Hey Representative Jeffries, Hillary called children, including black kids, Super Predators

[cali]

who need to be brought to heel. She said these kids have no empathy or conscience. She portrayed them as inhuman. She compared them to the mob.

Congratulations on your hypocrisy, hill flack.




http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/8/1467336/-Hillary-Clinton-Gangs-of-kids-are-super-predators-with-no-conscience-no-empathy

[boston bean]

1. Hillary said "black children were super predators"?

is there a presumption on your part that only black children join gangs?

[cali]

3. Oh please.

Don't be disingenuous. But just for you, I'll change it.

[boston bean]

4. Pointing out she never said that is being disingenuous? LOL

[pablo_marmol]

10. Pretending that there was no dog whistle being blown is disingenuous. Yes. NT

[boston bean]

14. Really? You heard a dog whistle in a thirteen second clip?

[pablo_marmol]

25. Context is everything. It's not like the Clintons don't have 'dog whistle history'.

And I don't waste my time with disingenuous folks. Bye-ya!

[boston bean]

26. I got no context in a thirteen second clip...

[Bluenorthwest]

98. Hillary Clinton on Criminal Justice and Drug Policy Circa 1996- full 1:52 second excerpt

Description: Mrs.Clinton spoke to a Keene State University audience about the seven principles of President Clinton's campaign. JANUARY 25, 1996.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4557866/hillary-clinton-criminal-justice-drug-policy-circa-1996


It's all there for anyone to hear and to see. Plenty of context for the 'kids who are super predators' remark and other very shiny statements.
I showed you this link yesterday as well.

[boston bean]

106. I've seen it. And it proves my point. So much so the OP had to change their wording.

[boston bean]

110. Exactly what was said.

[boston bean]

114. Maybe to people who think only black youth are in gangs.

[boston bean]

118. Really. To me its a tell for people who think the word gang

Means black youth.

[boston bean]

120. Not sure what you are meaning. Are you saying Hillary is a racist republican?

[boston bean]

123. So, gangs and likening the structure of them to the mafia is a dog whistle.

I don't think so.

They are criminal enterprises. With member who have the propensity to show little regard for human life.

She admits there are reasons for this.

Bernie said something very similar in his remarks.

[boston bean]

129. No he said they belong in jail. Which I guess would be bringing them to heel.

[Perogie]

6. The fact is the bill affected the AA community disproportionately

Sanders was against the bill. He knew it was unfair.

Sanders being on the right side of issue - 2

Clinton being on the right side of issue - 0

[boston bean]

8. Sanders voted for the bill.

[Perogie]

19. check the vote

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/102-1991/h327

[boston bean]

23. what do you want me to check. He voted for it.

[oregonjen]

54. Ummm, I just checked because, well...he voted no.

[islandmkl]

103. you have a normal linguistic twist there...."he VOTED?...yes"....

HIS VOTE: NO

please refrain from mis-using verifiable facts when making your points...someone may think there is some intentional misrepresentation going on....

[morningfog]

7. To whom was she referring?

Please explain, since you claim to know.

[boston bean]

9. I wasn't the one making a claim, in case you didn't notice.

[morningfog]

11. I noticed you claimed the OP was wrong. Explain.

What is the basis of your assertion that the OP got it wrong?

Who was Hillary calling super predators who need to be brought to heel?

[boston bean]

15. I did that upthread. Read the comments and realize the OP changed the wording.

[morningfog]

18. So who was Hillary referring to? You are dodgey as hell.

Uncomfortable to defend isn't it?

[boston bean]

20. Umm, listen to the thirteen second clip and you tell me.

I didn't hear anything exclusively about black children.

[morningfog]

28. She was talking about inner city gangs as far as I can tell. Black youth.

If that is wrong, explain why it is. Or just dodge and deflect because you know you have no way to explain this away.

[boston bean]

29. As far as you can tell. That about says it all right there.

[morningfog]

30. Then who was she talking about?

[boston bean]

36. You don't even know and you want me to agree with you?

In the clip she never called "black children are super predators". That is a FACT. end of story.

