2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumQ. Is an African-American who says they will vote for Trump if it's Trump v Clinton a racist?
I mean yes, ok I don't know.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)All I know is it's their right to vote how they want and any opinions I may have of that vote are worth squat.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Skid Rogue
(711 posts)They're just wrong about what will be best for our country.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)or by definition a racist - but while Trump clearly does have a lot of appeal for America's racists, it's likely that even some white republicans are voting for him for non-racist reasons. Such republicans, and the hypothetical African American in your example, are turning a blind eye to his appeal to racists; but that's not quite the same thing.
In any event, my opinion is that the act of voting for trump, whatever the reason, would be pretty stupid.
Bryant
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Bernie isn't. He is trying to bring us ALL together.
Just a fool.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The answer is simple. No. Not sure why you think the question needs to be posed. I would say they lack intelligent thought.
I can come up with only one reason someone would be so foolish in this case you laid out before us for the first time yesterday about people you are close to.
Paul dropped out and this is what is left for them. That is the only way this makes any sense at all. They are pissed Paul is out. I am sure this is exactly what the trend of Paul supporters looks like since he dropped out. I can kind of understand that. If that isn't it, it's more of a statement on the character of those you are talking about.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)big picture. For so many years they've been able to drive people to vote by using wedge issues. Do they not realize that times have changed?
Focus on this issue while ignoring the fact that we are destroying the middle class and driving more people into poverty.
They might question the intelligence of people still focusing on an issue or two while this country is burning........
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)If the case is as you present it, they are not issue voters.
"Focus on this issue while ignoring the fact that we are destroying the middle class and driving more people into poverty."
This sentence shows absolute confusion. The "people" you describe are not issue voters. They have Trump as their number two. Well, he was their number three before Paul dropped out. Truly the only way this makes any sense at all. I get that this isn't going the way you thought it would. You have been prepping for this op for two days. These "other" people you are discussing are simply fools, not issue voters. Seems to me you are spending a lot of time trashing the intelligence of the "people" you work with. I know that wasn't your intent but it's the only thought people are going to walk away with from this.
You posed a question and have yet to answer it yourself. The answer should be amazingly simple. No.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)way you can make sense of it? If that is truly what you think, I think you need to step outside your bubble and talk with real people.
The genius political class think they can still pick an issue or two and drive people to the polls using those issues. However, people are starting to see where this political game has gotten this country. The politicians want people to focus on individual issues while ignoring the fact that our government no longer works for the people.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Paul to Sanders to Trump.
My bubble seems to be fine. lol. I know no one who has Trump as their second choice over Sanders. I'm pretty good with what that says about my "bubble". lol.
Once again, you didn't answer the question you posed. The answer is simply common sense.
What do you mean "talk with real people?" That doesn't make any sense. The people around me are real and not one seems to be stupid enough to have Trump as their second choice after Sanders. You think the "real people" I talk to aren't "real" simply because they possess critical thinking skills. I get the point you are attempting to make but all you are really doing is trashing the intelligence of your co-workers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511194576
There is the link so it is understood where the ground work for this op started.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)with their critical thinking skills during periods of change. They base too much of their analysis on what has always been rather than the change that is occurring.
Why is that? I don't know. But it is a tendency that I have noted......
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Are they racists? I can't for the life of me figure why you posed such a question or what it has to do with anything. Why are you questioning if your friends are racists yet not willing to answer the question yourself? Seems everyone else is on board with their answers.
Autumn
(45,107 posts)it is theirs to do with as they choose.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)each person knows their heart and whether or not they are racist. we each know why we vote for a particular candidate or against one.
i don't think it is fair to trump voters for people to assume (not saying that is what you are doing) that anyone who votes for him is a racist, any more than we can assume that a hillary voter is a hawk. we all have our reasons, and even though trump appeals to racists and xenophobes, there are people who vote for him who are neither. i personally know several who support him solely for economic reasons.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)But it's racist to draw a conclusion that someone is a racist based upon their race and which candidate they vote for.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Then again, that was well understood before the question was even posed.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)these people definitely exist.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Here is a suggestion - Should people who think they can determine who is or is not a racist based solely on a single vote and the color of someone's skin find something better to do with their lives?