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Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:04 PM Feb 2016

"Thank you, John Lewis, for the beatings you took and the heart you kept wide open."

I come today as your President and also as a child of the South. The only thing that John Lewis said I disagree with is that I could have chosen not to come. That is not true. I had to be here in Selma today.

Thirty-five years ago, a single day in Selma became a seminal moment in the history of our country. On this bridge, America's long march to freedom met a roadblock of violent resistance. But the marchers, thank God, would not take a detour on the road to freedom.
...

And thank you, John Lewis, for the beatings you took and the heart you kept wide open. Thank you for walking with the wind, hand in hand with your brothers and sisters, to hold America's trembling house down. Thank you for your vision of the beloved community, an America at peace with itself.

I tell you all, as long as Americans are willing to hold hands, we can walk with any wind; we can cross any bridge. Deep in my heart, I do believe, we shall overcome.

Remarks by President Bill Clinton on the 35th Anniversary of the 1965 Voting Rights March in Selma, Alabama
March 5, 2000



Now, I have to imagine that when a younger John Lewis woke up that morning 50 years ago and made his way to Brown Chapel, heroics were not on his mind. A day like this was not on his mind. Young folks with bedrolls and backpacks were milling about. Veterans of the movement trained newcomers in the tactics of non-violence; the right way to protect yourself when attacked. A doctor described what tear gas does to the body, while marchers scribbled down instructions for contacting their loved ones. The air was thick with doubt, anticipation and fear. And they comforted themselves with the final verse of the final hymn they sung:

“No matter what may be the test, God will take care of you;
Lean, weary one, upon His breast, God will take care of you.”

And then, his knapsack stocked with an apple, a toothbrush, and a book on government -- all you need for a night behind bars -- John Lewis led them out of the church on a mission to change America.

Remarks by President Barack Obama on the 50th Anniversary of the 1965 Voting Rights March in Selma, Alabama
March 7, 2015

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"Thank you, John Lewis, for the beatings you took and the heart you kept wide open." (Original Post) Empowerer Feb 2016 OP
Apparently... MrWendel Feb 2016 #1
No one is throwing him under the bus. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #2
Your right... MrWendel Feb 2016 #6
Yes, posting a positive OP about a true American hero is "trying to start something." Empowerer Feb 2016 #17
If I were nasty (which I'm not) I'd be tempted to alert it as Off Topic Armstead Feb 2016 #36
Posting a positive historical reminder about someone who's reputation and integrity Empowerer Feb 2016 #40
It if were in the General Discussion on any other day...Nope Armstead Feb 2016 #41
Great idea-when WEB DuBois endorses one of the 2016 primary candidates, speaks at a Empowerer Feb 2016 #42
As opposed to the MULTITUDE Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #46
No one? take a look a this lunamagica Feb 2016 #32
Can you link to an example? cyberswede Feb 2016 #8
Plenty... MrWendel Feb 2016 #9
That's a post about Lewis's remarks cyberswede Feb 2016 #12
I gave you a link... MrWendel Feb 2016 #15
I didn't think there was an example. cyberswede Feb 2016 #16
It doesn't exist.. disillusioned73 Feb 2016 #18
I made some angry/disappointed remarks about his remarks Armstead Feb 2016 #38
I agree - the implication is clear and very disappointing. nt cyberswede Feb 2016 #39
From that thread lunamagica Feb 2016 #33
This one is shitty cyberswede Feb 2016 #35
You are welcome! lunamagica Feb 2016 #37
Thank you John Lewis for standing with Bernie at 50th Anniversary of the Selma march. PonyUp Feb 2016 #3
Love that picture. Bernie's granddaughter is adorable - what an honor for her to walk jillan Feb 2016 #7
Actually, it was Bernie who stood with John Lewis Empowerer Feb 2016 #11
LOL! I'll give you an 'A' for effort! n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #13
"2015 was the first year that Bernie Sanders attended."... SidDithers Feb 2016 #30
I bet you have no idea that this devalues an American hero and is offensive. Squinch Feb 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author hobbit709 Feb 2016 #4
Yes, thank you John Lewis, a true American Hero. jillan Feb 2016 #5
I guess what somebody did 50 years ago DOES count if it is John Lewis nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #10
Exactly. Getting your head bashed in gives you a little extra credit . . . Empowerer Feb 2016 #14
This post was the subject of an alert that failed 0-7!! guillaumeb Feb 2016 #19
Wow. Empowerer Feb 2016 #20
Some opinions are more respected than others. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #22
Yep. wildeyed Feb 2016 #23
If he didn't do another thing of note in his life, this would be more than enough to earn him a Empowerer Feb 2016 #26
Do you think that people really wildeyed Feb 2016 #34
Ugh Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #47
John Lewis is a national treasure Gothmog Feb 2016 #24
He is, indeed Empowerer Feb 2016 #25
John Lewis is one of a handful of true American heroes who has spent his entire life Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #31
I have signed copies of both March 1 and March 2 Gothmog Feb 2016 #44
Yes, he is DesertRat Feb 2016 #43
Something in my eye mcar Feb 2016 #27
K&R. A true hero. A true fighter. How sad that so many turn their backs so eaily on him lunamagica Feb 2016 #28
DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #29
You always tryin' to start some shit! LOL!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #45

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
2. No one is throwing him under the bus.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

You Hillary fans are trying to start something and it's not working!!

God, even the Tweets Brock chose on Blue Nation Review don't show any vitriol!!

