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unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:39 PM Feb 2016

How 1968 changed Hillary

Forty years and four days ago, Hillary Rodham stormed into a friend’s dorm room at Wellesley College and slammed her book bag against a wall.

“I can’t stand it anymore!” she screamed, in tears. “I can’t take it!”

It was April 4, 1968, and Hillary had just heard the news of Martin Luther King‘s assassination. The entire nation was grieving that day, but Hillary’s anguish was especially palpable, because King himself had started her on her path to political awareness, when she’d shaken his hand after a sermon in Chicago.

http://www.salon.com/2008/04/08/hillary_1968/

So for those of you who claim she has a longer history than Sanders, the facts don't support it. She still considered herself a republican until 1966. She made the switch in 1968 and supported McCarthy for President. Like most of us in her age group it was the Vietnam War, the assignation of both King and Bobby that shaped our views in regards to politics and civil rights.

Sanders has been involved with civil rights since the early 60's. He was arrested in 1964 for organizing and protesting against segregation.
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1964/01/14/page/6/article/race-protest-cases-of-159-are-decided


I'm glad that she changed her views in the late 60's but do not understand why so many ignore Sanders efforts in supporting civil rights for a very long time. He may have been just another foot soldier but he did support desegregation.









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How 1968 changed Hillary (Original Post) unapatriciated Feb 2016 OP
Okay catnhatnh Feb 2016 #1
I don't believe he said he met them during that time. unapatriciated Feb 2016 #3
btw Clinton was only 16 in 1963 unapatriciated Feb 2016 #5
I don't believe her account of how things unfolded for her. closeupready Feb 2016 #2
She was still shaken from coming under sniper fire on that chopper flight NightWatcher Feb 2016 #4
But don't most 28 year old female lawyers try to join the Marines? jfern Feb 2016 #8
I believe her, because it was the typical experience... Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #6
I also believe she got involved and cared about civil rights but.... unapatriciated Feb 2016 #7
I certainly commend Sanders for his work... Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #9
I don't doubt that they met earlier unapatriciated Feb 2016 #10
I think that's funny.... Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #11

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
3. I don't believe he said he met them during that time.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

I believe he met them later when Clinton was running for Governor. Per his own book he had only heard of Bill in the 70's.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511204077

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
2. I don't believe her account of how things unfolded for her.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:26 PM
Feb 2016

She's repeatedly lied about so much. She lies about anything and everything that happened to her, completely evading all the negatives and embellishing everything positive that happened to her, without exception.

She did that in 2008, and she's doing it again.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. She was still shaken from coming under sniper fire on that chopper flight
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

Yes, she spins what she can and lies about it when she's caught.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
6. I believe her, because it was the typical experience...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:59 PM
Feb 2016

for most young boomers. For politically minded boomers, it was often what defined them. There are bell-weather moments that impact each generation. Go back another 25 years and you'll hear people talk about Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust pictures. Many young people hold their parents beliefs until their late teens and early twenties, then circumstances open their eyes. It would be much more unusual if she told a different story.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
7. I also believe she got involved and cared about civil rights but....
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:13 PM
Feb 2016

it was not until 1968 well after Sanders had been protesting and even getting arrested. There are many on this board who are calling Sanders a liar in regards to what he did during the 60's and civil rights movement. Some on this board and even newscasters (chuck todd) are under the impression that the Clintons have personally known and worked with John Lewis since the 60's. Lewis hadn't heard of Bill until the 70's and didn't officially meet him until 1991.

https://books.google.com/books?id=EVdrKWADFnsC&pg=PA317&lpg=PA317&dq=john+lewis+bill+clinton+southern+poverty+law&source=bl&ots=Oat46bzWIJ&sig=TyUelVyxMjfEziH3d1VP1YwU5Bw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBn6b18_DKAhUDOiYKHYAEBnIQ6AEIKDAC#v=onepage&q=john%20lewis%20bill%20clinton%20southern%20poverty%20law&f=false

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
9. I certainly commend Sanders for his work...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

in the Civil Rights Movement. However, here's a link with Bill Clinton talking about when he first met John Lewis. It's a little bit earlier and a bit different.

You know, John was up here talking about being 60 years old, and I was thinking about the first time I met him, when I was just a young man back in the seventies, held no office, wanted to get elected to something in my State, and was interested in helping a fellow from Georgia named Carter get elected President. And I remember John talking to me about all these stories we saw in the movie. Twenty-five years ago, my eyes were big. I thought, one of the reasons I liked politics and one of the reasons I'm a Democrat is I can sit here, a 29-year-old kid, and talk to John Lewis about his life. If anybody had ever told me 25 years later I'd be back here talking about a distinguished 60-year-old Congressman, and I'd be President, I'd have thought they were nuts. [Laughter] But I'm honored to be here.


http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=58380



unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
10. I don't doubt that they met earlier
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:30 PM
Feb 2016

They both have different memories of when, as a young man Clinton would have been more impressed with the meeting than Lewis. Lewis probably met many young up and coming young Dems and didn't remember the first meeting. It would be more memorable to Lewis when asked for his support for a presidential run.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
11. I think that's funny....
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:45 PM
Feb 2016

but you're right. Memories are like that. I can remember almost every famous person I've ever met. I'm sure none of them remember me.

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