2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAcknowledged...Bernie hurts down ticket candidates
I've been saying this for months.
Comes buried in an article where Rep Lewis thinks Bernie's Civil rights marching or sit ins has amounted to nothing, and has not actually done anything to promote civil rights.
http://www.wsbtv.com/ap/ap/top-news/john-lewis-on-sanders-civil-rights-work-never-saw-/nqNhw/
In a swipe at Sanders, Rep. G.K. Butterfield, D-N.C., chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, said the country needs a president "who doesn't simply campaign and promise wonderful things, things that are politically impossible to achieve."
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Stop the press!
Bryant
yourout
(7,531 posts)If Hillary is the nominee you can kiss the young vote goodbye and THAT means a down ticket blood bath.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Also saying women just support Sanders to meet guys. Is that how to win?
Wilms
(26,795 posts)As an aside I'll mention Tony Podesta's ex-wife's firm...
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00027035
Have a look here:
Representative G.K. Butterfield (D-NC 1st)
Political Action Committee Contributions: 2015-2016 Campaign Cycle
Total 2015-2016 campaign contributions: $362,683
ADVANCED MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $500
DIAGEO NORTH AMERICA, INC. EMPLOYEES' POLITICAL PARTICIPATION COMMITTEE $902
CHARTER COMMUNICATIONS INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
AMERICAN SOYBEAN ASSOCIATION PAC (SOYPAC) $1000
PHARMAVITE LLC POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (PHARMAVITE PAC) $1000
BRIDGESTONE AMERICAS INC. PAC $1000
ALTRIA GROUP, INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (ALTRIAPAC) $1000
DTE ENERGY CO. PAC - FEDERAL $1000
AMERICAN BANKERS ASSOCIATION PAC (BANKPAC) $1000
NAVIENT CORPORATION PAC (NAVIENT PAC) $1000
DRINKER BIDDLE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
DELTA DENTAL PLANS ASSOCIATION PAC $1000
GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (GEPAC) $1000
AMERICAN PODIATRIC MEDICAL ASSOCIATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
INTEL CORPORATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
GENERAL MOTORS COMPANY POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (GM PAC) $1000
NORTH CAROLINA SOYBEAN PRODUCERS ASSOCIATION NC SOYPAC $1000
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF BOILERMAKERS CAMPAIGN ASSISTANCE FUND $1000
STATE FARM MUTUAL AUTOMOBILE INSURANCE COMPANY FEDERAL POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS ACTION FUND $1000
UNITED STATES TELECOM ASSOCIATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (TELECOMPAC) $1000
HOSPIRA INC PAC LLC $1000
MACANDREWS & FORBES INCORPORATED POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (MAFPAC) $1000
NATIONWIDE MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY FINANCIAL & INVESTMENTS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
GENESEE & WYOMING INC. PAC $1000
AMERICAN ACADEMY OF NEUROLOGY BRAINPAC $1000
SECURITIES INDUSTRY AND FINANCIAL MARKETS ASSOCIATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
E.I. DU PONT DE NEMOURS COMPANY GOOD GOVERNMENT FUND (DUPONT GOOD GOVERNMENT FUND) $1000
OFFICE OF THE COMMISSIONER OF MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
SIERRA NEVADA CORPORATION PAC $1000
CAMPBELL SOUP COMPANY PAC CAMPBELL PAC $1000
PHARMACEUTICAL RESEARCH & MANUFACTURERS OF AMERICA BETTER GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE $1000
HARDWOOD FEDERATION-PAC INC $1000
MONDELEZ INTERNATIONAL, INC. PAC $1000
TIME WARNER CABLE INC. FEDERAL POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
CROP INSURANCE PROFESSIONALS ASSOCIATION PAC-CIPA PAC $1000
ACCENTURE INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
DOMINION RESOURCES, INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE - DOMINION PAC $1000
RITE AID CORPORATION PAC $1000
NUCOR CORPORATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
NOVO NORDISK INC. PAC (NOVO NORDISK PAC) $1000
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SPRINT CORPORATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
CTIA - THE WIRELESS ASSOCIATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
NEA FUND FOR CHILDREN AND PUBLIC EDUCATION $1000
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FOOD MARKETING INSTITUTE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE FOODPAC $1000
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CORPORATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE ('BSC PAC') $1000
RENEWABLE FUELS ASSOCIATION PAC (RENEWABLE FUELS PAC) $1000
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
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VIACOM INTERNATIONAL, INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1000
