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Autumn

(45,106 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:58 PM Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton’s Congressional Black Caucus PAC Endorsement Approved By Board Awash in Lobbyists

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/11/congressional-black-caucus-hillary/

Some of the members who spoke at the event, held at the Democratic National Committee headquarters, anticipated the same kind of criticism that the Sanders campaign has made of some other Washington-based leadership groups that have endorsed Clinton. “We are not from the establishment, we are from the streets,” said Rep. Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.

But the Congressional Black Caucus PAC is not the same thing as the Congressional Black Caucus, which is made up of 46 members of Congress. Indeed, Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., a Sanders supporter, made that point on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697809288203522048

Ellison then said in another tweet that “endorsements should be the product of a fair open process. Didn’t happen.”

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697826640731246593

Ben Branch, the executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus PAC told The Intercept that his group made the decision after a vote from its 20-member board. The board includes 11 lobbyists, seven elected officials, and two officials who work for the PAC. Branch confirmed that the lobbyists were involved in the endorsement, but would not go into detail about the process.
Members of the CBC PAC board include Daron Watts, a lobbyist for Purdue Pharma, the makers of highly addictive opioid OxyContin; Mike Mckay and Chaka Burgess, both lobbyists for Navient, the student loan giant that was spun off of Sallie Mae; former Rep. Al Wynn, D-Md., a lobbyist who represents a range of clients, including work last year on behalf of Lorillard Tobacco, the makers of Newport cigarettes; and William A. Kirk, who lobbies for a cigar industry trade group on a range of tobacco regulations.

And a significant percentage of the $7,000 raised this cycle by the CBC PAC was donated by white lobbyists, including Vic Fazio, who represents Philip Morris and served for years as a lobbyist to Corrections Corporation of America, and David Adams, a former Clinton aide who now lobbies for Wal-Mart, the largest gun distributor in America.




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Hillary Clinton’s Congressional Black Caucus PAC Endorsement Approved By Board Awash in Lobbyists (Original Post) Autumn Feb 2016 OP
k/r AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #1
First Planned Parenthood, then the Human Rights Campaign and now kennetha Feb 2016 #2
Did you read the article and who some of the members of Autumn Feb 2016 #5
So Bernie Wouldn't take the endorsement... kennetha Feb 2016 #7
Well the CBC-PAC didn't offer it to Bernie so your point there is moot. Autumn Feb 2016 #9
you share this view of Obama? kennetha Feb 2016 #10
What's your standing to lecture about Human Rights Campaign and to deny my right to an opinion Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #24
I believe I detect just a touch of jealousy. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #18
Life is sweet when you live in the cookie jar. Kurovski Feb 2016 #3
Get the word out casperthegm Feb 2016 #4
Wow! Everyone needs to know this! dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #6
Once again the slimy, maggot ridden truth emerges from the darkness, bvar22 Feb 2016 #8
+100 nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #16
you realize most all of the members of the caucus itself will support Hillary bigtree Feb 2016 #11
I'm certain that many will eventually support her. My OP is about the Congressional Black Caucus PAC Autumn Feb 2016 #12
the point is about their endorsement? bigtree Feb 2016 #13
As I said the OP is about the CBC PAC nt Autumn Feb 2016 #14
A good conspiracy gets many through the day. boston bean Feb 2016 #15
Rep. Keith Ellison seems to think it's tainted. senz Feb 2016 #27
knr ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #17
^ Winner of providing information for the thread! ^ SoapBox Feb 2016 #23
.... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #38
And this is the point... mikehiggins Feb 2016 #19
K & R...thanks Autumn. SoapBox Feb 2016 #20
This flies in the face of what we think of as the CBC. It's a pro-Hillary PAC, less interested in senz Feb 2016 #21
I've been scrolling my FB feed. Every news story about it I add a comment to point out silvershadow Feb 2016 #22
^^^ This ^^^ senz Feb 2016 #31
You are welcome! I thought it should be pointed out. :D nt silvershadow Feb 2016 #33
Job protection fbc Feb 2016 #25
Almost all the members of the CBC had already made individual endorsements pnwmom Feb 2016 #26
And the entire CBC is marginalized to score a point. joshcryer Feb 2016 #28
How was it marginalized? Almost all of the members had already endorsed her. n/t pnwmom Feb 2016 #30
It is an attempt at marginalization. joshcryer Feb 2016 #32
What point Josh? The media is saying the CBC has endorsed Hillary when in fact the CBC PAC Autumn Feb 2016 #34
Amazing you couldn't make that distinction when PP's PAC endorsed. joshcryer Feb 2016 #36
Refresh my mind Josh and toss me a link to my posts about that? Autumn Feb 2016 #37
That's easy. You didn't make that distinction. joshcryer Feb 2016 #40
I am a host of the Bernie Sanders group, I don't rule it. Autumn Feb 2016 #42
So much for leadership. joshcryer Feb 2016 #43
You can always alert on any post in the Bernie group you don't like. Like I said I'm not a Autumn Feb 2016 #44
I only point out the hypocrisy. joshcryer Feb 2016 #45
It's quite telling that Hill supporters are JUST FINE with this. senz Feb 2016 #29
K & R. SixString Feb 2016 #35
It's about money. Wilms Feb 2016 #39
CBC-PAC's Board of Directors is majority lobbyists? HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #41
TOTALLY! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #50
Naturally the most corrupt people in America are African Americans and reproductive rights BainsBane Feb 2016 #46
they are people too, and subject to the same influences Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #48
kick Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #47
The corruption just can't help but ooze out Oilwellian Feb 2016 #49