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
36. If I were nasty (which I'm not) I'd be tempted to alert it as Off Topic
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:25 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not, but a post about the general greatness of John Lewis is not relevant to the current Primary Election in 2016.

It's obvoisly bait.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
40. Posting a positive historical reminder about someone who's reputation and integrity
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

are being questioned in thread after thread is "flamebait?"

Wow.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
41. It if were in the General Discussion on any other day...Nope
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

But you knew exactly what you were doing when you posted this today in the Primary Forum.

Why don't you post a similar post about, say WEB DuBois in the primary forum?

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
42. Great idea-when WEB DuBois endorses one of the 2016 primary candidates, speaks at a
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:54 PM
Feb 2016

press conference about the primary race, and becomes the target of one of the candidates's supporters who smear his reputation because they don't like what he said at that press conference about the primary race, I'll post all kinds of interesting stuff about him, too!

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
32. No one? take a look a this
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:13 PM
Feb 2016

Actual quotes from that thread:

"Mr. Lewis, I hope those donations you got from Hillary's big corporate Donors was worth your credibility!"

"pretty bad day for John Lewis too. , that he can be used"

"Thanks John, for letting us know that you care more about your political career

than you do your fellow African Americans."

If that's not throwing him under the bus...

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
12. That's a post about Lewis's remarks
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:20 PM
Feb 2016

...not an example of anyone claiming that Lewis's accomplishments and sacrifices don't matter because he supports Hillary.

Can you link to a specific example of what you describe in your post?

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
16. I didn't think there was an example.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:26 PM
Feb 2016

If there were, clearly you would provide it. I'm not wading through 200+ replies hunting for something you claim exists.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
18. It doesn't exist..
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:31 PM
Feb 2016

that is why. The most you'll see is disappointment of his involvement w/ the kitchen sink strategy..

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
38. I made some angry/disappointed remarks about his remarks
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:26 PM
Feb 2016

No one is above being criticized for what they say and do.

He's a great man, but some feel that what he said today was wrong.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
33. From that thread
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:14 PM
Feb 2016

Actual quotes from that thread:

"Mr. Lewis, I hope those donations you got from Hillary's big corporate Donors was worth your credibility!"

"pretty bad day for John Lewis too. , that he can be used"

"Thanks John, for letting us know that you care more about your political career

than you do your fellow African Americans."

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
35. This one is shitty
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:23 PM
Feb 2016

"Thanks John, for letting us know that you care more about your political career
than you do your fellow African Americans."

The others are pretty meh.

Thanks for the examples.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
7. Love that picture. Bernie's granddaughter is adorable - what an honor for her to walk
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:13 PM
Feb 2016

across that bridge with civil rights icon John Lewis. A memory that will stay with her forever.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
11. Actually, it was Bernie who stood with John Lewis
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:19 PM
Feb 2016

As I noted in another thread, Sanders went with about 100 other Senators and Members of Congress and thousands of others to Selma to hear President Obama's historic speech and then the participants made a symbolic march across the bridge. Afterward, Rep. Lewis graciously posed for photos on the bridge.

BTW, this march is an annual event, part of a Congressional pilgrimage led by John Lewis, hosted by the Congressional Black Caucus and sponsored by the Faith and Politics Institute. Each year, every Senator and Member is invited and many join the CBC Members for the pilgrimage - Nancy Pelosi goes most years, Eric Cantor has gone, Steny Hoyer goes just about every year, etc. 2015 was the first year that Bernie Sanders attended.

Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
14. Exactly. Getting your head bashed in gives you a little extra credit . . .
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:23 PM
Feb 2016

Not to mention working at this full-time throughout the 1960s and then continuing to fight for civil rights FOR REAL for the next 50 years - yes, it definitely DOES count.

I can't believe you would write something so foolish.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
22. Some opinions are more respected than others.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:51 PM
Feb 2016

The alerts seem to be increasing as the race tightens. If Sanders wins Nevada or S. Carolina it could become worse.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
23. Yep.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:19 PM
Feb 2016

If you did this:




(BTW, the white guy in the pic suffered permanent brain damage from this beating)



Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
26. If he didn't do another thing of note in his life, this would be more than enough to earn him a
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:03 PM
Feb 2016

lifetime of honor and respect.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
34. Do you think that people really
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:21 PM
Feb 2016

misunderstand the level of risk and terror that Lewis, King and others on the front lines of Civil Rights subjected themselves to repeatedly? They decided they would rather die than fail. And that they would die before they compromised their commitment to non-violence. I really dislike when that is appropriated for the benefit of a partisan political campaign.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
25. He is, indeed
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:02 PM
Feb 2016

And those who, in their ignorance and arrogance (a horrible combination), insist on publicly castigating him in the way folks have done here today, are only making it harder for their guy to close the gap with African-American voters who, when faced with the option of aligning with John Lewis or aligning with people showing the attitudes we've seen here, will have absolutely no trouble figuring out which way to go.

I think Sanders is a decent and honorable man who would be absolutely mortified to see what is being said about John Lewis in his name . . .

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
31. John Lewis is one of a handful of true American heroes who has spent his entire life
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:10 PM
Feb 2016

on the battleground of racism and white supremacy.

He was being spit on just recently, as I recall, by the rightwingers.

John Lewis is an American hero.

That is all there is to it.


lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
28. K&R. A true hero. A true fighter. How sad that so many turn their backs so eaily on him
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:05 PM
Feb 2016

Thank you for srarting this thread, Empowerer.

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