[morningfog]

39. I am asking YOU to explain who YOU think she was talking about.

Why can't you?

[boston bean]

40. Exactly what she said. You are the one reading into it.

[morningfog]

42. LOL. Thanks for the morning entertainment.

I totally understand why you want to remain willfully blind! It's easier that way.

[boston bean]

43. Thank you for the entertainment. it's been fun!

I totally understand why you want to try and say she said something she didn't, it's easier that way!

[morningfog]

45. Here is what she actually said:

"But we also have to have an organized effort against gangs, just as in a previous generation we had an organized effort against the mob. We need to take these people on. They are often connected to big drug cartels. They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called 'super-predators.' No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way but first we have to bring them to heel and the President has asked the FBI to launch a very concerted effort against gangs everywhere."

I provided the full quote because you want to play games. She was talking about gangs, clearly. And she said: They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called 'super-predators.' No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way but first we have to bring them to heel."

This was in 1996. Inner city gang violence was an issue in the forefront at the time. And the inner city gangs were made up predominately of black youth. Clearly, she was talking about kids in gangs being super predators and bringing them to heel.

Now, how do you read that any other way? Please explain.

[Bonobo]

46. Nailed. To the wall. nt

[boston bean]

48. And what was my first response in this thread?

[morningfog]

51. Who cares? You derailed the thread and disputed what I said. Now, back on topic. Read the quote and

tell me she was not referring to black inner city gang members as super predators who need to be brought to heel. Tell me what the fuck she was talking about if not that.

If you are going to interject your disruption, step up. Quit hiding behind deflections.

[retrowire]

75. morningfog

if I could afford hearts right now, I would give them all to you for this amazing performance of ownage this morning.

bravo!

[morningfog]

79. Please, the credit goes to the other poster. It was all their doing.

But, thank you.

[boston bean]

88. Can you post the last paragraph of sanders floor speech on this?

[morningfog]

99. Why is it impossible for you to address what Hillary said? Why?

[LiberalArkie]

93. Everyone knows who she was talking about, to assume something else is living in a

reality distortion field.

[Bohemianwriter]

73. So when white racist republicans are talking about "thugs"...

And inner city gangs, they are not insinuating anything, right?

[retrowire]

78. another excellent point

man, bostonbean what are you doing????

[boston bean]

82. Some proof of what you say she said would be helpful.

[Bohemianwriter]

90. Are you denying that republicans have been race baiting

and dog whistling the last 40 years?

Are you denying the similarities between Hillary's rhetoric and republican rhetoric?

This is something about the attitudes of the two candidates as percieved by an AA.

This is something else. This is a reminder of who funds your "civil rights" candidate.

&index=11&list=WL

[boston bean]

92. I denied nothing about tepublicans.

You care to respond to what I actually wrote

[Bohemianwriter]

100. She's using the same language, doesn't she?

I'm calling it what it is. A disgusting dog whistle in which Hillary supporters are denying.

Don't give me or anyone the impression that Hillary gives a damn about African Americans except for getting their votes.¨

Wonder how many Hillary supporters cheered her dog whistle against Obama in 2008...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8478044/Birther-row-began-with-Hillary-Clinton.html

[boston bean]

105. She used the same language? Evidence please.

[Bohemianwriter]

107. How about listening to her speak instead of being disingenous?

The other evidence is the mass incarceration law you blame Bernie for practically pushing.

What the Hillary camp is trying to do is to make it look likie Bernie is a white supremacist who's been working against the AA community his entire career, and then minimize his efforts while denying Hillary's deep seeded racism.

This is what we liberals call projection. We see it being done by republicans all the time. Now we see that Hillary and her supporters are cut out of the same mold as their fellow republican Wall Street allies.

[boston bean]

111. But i am not being disingenuous.

She said what she said. She didnt say something people make up.

[Bohemianwriter]

121. We saw the signs...

In Seattle when two young women berra ted Bernie and his supporters of being racists on stage...

How well would that have flied in one of those tiny buildings that Hillary holds her rallies and focus groups in? Imagine if two black mothers came up to her, screamed in her face, scolding her and her supporters racists for supporting draconian drug laws in the 90s?