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
2. First Planned Parenthood, then the Human Rights Campaign and now
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:02 PM
Feb 2016

the CBC PAC....

all in the take, all part of the establishment.

Anybody not with us is part of the problem.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
5. Did you read the article and who some of the members of
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:14 PM
Feb 2016

the CBC PAC are?

Members of the CBC PAC board include Daron Watts, a lobbyist for Purdue Pharma, the makers of highly addictive opioid OxyContin; Mike Mckay and Chaka Burgess, both lobbyists for Navient, the student loan giant that was spun off of Sallie Mae; former Rep. Al Wynn, D-Md., a lobbyist who represents a range of clients, including work last year on behalf of Lorillard Tobacco, the makers of Newport cigarettes; and William A. Kirk, who lobbies for a cigar industry trade group on a range of tobacco regulations.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
7. So Bernie Wouldn't take the endorsement...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:19 PM
Feb 2016

if they offered it to them right?

Maybe he can say that in the debate tonight.

Maybe he can explain why he'd rather have the endorsement of Cornel West who call Obama a Rockefeller Republican in Black Face and a a "niggerized" president?


Autumn

(45,106 posts)
9. Well the CBC-PAC didn't offer it to Bernie so your point there is moot.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:23 PM
Feb 2016

However I think Bernie and many others, myself included are rather proud of Dr. West's endorsement of Bernie. YMMV

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
24. What's your standing to lecture about Human Rights Campaign and to deny my right to an opinion
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:51 PM
Feb 2016

about their relative spot in the LGBT political. You seem to speak on the behalf of a great many groups as if they'd all elected you authority and I really don't get that approach. What's the trip?

casperthegm

(643 posts)
4. Get the word out
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:06 PM
Feb 2016

We are an extension of Bernie's campaign. Let's make sure that we are letting everyone know the truth, especially via social media.

And while we are at it, let's bring the issues back into focus. Yes, her campaign is slinging mud and her super pacs are running rampant, but if we simply compare the two candidates, head to head on the issues there is a clear winner. (which is probably why we are starting to see the kitchen sink)

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
8. Once again the slimy, maggot ridden truth emerges from the darkness,
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:21 PM
Feb 2016

and the Hillary Campaign gets another black eye.

