"?

Hope so. Worked so well the last time.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
27. Hillary never campaigned for Barry fucking anyone.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

She was in high fucking school then.


I was an active Young Republican, and, later, a Goldwater girl, right down to my cowgirl outfit and straw cowboy hat emblazoned with the slogan "AuH2O."

My ninth-grade history teacher, Paul Carlon, was, and still is, a dedicated educator and very conservative Republican. Mr. Carlson encouraged me to read Senator Barry Goldwater's recently published book, The Conscience of a Conservative. That inspired me to write my term paper on the American conservative movement ... I liked Senator Goldwater because he was a rugged individualist who swam against the political tide.

Hillary Clinton didn't last long on that side of the political spectrum, however, reporting that "By the time I was a college junior, I had gone from being a Goldwater Girl to supporting the [1968] anti-war campaign of Eugene McCarthy."


I also supported Gene McCarthy in 1968. I had just gotten home from Vietnam. Neither I nor Hillary were political in high school. She is two years younger than me.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
28. The Politics of Rove: Take an opponent's strength and turn it into a weakness.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:50 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary is using Rove's playbook to win win WIN at all costs.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
34. While I understand the gist of this post
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

I don't think it's helpful in trying to win over black voters by co-opting the 'Say their Names' verbiage for use with white people. I think a different OP title might cause less unnecessary friction with AA readers.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
42. The shock value of the title is intentional....
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:11 PM
Feb 2016

...since it was a Black Civil Rights leader who was the face of the smear job.
Bernie didn't play a big leadership role. That job had to naturally fall to Black leaders like Dr. King and Rep. Lewis. But Rep. Lewis's dismissal of Sen Sanders contribution, even implying he wasn't involved, is just a slap in the face to the many white people who were foot-soldiers and local organizers of the movement...not to mention pissing on the graves of those who gave their lives. Yes, I'm pissed. Hopefully Rep Lewis reflects a bit upon his comments and feels ashamed. I doubt the Clintons feel any shame.

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
45. Why would someone go this low? Is age a factor?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016

Really can't believe what the Clinton group does to these people. In 2008 also.
I respect Lewis from r his Civil Rights work. But to be blindly beholden to the Clintons is questionable.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
46. You are right, HooptieWagon. They are now SWIFTBOATING Senator Sanders.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:21 PM
Feb 2016

And that's how Hillary thinks she'll win the nomination?

Hmm.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
49. Apparently they think that if they destroy Bernie and the rest of us
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:50 PM
Feb 2016

That everything will be great again. 3rd Way all the way! Loyalty to party, right or wrong!!

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