2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton’s Congressional Black Caucus PAC Endorsement Approved By Board Awash in Lobbyists
Some of the members who spoke at the event, held at the Democratic National Committee headquarters, anticipated the same kind of criticism that the Sanders campaign has made of some other Washington-based leadership groups that have endorsed Clinton. We are not from the establishment, we are from the streets, said Rep. Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.
But the Congressional Black Caucus PAC is not the same thing as the Congressional Black Caucus, which is made up of 46 members of Congress. Indeed, Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., a Sanders supporter, made that point on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697809288203522048
Ellison then said in another tweet that endorsements should be the product of a fair open process. Didnt happen.
https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697826640731246593
Ben Branch, the executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus PAC told The Intercept that his group made the decision after a vote from its 20-member board. The board includes 11 lobbyists, seven elected officials, and two officials who work for the PAC. Branch confirmed that the lobbyists were involved in the endorsement, but would not go into detail about the process.
Members of the CBC PAC board include Daron Watts, a lobbyist for Purdue Pharma, the makers of highly addictive opioid OxyContin; Mike Mckay and Chaka Burgess, both lobbyists for Navient, the student loan giant that was spun off of Sallie Mae; former Rep. Al Wynn, D-Md., a lobbyist who represents a range of clients, including work last year on behalf of Lorillard Tobacco, the makers of Newport cigarettes; and William A. Kirk, who lobbies for a cigar industry trade group on a range of tobacco regulations.
And a significant percentage of the $7,000 raised this cycle by the CBC PAC was donated by white lobbyists, including Vic Fazio, who represents Philip Morris and served for years as a lobbyist to Corrections Corporation of America, and David Adams, a former Clinton aide who now lobbies for Wal-Mart, the largest gun distributor in America.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)kennetha
(3,666 posts)the CBC PAC....
all in the take, all part of the establishment.
Anybody not with us is part of the problem.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)the CBC PAC are?
kennetha
(3,666 posts)if they offered it to them right?
Maybe he can say that in the debate tonight.
Maybe he can explain why he'd rather have the endorsement of Cornel West who call Obama a Rockefeller Republican in Black Face and a a "niggerized" president?
Autumn
(45,106 posts)However I think Bernie and many others, myself included are rather proud of Dr. West's endorsement of Bernie. YMMV
kennetha
(3,666 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)about their relative spot in the LGBT political. You seem to speak on the behalf of a great many groups as if they'd all elected you authority and I really don't get that approach. What's the trip?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)"Jealousy causes wrinkles!"
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)? I'll work on it.
casperthegm
(643 posts)We are an extension of Bernie's campaign. Let's make sure that we are letting everyone know the truth, especially via social media.
And while we are at it, let's bring the issues back into focus. Yes, her campaign is slinging mud and her super pacs are running rampant, but if we simply compare the two candidates, head to head on the issues there is a clear winner. (which is probably why we are starting to see the kitchen sink)
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)and the Hillary Campaign gets another black eye.
Thank You, Keith Ellison and the other Truth Tellers.
This "endorsement" was the result of a vote among:
*11 Lobbyists
*two officials who work for the PAC
*7 elected officials who could easily be out voted by the Lobbyists.
This is NOT an endorsement to be proud of,
but typical for a Clinton Campaign.
DURec
and thanks for the post, Autumn.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)...I'm not sure how convincing it is to quote one of maybe two members who haven't already indicated they're in Hillary's camp.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)not the Congressional Black Caucus.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...you believe it's tainted by these donors?
My response would be as above. Whether you believe it's tainted, or not, the support it implies is certainly there, threefold at least. Most of the members have political or work conflict problems with officially endorsing right now.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)I'm a bit of a skeptical person but this stuff has me LMAO.
senz
(11,945 posts)Rep. Ellison tweeted:
https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697809288203522048
He also said,
https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/697826640731246593
Got it?
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)"... Ben Branch, the executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus PAC told The Intercept that his group made the decision after a vote from its 20-member board. The board includes 11 lobbyists, seven elected officials, and two officials who work for the PAC. Branch confirmed that the lobbyists were involved in the endorsement, but would not go into detail about the process.
Members of the CBC PAC board include Daron Watts, a lobbyist for Purdue Pharma, the makers of highly addictive opioid OxyContin; Mike Mckay and Chaka Burgess, both lobbyists for Navient, the student loan giant that was spun off of Sallie Mae; former Rep. Al Wynn, D-Md., a lobbyist who represents a range of clients, including work last year on behalf of Lorillard Tobacco, the makers of Newport cigarettes; and William A. Kirk, who lobbies for a cigar industry trade group on a range of tobacco regulations..."