Thank You, Keith Ellison and the other Truth Tellers.


This "endorsement" was the result of a vote among:

*11 Lobbyists

*two officials who work for the PAC

*7 elected officials who could easily be out voted by the Lobbyists.



This is NOT an endorsement to be proud of,
but typical for a Clinton Campaign.


DURec
and thanks for the post, Autumn.


bigtree

(85,998 posts)
11. you realize most all of the members of the caucus itself will support Hillary
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:41 PM
Feb 2016

...I'm not sure how convincing it is to quote one of maybe two members who haven't already indicated they're in Hillary's camp.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
12. I'm certain that many will eventually support her. My OP is about the Congressional Black Caucus PAC
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:44 PM
Feb 2016

not the Congressional Black Caucus.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
13. the point is about their endorsement?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:55 PM
Feb 2016

...you believe it's tainted by these donors?

My response would be as above. Whether you believe it's tainted, or not, the support it implies is certainly there, threefold at least. Most of the members have political or work conflict problems with officially endorsing right now.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
15. A good conspiracy gets many through the day.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:59 PM
Feb 2016

I'm a bit of a skeptical person but this stuff has me LMAO.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
27. Rep. Keith Ellison seems to think it's tainted.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:00 PM
Feb 2016


Rep. Ellison tweeted:

Cong'l Black Caucus (CBC) has NOT endorsed in presidential. Separate CBCPAC endorsed withOUT input from CBC membership, including me.


https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697809288203522048

He also said,

The point it that endorsements should be the product of a fair open process. Didn't happen.


https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697826640731246593

Got it?





slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
17. knr ...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:41 PM
Feb 2016

"... Ben Branch, the executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus PAC told The Intercept that his group made the decision after a vote from its 20-member board. The board includes 11 lobbyists, seven elected officials, and two officials who work for the PAC. Branch confirmed that the lobbyists were involved in the endorsement, but would not go into detail about the process.

Members of the CBC PAC board include Daron Watts, a lobbyist for Purdue Pharma, the makers of highly addictive opioid OxyContin; Mike Mckay and Chaka Burgess, both lobbyists for Navient, the student loan giant that was spun off of Sallie Mae; former Rep. Al Wynn, D-Md., a lobbyist who represents a range of clients, including work last year on behalf of Lorillard Tobacco, the makers of Newport cigarettes; and William A. Kirk, who lobbies for a cigar industry trade group on a range of tobacco regulations..."

CBC PAC Leadership

http://www.cbcpac.org/leadership



mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
19. And this is the point...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

first it was talking about praise from Kissinger.

now its support from a group dominated by lobbyists.

what is wrong? earlier someone was complaining that some kid dared tell Hillary that his friends just didn't trust her.

do you think that is an accident?

there is a history, like, ohh, pictures of Obama in a dashiki.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
20. K & R...thanks Autumn.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

It never fails to amaze me how persons and groups, hold a presser to announce something...which then brings TONS of scrutiny.

In so many cases, it doesn't take long to find out that the person or group...is full of shit. All kinds of crap in the background and going on behind the scenes.

I guess, when one (or a group) is Entrenched in the Beltway Bubble...that they are simply clueless that there is an entire universe beyond The Bubble.

Amazing.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
21. This flies in the face of what we think of as the CBC. It's a pro-Hillary PAC, less interested in
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:47 PM
Feb 2016

AAs than $$$.

Thank you, Autumn!

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
22. I've been scrolling my FB feed. Every news story about it I add a comment to point out
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

that this is a PAC full of lobbyists, and not the CBC. If anyone wants to join me in the effort, we should be able to tamp down this nonsense pretty quickly.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
26. Almost all the members of the CBC had already made individual endorsements
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:55 PM
Feb 2016

so the PAC board knew that when it made its endorsement.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
28. And the entire CBC is marginalized to score a point.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

It really is irrelevant the former or current positions of a PAC board members if it represents its group. More pathetic, hypocritical, paternalistic crap from supposed Sanders "supporters."

