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kennetha

(3,666 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:26 PM Feb 2016

Bernie's African American Endorsers

Don't like Obama much.

Harry Belafonte on Obama:

uring the Television Critics Association Press Tour, where he was promoting his upcoming HBO documentary "Sing Your Song," Belafonte told reporters, "Barack Obama and his mission has failed because it has lacked a certain kind of moral courage, a certain kind of moral vision that we are in need of." According to the Wall Street Journal, he later added, "There is still a lot of opportunity for that corner to be turned."

"When he said, 'Yes, we can,' it may have been politically clever," Belafonte continued. "He never defined for us what he said ... So those of us who felt that we needed change filled in that space with our own images of what we thought he meant only to find out we are all disappointed because none of those things have been satisfied."
'HIS MISSION HAS FAILED'



Cornell West on Obama


"A niggerized black person is a black person who is afraid and scared and intimidated when it comes to putting a spotlight on white supremacy and fighting against white supremacy," West explained. "So when many of us said we have to fight against racism, what were we told? 'No, he can't deal with racism because he has other issues, political calculations. He's the president of all America, not just black America.' We know he's president of all America but white supremacy is American as cherry pie."

"The First Black President Has Become The First Niggerized Black President"



Ta-Nehisi Coates on Obama

The irony of President Barack Obama is best captured in his comments on the death of Trayvon Martin, and the ensuing fray. Obama has pitched his presidency as a monument to moderation. He peppers his speeches with nods to ideas originally held by conservatives. He routinely cites Ronald Reagan. He effusively praises the enduring wisdom of the American people, and believes that the height of insight lies in the town square. Despite his sloganeering for change and progress, Obama is a conservative revolutionary, and nowhere is his conservative character revealed more than in the very sphere where he holds singular gravity—race.

Fear of a Black President


Now I doubt the predominant view of Obama in the African American community is the Belafonte-Coates-West view. And I think that fact will be used adeptly by Clinton and her many black surrogates to draw a wedge between Bernie and the black community.

"So Bernie, do you agree with your supporter, Cornell West, that Obama is .... I can't even say the word ... but do you know what he said. he used the n'word to describe Obama. Did you call him out on that? Will you? Why have you accepted his endorsement?"

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Bernie's African American Endorsers (Original Post) kennetha Feb 2016 OP
Bernie doesn't like Obama much. Obama is the "establishment" and is not a progressive. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #1
Clinton needs to force the depth of his dislike out in the open kennetha Feb 2016 #2
Its almost a disdain. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #4
What are you talking about? thomservo Feb 2016 #8
"disdain" MoonRiver Feb 2016 #16
Bernie has expressed that he likes and admires President Obama cali Feb 2016 #10
I thought that many of you didn't care for right-wing Democrats? nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #11
Many of us don't care for right wing Democrats. Imagine that. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #3
but, but, color. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #7
President Obama is a right-wing Democrat? mcar Feb 2016 #9
His words not mine UglyGreed Feb 2016 #13
you're referring to Barack Obama? kennetha Feb 2016 #14
Lol. Go Ken! Rev up that bus and throw Harry right under it! cali Feb 2016 #5
I, too, would be interested in hearing what the response might be. But ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #6
This Is All That Matters About Harry B. LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #12
What matters kennetha Feb 2016 #18
Curious Question..... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #21
just pointing out that Belafonte kennetha Feb 2016 #22
Uh Huh.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #23
So it is perhaps more about protection than I may have realized. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #15
Huh? kennetha Feb 2016 #17
Obama Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #19
Fair enough point kennetha Feb 2016 #20

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
16. "disdain"
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:47 PM
Feb 2016
verb (used with object)
1.
to look upon or treat with contempt; despise; scorn.
2.
to think unworthy of notice, response, etc.; consider beneath oneself:
to disdain replying to an insult.
noun
3.
a feeling of contempt for anything regarded as unworthy; haughty contempt; scorn.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disdain

Do you understand now?
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. Bernie has expressed that he likes and admires President Obama
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:39 PM
Feb 2016

numerous times. You are simply making up stuff.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
14. you're referring to Barack Obama?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:44 PM
Feb 2016

as a right-wing democrat, right?

I'd like your man to be saying that.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. I, too, would be interested in hearing what the response might be. But ...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:32 PM
Feb 2016

... unfortunately, this is a question that the candidate probably will not respond to. But, for those of us who have been observant, it's very easy to imagine what the likely answer would be (or not be.)

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
18. What matters
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:58 PM
Feb 2016

is how much weight his endorsement carries with AA voters. I bet it can be used to drive a wedge between Sanders and AA voters who tend to adore President Obama. I doubt they are going to be swayed by a man who says Obama lacks moral courage.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
21. Curious Question.....
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:11 PM
Feb 2016

What is your race or ethnic background, while you are attempting to throw Civil Rights Icon Harry Belafonte, under the bus?

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
22. just pointing out that Belafonte
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

(and Cornel West too)

threw Obama under the bus

Thus Belafonte:

"Barack Obama and his mission has failed because it has lacked a certain kind of moral courage, a certain kind of moral vision that we are in need of.""
 

Roy Ellefson

(279 posts)
19. Obama
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

Obama is a good president but he is not immune to criticism. He's been way too conservative and too accommodating to conservative positions...he's not a king he's the President...a good one, but not perfect.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
20. Fair enough point
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:09 PM
Feb 2016

But if Sanders is running as much against the legacy of Obama as the wealthy and all that, then he should come out and say as much.


See this post here:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511057421

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