CBC PAC Leadership
http://www.cbcpac.org/leadership
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)There it is!
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)first it was talking about praise from Kissinger.
now its support from a group dominated by lobbyists.
what is wrong? earlier someone was complaining that some kid dared tell Hillary that his friends just didn't trust her.
do you think that is an accident?
there is a history, like, ohh, pictures of Obama in a dashiki.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)It never fails to amaze me how persons and groups, hold a presser to announce something...which then brings TONS of scrutiny.
In so many cases, it doesn't take long to find out that the person or group...is full of shit. All kinds of crap in the background and going on behind the scenes.
I guess, when one (or a group) is Entrenched in the Beltway Bubble...that they are simply clueless that there is an entire universe beyond The Bubble.
Amazing.
senz
(11,945 posts)AAs than $$$.
Thank you, Autumn!
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)that this is a PAC full of lobbyists, and not the CBC. If anyone wants to join me in the effort, we should be able to tamp down this nonsense pretty quickly.
senz
(11,945 posts)Thank you, silvershadow.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)fbc
(1,668 posts)Got to keep that money flowin!
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)so the PAC board knew that when it made its endorsement.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)It really is irrelevant the former or current positions of a PAC board members if it represents its group. More pathetic, hypocritical, paternalistic crap from supposed Sanders "supporters."
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)CBC PAC has lobbyists = CBC is establishment scum.
Basically guilt by association.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)has endorsed Hillary. The Congressional Black Caucus PAC is not the same thing as the Congressional Black Caucus
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Autumn
(45,106 posts)Take your time Josh I'll wait. And wait.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)On phone or I'd link your posts directly, but, really, how we know you didn't make the distinction is that, as host of the Sanders group, you allowed PP insulting posts to stand, and made no effort to stamp down the ignorance. None.
Show one post where you did.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)I am not a dictator and I have no power to lock individual posts. The media reported PP had endorsed much like the media reported CBC had endorsed. The media did not qualify that it was the PACs that had endorsed. it took a bit for that to come out. The only posts I made were expressing disappointment on their first time ever endorsement before I found out it was the PAC after that I was done with that issue.
I'm not a fucking net nanny over others opinions.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Fact, whatever reprehensible opinions you allow in that group or that other site you help run reflects on you, whether you like it or not. Pleading ignorance about PPs PAC is a cop out and I can't find a single post of you making the distinction, defending PP.
But it's quaint. A PAC, ran by lobbyists and people with connections? Ooh my, what is the world coming to!
I stand with the CBC and their political action arm. I DISAGREE with their endorsement, but will work hard to get it after Sanders wins the nomination.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)fucking net nanny when it comes to other peoples posts or opinions. As for Jackpine there's no hidden rooms and I think it's a damn fine site anyone can read there anyone can sign up there. You want to discuss how you don't like what I do then we are done here. Bye
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)For what it's worth I'm glad you came out in support of Lewis today. We could use a lot more go examples like that. But then you go and post this crap. It's bullshit. It's easy to score internet points. No one is going to actually talk about why the CBC has a guy who worked for the tobacco lobby, for instance, but boy, evil tobacco companies! Proof of something, right?
Give me a break.
senz
(11,945 posts)SixString
(1,057 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)As usual.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Well that certainly explains the Clinton endorsement. Pay to Play, Baby!
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Corrupt is as corrupt does...
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)organizations, whereas the white male upper-middle class is the only Americans who are not sellouts to corporate America, especially the ones that take in six figure salaries from corporations.
This sounds just like the crap floated during Reconstruction during a short time period in which African Americans were the majority in the South Carolina legislature. http://www.thenation.com/article/rooted-reconstruction-first-wave-black-congressmen/
And of course it's perfectly acceptable for Bernie to hire people convinced of embezzling money from the Steel Workers Union or to host fundraisers where he helped raise hundreds of thousands from lobbyists and big banks. Just don't let any of the unsavory types benefit form the system that is meant to benefit Bernie and his supporters.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/index.html
God forbid there might be a few black people left in American not disgusted by the constant attacks on black activists and Civil Rights leaders. Make sure you do away with that by insisting that there is something illicit for the Black Caucus to participate in the same system that the rest of congress benefits from, including your own candidate.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)of all facets of our government and those who bought it.