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
32. It is an attempt at marginalization.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:12 PM
Feb 2016

CBC PAC has lobbyists = CBC is establishment scum.

Basically guilt by association.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
34. What point Josh? The media is saying the CBC has endorsed Hillary when in fact the CBC PAC
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016

has endorsed Hillary. The Congressional Black Caucus PAC is not the same thing as the Congressional Black Caucus

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
37. Refresh my mind Josh and toss me a link to my posts about that?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:24 PM
Feb 2016

Take your time Josh I'll wait. And wait.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
40. That's easy. You didn't make that distinction.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:40 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128094177

On phone or I'd link your posts directly, but, really, how we know you didn't make the distinction is that, as host of the Sanders group, you allowed PP insulting posts to stand, and made no effort to stamp down the ignorance. None.

Show one post where you did.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
42. I am a host of the Bernie Sanders group, I don't rule it.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:56 PM
Feb 2016

I am not a dictator and I have no power to lock individual posts. The media reported PP had endorsed much like the media reported CBC had endorsed. The media did not qualify that it was the PACs that had endorsed. it took a bit for that to come out. The only posts I made were expressing disappointment on their first time ever endorsement before I found out it was the PAC after that I was done with that issue.

I'm not a fucking net nanny over others opinions.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
43. So much for leadership.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:12 PM
Feb 2016

Fact, whatever reprehensible opinions you allow in that group or that other site you help run reflects on you, whether you like it or not. Pleading ignorance about PPs PAC is a cop out and I can't find a single post of you making the distinction, defending PP.

But it's quaint. A PAC, ran by lobbyists and people with connections? Ooh my, what is the world coming to!

I stand with the CBC and their political action arm. I DISAGREE with their endorsement, but will work hard to get it after Sanders wins the nomination.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
44. You can always alert on any post in the Bernie group you don't like. Like I said I'm not a
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

fucking net nanny when it comes to other peoples posts or opinions. As for Jackpine there's no hidden rooms and I think it's a damn fine site anyone can read there anyone can sign up there. You want to discuss how you don't like what I do then we are done here. Bye

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
45. I only point out the hypocrisy.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:45 PM
Feb 2016

For what it's worth I'm glad you came out in support of Lewis today. We could use a lot more go examples like that. But then you go and post this crap. It's bullshit. It's easy to score internet points. No one is going to actually talk about why the CBC has a guy who worked for the tobacco lobby, for instance, but boy, evil tobacco companies! Proof of something, right?

Give me a break.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
41. CBC-PAC's Board of Directors is majority lobbyists?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:46 PM
Feb 2016

Well that certainly explains the Clinton endorsement. Pay to Play, Baby!

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
46. Naturally the most corrupt people in America are African Americans and reproductive rights
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:04 PM
Feb 2016

organizations, whereas the white male upper-middle class is the only Americans who are not sellouts to corporate America, especially the ones that take in six figure salaries from corporations.

This sounds just like the crap floated during Reconstruction during a short time period in which African Americans were the majority in the South Carolina legislature. http://www.thenation.com/article/rooted-reconstruction-first-wave-black-congressmen/

And of course it's perfectly acceptable for Bernie to hire people convinced of embezzling money from the Steel Workers Union or to host fundraisers where he helped raise hundreds of thousands from lobbyists and big banks. Just don't let any of the unsavory types benefit form the system that is meant to benefit Bernie and his supporters.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/index.html


God forbid there might be a few black people left in American not disgusted by the constant attacks on black activists and Civil Rights leaders. Make sure you do away with that by insisting that there is something illicit for the Black Caucus to participate in the same system that the rest of congress benefits from, including your own candidate.


Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
49. The corruption just can't help but ooze out
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:02 AM
Feb 2016

of all facets of our government and those who bought it.

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