THE COCA-COLA COMPANY NONPARTISAN COMMITTEE FOR GOOD GOVERNMENT $1000
BIOMARIN PHARMACEUTICAL INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE AKA BIOMARIN PAC $1000
POWER POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE OF ENERGY FUTURE HOLDINGS CORP. $1000
CLARKE FOR CONGRESS $1400
CLOROX COMPANY POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE; THE (CLORPAC) $1500
T-MOBILE USA, INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (T-PAC) $1500
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BROADCASTERS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (NABPAC) $1500
THE GOLDMAN SACHS GROUP, INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1500
TIME WARNER INC. PAC $1500
LABORATORY CORPORATION OF AMERICA HOLDINGS POLITICAL PARTICIPATION COMMITTEE $1500
GRIDIRON-PAC $1500
AMERICAN FOREST & PAPER ASSOCIATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1500
ABBVIE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $2000
THE KRAFT HEINZ COMPANY POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (HEINZPAC) $2000
AMERICAN HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION PAC $2000
BAYER CORPORATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $2000
HUNTINGTON INGALLS INDUSTRIES POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTE (SHIPPAC) $2000
NATIONAL COMMUNITY PHARMACISTS ASSOCIATION - PAC $2000
NATIONAL GROCERS ASSOCIATION GROCERS PAC $2000
CARDINAL HEALTH INC. PAC AKA CARDINAL HEALTH COMPANIES PAC $2000
WESTROCK POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $2000
ANHEUSER-BUSCH COMPANIES INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $2000
WASHINGTON GAS LIGHT COMPANY PAC $2000
ENTERGY CORPORATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (ENPAC) $2000
LOWE'S COMPANIES, INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $2000
COMCAST CORPORATION & NBCUNIVERSAL POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE - FEDERAL $2000
THE BOEING COMPANY POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $2000
AMERICAN NURSES ASSOCIATION PAC $2000
VERIZON COMMUNICATIONS INC. GOOD GOVERNMENT CLUB (VERIZON PAC) $2000
BECTON, DICKINSON AND COMPANY PAC $2000
IHEARTMEDIA, INC. - CLEAR CHANNEL OUTDOOR PAC $2000
K&L GATES LLP POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (DC) $2000
AFLAC POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (AFLAC PAC) $2000
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CULAC THE PAC OF CREDIT UNION NATIONAL ASSOCIATION $2000
SMITH AND NEPHEW INC PAC $2000
BIOTECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY ORGANIZATION PAC (BIO PAC) $2000
COLLEGE OF AMERICAN PATHOLOGISTS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $2000
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WELLS FARGO AND COMPANY EMPLOYEE PAC (AKA WELLS FARGO EMPLOYEE PAC) $2000
DAVITA HEALTHCARE PARTNERS, INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (DAPAC) $2000
SEAFARERS POLITICAL ACTIVITY DONATION - SEAFARERS INTERNATIONAL UNION OF NA-AGLIWD/NMU $2200
PEPSICO, INC. CONCERNED CITIZENS FUND $2500
AMERICAN SOCIETY OF HEALTH SYSTEM PHARMACIST - PAC $2500
WALGREEN CO PAC $2500
MERCK & CO., INC., EMPLOYEES POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (MERCK PAC) $2500
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TEVA PHARMACEUTICALS USA, INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $2500
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LAND O'LAKES, INC., PAC $2500
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NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CHAIN DRUG STORES, INC. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $2500
MONSANTO COMPANY CITIZENSHIP FUND AKA MONSANTO CITIZENSHIP FUND $2500
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KELLOGG COMPANY BETTER GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE $2500
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NATIONAL CABLE AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS ASSOCIATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (NCTA PAC) $3000
GENERAL DYNAMICS CORPORATION POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (GDC PAC) $3000
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GOOGLE INC. NETPAC $3500
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BASF CORPORATION EMPLOYEES POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $4000
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MACHINISTS NON PARTISAN POLITICAL LEAGUE OF THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MACHINISTS & $5000
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yourout
(7,531 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)And I posted the contributions Rep. G.K. Butterfield gets in order to point out some of the constituents he represents.
