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Q. Is an African-American who says they will vote for Trump if it's Trump v Clinton a racist? (Original Post) Skwmom Feb 2016 OP
No brucefan Feb 2016 #1
Don't know. tazkcmo Feb 2016 #2
Just delusional as any person of any race who would vote for Trump would be, imho,/nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #3
Nope... Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #4
Maybe their sexist? n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #5
That's an odd question - one assumes you mean they are necessarily a racist el_bryanto Feb 2016 #6
In the past, haven't Democrats and Republicans both tried to appeal to racists? Skwmom Feb 2016 #12
No jcgoldie Feb 2016 #7
Such a strange question and interesting it doesn't come with your thoughts. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #8
You are focusing on individual issues versus the big picture. Many voters are focusing on the Skwmom Feb 2016 #11
You truly have no point here other than presenting "others" as extremely confused and foolish. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #13
You think that these voters are upset because Rand Paul dropped out? Seriously? That is the ONLY Skwmom Feb 2016 #14
Yes, that is the only way I can make any sense of such foolishness. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #15
Critical thinking skills? Well, I've always noted that many people have an extremely difficult time Skwmom Feb 2016 #18
Still no answer to the basic question you pose. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #19
No, it's an African-American voting their conscience. Any person owns their vote Autumn Feb 2016 #9
My cat's breath smells like catfood. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #10
no, and that is not a conclusion that can be reached based on a vote. restorefreedom Feb 2016 #16
No. Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #17
Congratulations. You just momentarily brought DU to a consensus. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #20
I with blacks and Latinos voting for Trump. Now they will be in the minority, but JRLeft Feb 2016 #21
Nah, just a dipshit. nt Codeine Feb 2016 #22
Orange juice is good. moriah Feb 2016 #23
Kick. Nt NCTraveler Feb 2016 #24
That hypothetical person is an idiot, but may or may not be racist (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #25
Can you ask a better question? Android3.14 Feb 2016 #26

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
2. Don't know.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:24 AM
Feb 2016

All I know is it's their right to vote how they want and any opinions I may have of that vote are worth squat.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
6. That's an odd question - one assumes you mean they are necessarily a racist
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:28 AM
Feb 2016

or by definition a racist - but while Trump clearly does have a lot of appeal for America's racists, it's likely that even some white republicans are voting for him for non-racist reasons. Such republicans, and the hypothetical African American in your example, are turning a blind eye to his appeal to racists; but that's not quite the same thing.

In any event, my opinion is that the act of voting for trump, whatever the reason, would be pretty stupid.

Bryant

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
12. In the past, haven't Democrats and Republicans both tried to appeal to racists?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:49 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie isn't. He is trying to bring us ALL together.
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. Such a strange question and interesting it doesn't come with your thoughts.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:35 AM
Feb 2016

The answer is simple. No. Not sure why you think the question needs to be posed. I would say they lack intelligent thought.

I can come up with only one reason someone would be so foolish in this case you laid out before us for the first time yesterday about people you are close to.

Paul dropped out and this is what is left for them. That is the only way this makes any sense at all. They are pissed Paul is out. I am sure this is exactly what the trend of Paul supporters looks like since he dropped out. I can kind of understand that. If that isn't it, it's more of a statement on the character of those you are talking about.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
11. You are focusing on individual issues versus the big picture. Many voters are focusing on the
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:47 AM
Feb 2016

big picture. For so many years they've been able to drive people to vote by using wedge issues. Do they not realize that times have changed?

Focus on this issue while ignoring the fact that we are destroying the middle class and driving more people into poverty.

They might question the intelligence of people still focusing on an issue or two while this country is burning........

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
13. You truly have no point here other than presenting "others" as extremely confused and foolish.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:55 AM
Feb 2016

If the case is as you present it, they are not issue voters.

"Focus on this issue while ignoring the fact that we are destroying the middle class and driving more people into poverty."

This sentence shows absolute confusion. The "people" you describe are not issue voters. They have Trump as their number two. Well, he was their number three before Paul dropped out. Truly the only way this makes any sense at all. I get that this isn't going the way you thought it would. You have been prepping for this op for two days. These "other" people you are discussing are simply fools, not issue voters. Seems to me you are spending a lot of time trashing the intelligence of the "people" you work with. I know that wasn't your intent but it's the only thought people are going to walk away with from this.

You posed a question and have yet to answer it yourself. The answer should be amazingly simple. No.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
14. You think that these voters are upset because Rand Paul dropped out? Seriously? That is the ONLY
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:03 AM
Feb 2016

way you can make sense of it? If that is truly what you think, I think you need to step outside your bubble and talk with real people.

The genius political class think they can still pick an issue or two and drive people to the polls using those issues. However, people are starting to see where this political game has gotten this country. The politicians want people to focus on individual issues while ignoring the fact that our government no longer works for the people.




 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
15. Yes, that is the only way I can make any sense of such foolishness.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:09 AM
Feb 2016

Paul to Sanders to Trump.

My bubble seems to be fine. lol. I know no one who has Trump as their second choice over Sanders. I'm pretty good with what that says about my "bubble". lol.

Once again, you didn't answer the question you posed. The answer is simply common sense.

What do you mean "talk with real people?" That doesn't make any sense. The people around me are real and not one seems to be stupid enough to have Trump as their second choice after Sanders. You think the "real people" I talk to aren't "real" simply because they possess critical thinking skills. I get the point you are attempting to make but all you are really doing is trashing the intelligence of your co-workers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511194576

There is the link so it is understood where the ground work for this op started.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
18. Critical thinking skills? Well, I've always noted that many people have an extremely difficult time
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:19 AM
Feb 2016

with their critical thinking skills during periods of change. They base too much of their analysis on what has always been rather than the change that is occurring.

Why is that? I don't know. But it is a tendency that I have noted......
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
19. Still no answer to the basic question you pose.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:23 AM
Feb 2016

Are they racists? I can't for the life of me figure why you posed such a question or what it has to do with anything. Why are you questioning if your friends are racists yet not willing to answer the question yourself? Seems everyone else is on board with their answers.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
9. No, it's an African-American voting their conscience. Any person owns their vote
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:38 AM
Feb 2016

it is theirs to do with as they choose.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
16. no, and that is not a conclusion that can be reached based on a vote.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:09 AM
Feb 2016

each person knows their heart and whether or not they are racist. we each know why we vote for a particular candidate or against one.

i don't think it is fair to trump voters for people to assume (not saying that is what you are doing) that anyone who votes for him is a racist, any more than we can assume that a hillary voter is a hawk. we all have our reasons, and even though trump appeals to racists and xenophobes, there are people who vote for him who are neither. i personally know several who support him solely for economic reasons.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
17. No.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:12 AM
Feb 2016

But it's racist to draw a conclusion that someone is a racist based upon their race and which candidate they vote for.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
20. Congratulations. You just momentarily brought DU to a consensus.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:35 AM
Feb 2016

Then again, that was well understood before the question was even posed.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
21. I with blacks and Latinos voting for Trump. Now they will be in the minority, but
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:37 AM
Feb 2016

these people definitely exist.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
26. Can you ask a better question?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:45 AM
Feb 2016

Here is a suggestion - Should people who think they can determine who is or is not a racist based solely on a single vote and the color of someone's skin find something better to do with their lives?

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