If you can mention any policy that has benefit ted the AA community in specific since she and her husband lived in Pennsylvania Ave, where Bernie has been sitting on the fence, then please proceed.
And then you can enjoy Hillary meeting the "little people".

I guess these people weren't "respectful" enough for her, or what?

Hillary embodies everything that is wrong about American politics. There are just too many people blinded to see that.

With Hillary, it's all about her. With Bernie, it's about "we." She portrays herself as some sort of savior in which only SHE can wield power and the rest are just piggy backing her.
Bernie always talks about a joint effort to get anything done.
And one thing is getting money out of politics.

Are you in with that, or are you with Hillary and want money in politics?

[jham123]

126. It matters not

Bean, it matters not what "YOU" think in this instance...

What matters is what the AA voting populace thought about it when it was stated (2008 election cycle if you must) and how the POC chose to feel about it.

The bottom line was, prior to that statement, POC where voting almost 60/40 in favor of Clinton....after that statement it flip flopped to 60/40 in favor of Obama. You can pound your chest all day with your opinion of what it meant and who it was about, the simple facts remain, the POC didn't dig it one bit...and they aren't forgetting what happened or what was said.

[boston bean]

128. The statement was made in 1996, no?

[jham123]

134. So time makes everything just melt away

Sadly, that is what is the defining factor for Hillary voters, they feel that after a certain amount of time, all her indiscretions melt away. Every day is a new day and every speech is a chance to have a totally new position on a subject that has been around for 25 years.

Sorry Bean, you can't set people up like that.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

117. Bingo. I started to type that but I figured why bother.

Not in a million years is that person going to budge an inch.

When Bill O'Riely says "thugs" and "inner city thugs" he may very well mean white kids too. Because that's how he rolls.

[Nanjeanne]

2. But Sanders unlike Clinton

Would never go there.

It's hard when you have integrity and honesty to run in this political climate of lies, innuendo, half-truths -- and a media that craves that kind of crap.

[Vinca]

5. "The Nation" has the article that needs to be read.

http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-does-not-deserve-black-peoples-votes/

It's very disturbing. I've been asking on numerous threads why people of color are loyal to the Clintons and no one has bothered to answer. So I'll ask again. Why has Bill Clinton been called "The First Black President?" Read the article and then explain it to me.

[azurnoir]

27. ..........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=39168

[uponit7771]

35. Have you gone to the AA Forum and asked us there? Sounds like a lot of people don't want

... answers to questions, just there positions established.

[tazkcmo]

61. sigh

Obviously I'm a Sanders supporter but I really wish my fellow supporters would NOT ask this question anymore. I feel it's counter productive because it's insulting. Comparing and contrasting positions, records and the such are fine and expected but then to ask, "Why do you like the Clintons? Look at this!" just leaves the unsaid "You're an idiot." screaming in the air.

I agree with your suggestion that they visit the AA Forum but suggest they don't ask anything but just read/"listen" to what's being posted there. Maybe a post of introduction and an invitation to be educated but not "Why are you so stupid to support Clinton?". It's not being said it but it sure as hell is being implied and, to me anyway, it's insulting.

[uponit7771]

63. Yeah, we're going to get past this primary...we're all 100 about the people we support...

... I still to this day think we have the choice between kick ass and damn great.

[tazkcmo]

72. smile

We indeed have choices and their our own to make. I know I don't need any well meaning or self interested anybody to tell me who I should vote for. Present your case in factual terms but don't lecture me, advise me or assume anything about me. Dragnet: The facts, Ma'am. Just the facts.

[Vinca]

132. No - it's a question about support in the primary elections.

If you happen to be here and happen to be AA, why don't you answer the question?

[morningfog]

12. What has Hillary done for black people? Honest question.

[uponit7771]

66. Why don't you go and ask black people on the AA forum!? Why are you just now asking this?!

[morningfog]

74. Why am I asking this?

Because there has been an increasing volume of posts saying Bernie has done nothing for AAs and only recently begun to address their concerns.

