2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie and the dreaded question.
Today he criticized President Obama for failing to bridge the gap between Congress and "the people." And Bernie will? Can we invite reality into the room for a moment, and ask the dreaded question: How?
The Congress is controlled by Republicans. Consensus prediction is that fewer than a handful of seats in the House will change because of Republican gerrymandering. They are master gerrymanderers. Today Republican-controlled, tomorrow Republican-controlled.
Obama spent all of his political capital to get Obamacare passed and that occurred when BOTH the House and Senate were Democratic-controlled.
Bernie platform is years more ambitious than Obamacare: single payer healthcare, free college for everyone, a $15 minimum wage, and the breakup of the banks.
Bernie must have votes from at least Republicans. Throughout Obama's term, the Republicans vilified Obama as a "socialist." Now they are going to cooperate with an actual socialist?
He won't even get votes from some Democratic House and Senate members. Bernie admits that his plan will raise taxes on the middle class because taxing the wealthy and corporations won't cover the trillions-of-dollars check that the government will have to write.
What Democratic House or Senate member will vote to raise taxes on the middle class? They aren't going to vote for it unless just about everyone else does because of the huge political costs of a 'yes' vote on their record. It's political suicide. So if everyone is waiting for everyone else to support the bill before they vote, who in the end is going to vote 'yes'?
PS: Bernie's criticism of Obama today won't sit well with the black community in South Carolina and certainly down South. Never attack a black president when seeking endorsements from the black community.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)It is very, very difficult to turn a Republican district into a Democratic victory. That's the big problem, and it's why compromise is so hard in Congress. BOTH sides know that they are virtually ensured of being re-elected. So, why compromise?
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Just as sure as Hillary is about to hit a brick wall
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Numbers don't lie. But we'll see!
As for Hillary, at this point I haven't a clue.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)He acknowledged the President's efforts. But I have no doubt the Clinton gang would like to introduce an element of race in anything that comes out of his mouth right now. It's their goal.
Justice
(7,188 posts)expressly criticized Obama, who is the president and is black.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Did President Obama bridge the gap? From Justice's perspective. Simple yes or no question.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Hillary, nor Republicans, nor you and I, without attacking his race. Thus Hillary disagreed with the Black President when she said he flopped bigtime in Syria and didn't have "organizing principles". And I'm sure you would agree there's nothing racial there.
Justice
(7,188 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,208 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Bernie supporters, is my thinking wrong and if so, why/how is it wrong? I didn't post to be flamed or to enrage people, but to hopefully encourage a discussion on what I think is the biggest problem with Bernie's candidacy.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)When you said "can we invite reality into the room for a moment" that kinda ruined it, and really makes it difficult for anyone to provide a serious response.
I think the best you're going to get is sarcasm and snark. (Take this post for instance.)
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)What in my post isn't true and thus real?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)So much for "party loyalty" which is much ballyhooed here.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)the workers were....AFRICAN AMERICANS. One white guy and the rest were black.
Millennials are NOT going to vote for Clinton. MSNBC BLURB... There's 260,000 voters under 24 years old in SC. You might want to prepare for a close SC election after his big win in Nevada.
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