yourout
(7,531 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)all of the people he brought out aren't just going to mark his name and no one else. This is nonsense.
seaotter
(576 posts)The increased turnout may just as easily do the opposite. This is very different election than 2008.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Stallion
(6,476 posts)....that know that a Sanders nomination would likely hurt their prospects. Yeah the Establishment-the actual Democrats who represent us. In fact even in New Hampshire registered Democrats were split 49-49% and only 54% of the Democratic electorate were actual registered Democrats. I'll side with the Democrats
frylock
(34,825 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)What a nasty pathetic claim to make
frylock
(34,825 posts)is he immune from criticism?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)If there is any stupidity going on, it's the pathetic swarming when someone supports Hillary. Opposition to Bernie is not to tolerated!
It hillarious that we have some BS supporters here on DU that claim there is no anti Bernie rhetoric...you just proved them a liar.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Lets see, all the crystal ball gazing to this point by anti-Bernie posters has proven to suck, so why should anyone believe anything else from the anti-Bernies?
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)good work
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Turnout among the young is of critical importance in downticket races.
Sanders brings 'em, Clinton alienates 'em.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)It implies that there's some evidence Bernie hurts down ticket candidates, but the linked article merely states an opinion.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Hillary guarantees.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)He supported civil rights and was arrested for his participation at a time when it was unusual for a white man to do so. He supported equality for Gay Americans in the 1970's when almost no one was doing so except gay people. As a politician, he has made very unpopular votes at the time that turned out later to be the right thing to do. He does not test the political winds or have focus groups to decide his position on the issues.
And, he does not give up on something just because it is hard to do, that's what his opponent does!
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts).
Things really get going after the 7 min. mark, where this is mentioned...
Dissing MLK, Jessie Jackson, Rev. Wright, favoring McCain over Obama, etc., and her allusion to assassination.
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elleng
(130,974 posts)a/k/a
Shandris
(3,447 posts)What has our ticket presently accomplished? Has YOUR real income gone up? Has most of the nation's? Are you better off now than you were 10, 20, 30 years ago? No? Then perhaps the same old people and the same old strategies are the problem. Guess we'll just have to find out, because doing the same thing is the literal definition of insanity.
The Establishment is scared. Last I checked, that was the sign of doing something right, not wrong. They've begun to believe in the myth of their own divinity, but power is where people believe it is. It's about damn time they remember that they had it all along.
Probably would have been wiser to let people know they were only teasing about all the projects we were supposed to believe in; we made the mistake of actually believing in them, and now the Establishment will be replaced for failing to deliver for 50+ years. What was that saying from Young Guns? Something about a whirlwind?
((*It should be noted, for both the easily offended and those who don't read my lingo style well, that my YG reference is to the LINE ONLY and in absolutely no way, subliminal or otherwise, is it to be construed as supporting or making a call to violence.))
kath
(10,565 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Because this time, their strategy that has utterly and completely failed, will work.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)She seems to have done swimmingly on the front for several years but I don't see a lot of complaints on that from those who would push the opinion in this post.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I do see how trashing every group of democratic voters if they don't hail queen Hillary does hurt down ticket, however.
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)I'll take my chances on trying something new.
As others have said, we have tried "your way" (establishment 3rd way candidates) and it has gotten us in the current state of a terrible economy and an electorate that is completely fed up with the status quo.
We would be insane to NOT try something new.
I'm with Bernie
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)2008 was a "wave" election, and Obama brought the Senate and House with him.
If this isn't a wave election, Bernie won't beat Hillary and the point is mute.