So, what is HIllary's record on this? She has supported some policies antithetical to the AA community. I want to know what she has actually done, not just said. I'd like to compare their records.

I won't take you up on your invitation to post in the AA forum because I think it would not be well received.

[uponit7771]

80. No, JUST NOW asking this... Sanders numbers have been low with PoC for a while... why are people

... just now bringing this up?

regards

[morningfog]

83. Bernie is getting increasingly attacked on it. I'd like to compare HIllary's record.

Obviously the issue is coming to the fore because the race has shifted to the more diverse states.

[uponit7771]

86. Well, one of my big issues with the way this is being approached is Hillary has had a long time

... relationship with PoC and doesn't need to "shift".

That means a lot to people, I've seen that relationship minimized to a couple of votes she wasn't even involved with and that's cynical because it's a tear down of her to build up someone else who has no relationship with PoC.

I don't think this tactic will work

[morningfog]

91. I am asking, what is the basis of that long time relationship from HIllary?

What has she done?

I remember in 2008 she was not the best in this regard. But, what policies has she been involved in?

[uponit7771]

96. Talk to us and promise to continue Obama's legacy while Sanders last month said in response to this

... question that it was time for a course correction cause you know Obama has sent us on the wrong path.

This is no

[thereismore]

104. Here is my take on it: When you course correct, you are still sailing on the same ship.

It's Obama's ship at the moment. I don't see Bernie dismantling Obama's legacy. Remember that Bernie also voted for the ACA bill. Dismantling it is certainly not what he wants. He wants to expand Medicare for all. Medicare is integral to the ACA, in fact even republican governors (not all) have agreed to expand it in their states because it just makes sense. So I see expanding Medicare for all as continuation of Obamacare, not a dismantling of it.

Open your mind to this possibility. Peace.

[uponit7771]

124. Unnnnnn, I'm taking Sanders statement in context with his other statements bashing ...

.... (not criticising) Obama and his associations with people who've said some of the most vile racialized things about Obama.

I know what he meant, I can tell by the company Sanders keeps

[thereismore]

130. Well, the company Clinton keeps is so much better I am sure. Prison industrial complex, Walmart,

and then there is open racism in the form of black super-predator children. You have a candidate that makes YOU look bad. Think about it.

[jeff47]

131. We've asked it many, many, many, many, many times.

The answer we have received is "shut up".

[LovingA2andMI]

68. Nothing Much....

And this statement is from a African-American....

[ieoeja]

95. Apparently convinced them that Republican talking points are correct.

Republicans have asserted for decades that "Liberal Democrats have done nothing to help you". African-Americans had been laughing at that assertion given all the Civil Rights accomplishments pushed into law by Liberal Democrats over the decades.

But this cycle we have been hearing AAs on DU making that very assertion. Repeatedly. Apparently, the Republican talking point has finally worked.

We're getting a pretty long list of Republlican talking points out of the Hillary camp this year.

"We need lower taxes."
"Single-Payer healthcare is not just impossible, it is a bad idea."
"Liberals do nothing for African-Americans."

[Dragonfli]

135. The ever increasing Republican talking points you are seeing has a direct connection to a SuperPac

run by David Brock. The SuperPac has even broken ground in the area of skirting election laws by openly and admittedly coordinating directly with the Clinton Campaign, something that is supposed to be illegal. He cites an obscure clause he believes allow SuperPacs to directly coordinate with a campaign if they do so using the internet rather than the airwaves, I don't think any other campaign could get away with coordinating directly with a Pac, but it is good to have friends in high places in both parties and even friends higher up in the financial community.

Does David Brock, shock troop for Hillary Clinton, help or hurt her?

Can Anyone Ever Truly Trust David Brock?
David Brock rose to fame with his vicious if not terribly factual takedowns of the Clintons. Now he’s firmly in Hillary’s corner. But has he really changed?

[UglyGreed]

13. “bring them to heel.”

SMH!!!!!

[mgmaggiemg]

16. I was all ready for something juicy to have to concede on

and you pull up something pathetic..from 20 years ago...yawn....

[morningfog]

22. It was okay to call black kids super predators who need to be brought to heel

20 years ago, right? Glad she evolved in that, if she has.

[mgmaggiemg]

31. was it ok for bernie

to support gun manufacturers for votes 30 yrs ago while playing the leftist peanik in central america and isreal....? hypocrisy is everywhere and if you don't believe that look at BS 30 year career and voting record for the miliatary industrial complex.....the result of an offensive game is charlatanism....everyone see through it very transparent

[Robbins]

58. You clinton supporters are desperate

supporting a candiate who in 2008 attacked obama on guns and now wants to be seen as the anti=gun candiate.

again and again bernie is no tool of nra with d- rating.he doesn't believe gun shop owners who sell guns legaly should be sued if someone buys them legaly and then uses them.he supports assulat weapons ban and background checks.

You really want to bring up his votes in congress.The guy who voted against both iraq wars and against arming syran rebels.

[mgmaggiemg]

70. re background checks

complete meaningless drivel and he knows it....the fbi is sitting on millions of unprocessed background checks...states are passing background check laws...and local law enforcement are refusing to process them...because of lack of funding...this literally means that every gun shop owner who sends the info to the fbi and doesn't get it back because of a loophole in the law gets to sell the guns with no background check making all the gun shop owners and dealers literal "straw purchasers" for their customers....bernie knows this ...for months the fbi hid the fact that Dylan Roof had not passed his background check....and it was all shot to hell last week when one of the victims families testified in oregon state legistlature...this is the thing your gov does not want you to know there are over 3 million unprocessed background checks for people who have bought weapons just by "sending in the paperwork" its a catastrophic failure of gov brought about literally by the NRA greasing the politicians to pass laws for which there is no funding to run the program....and then 33.000 thousand people are murdered each year and tax payers pay billions per year for the cleanup...all by passing voters...who have no say in the matter....Bernie knows all this don't think he does not...no excuse

[uponit7771]

125. What's desperate is the minimizing of these votes and the effects it had on communities of color

... in America

[kracer20]

89. Quick...Change the subject!!! ----> SQUIRREL!!!

[uponit7771]

38. Didn't Sanders support the 94 legislation?!? Again, Sanders might be slightly better and that's

... not good enough

[morningfog]

49. Did Bernie refer to black kids in gangs as super predators who need to be brought to heel?

[uponit7771]

60. Neither did anyone else

[morningfog]

62. Hillary said that inner city kids in gangs were super predators that needed to be brought to heel.

[uponit7771]

64. Can you link ... AND.... quote her please, I'd like to read it for myself

[morningfog]

71. Here:

"But we also have to have an organized effort against gangs, just as in a previous generation we had an organized effort against the mob. We need to take these people on. They are often connected to big drug cartels. They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called 'super-predators.' No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way but first we have to bring them to heel and the President has asked the FBI to launch a very concerted effort against gangs everywhere."

[uponit7771]

76. There's nothing about inner city kids there at all, am I reading this wrong? I don't see where

... she even referred to PoC in passing.

I doesn't sound like a bad plan either seeing what was happening back then...

Let me know

[morningfog]

81. You're right, midwestern plain gangs were a real problem in the 1990s.

[uponit7771]

84. I have no idea, I'm asking honestly ... I know there was some serious outside gang problems in the

... lates 90s.

[cherokeeprogressive]

109. Those notorious white kids in gangs. Amiright?

[uponit7771]

137. Yeah, skin heads in inner cities etc... you live near the inner city or big city propers? tia

[cherokeeprogressive]

139. I grew up in SE Los Angeles County, about 8 miles from Compton, 10 miles from Watts.

Skinheads in inner cities is a new one on me. I grew up with the vatos.

[Dragonfli]

136. Well the plan was only good if you think raising the amount of People in prison (by 60%) is good

Since an extremely largest percentage of those new clients for the now booming (politic friends and donors to Hillary) private prison industry were PoC, I guess mission accomplished with her dog whistling in that clip that was a speech in support of the legislation

In 1994, President Clinton signed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, which offered states billions in funding for new prisons – but only if they adopted “truth in sentencing laws” that would reduce prisoners’ eligibility for parole. The law also established mandatory life-sentences for people convicted of a third violent felony, among other punitive measures. By the end of the Clinton presidency, the number of people in America’s prisons rose by nearly 60%, according to the Brennan Center for Justice.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/clinton-admits-his-crime-bill-made-mass-incarceration-worse

I realize you don't think it was a bad plan, but I do, Living in a mixed race poor neighborhood and being mixed race myself (4 separate races in fact allowing me a certain amount of objectivity), I can tell you that after my state got on board with the provisions required to receive the federal money, I watched nearly a third of my friends and neighbors that weren't hurting anybody but were caught using drugs go to prison, and because like most where I live they were not lilly-white like Clinton, Paroles did not work out for them. A great many moms I knew were stuck raising kids on there own while dad was off in prison (a task made very very hard for them due to the Clinton initiative that all but destroyed assistance for them)

Judging by your views, I'd say you were raised in a predominately white affluent neighborhood, but that is only my opinion based on your views, I may have it all wrong, but your views appear to reflect those of that demographic.

[uponit7771]

138. Sanders voted for the 94 bill not Clinton, it's a weak deflection to say this is on her

[Dragonfli]

140. He made a mistake IMO, but he did not actively push the bill like Hillary did

And he most certainly did not use racist dog whistles to push it as she did.

He mistakenly thought the use of the measures provided in the bill would be used against VIOLENT criminals, because that is how the bill was sold, he did not get to see as I did how it would be used to go after non-violent drug users simply because Cops are too cowardly to go after the violent when non violent poor drug users (that have no hope of getting acquitted because they lack proper Lawyer money) a key point because acquittals endanger the not so brave cop's "collar's" which is how they keep track of how well they do, "collars" lead to advancement. It doesn't count as a "collar" if the guy with the gun has the money to get away with it using a good lawyer.

I do not excuse his vote and still think he was mistaken for it, mostly because he was naive in how it would be used but at the same time, rather than using the podium to amplify racist dogwhistles, he used it to try to get people to address the causes of crime, rather than blaming the poor for trying to survive, or using drugs to get through a day in poverty.

See for yourself

&feature=youtu.be

Bernie Sanders: Incarcerating a Country (4/13/1994)

[uponit7771]

141. Please link and quote whatever racist dog whistles you think she said... I've asked this 5 different

... times and no one can QUOTE or LINK her exact words but they keep saying she used them

[Dragonfli]

142. They are already posted above, I can't help t if the obvious escapes he scales covering your eyes.

[pablo_marmol]

17. Bernie is an honest, consistent thinker.

Just as he doesn't demonize young PoC, he doesn't demonize inanimate objects. Rather, his integrity and intellect direct him to ROOT CAUSES of problems.

[bigtree]

21. your tortured version of what she said

...

[morningfog]

24. Who was she talking about?

[bigtree]

32. I think she was talking about youth who commit violent crimes

...what would you call them?

[morningfog]

37. Youth or inner city gangs?

[bigtree]

44. I don't think she meant community clubs of youth

...I think you're either naive about city crime, or you're being disingenuous.

There's nothing at all to suggest that Hillary Clinton was denigrating all youth, or even black youth, as Cali editorialized. She was discussing an epidemic of violent, drug-related crime among our nation's youth. I think if we were face-to-face with one of the actual, tragic incidents there wouldn't be strong enough words to describe the perpetrators.

However, what Cali is positing here is that Hillary Clinton is insensitive to the humanity of youth, specifically black youth. Not only doesn't this statement make the case, there's nothing in her history to support such an accusation.

I understand that people will jump all around this to find fault with Hillary, but I also understand this is an election year and DU is far from immune to these sorts of political exaggerations.

[morningfog]

47. She referred to inner city kids, who were gang members, as super predators.

Kids. She called kids, black kids, super predators who need to be brought to heel. It's that simple.

She did not say, we need to understand why these KIDS have followed a path to violence. She did not say, these KIDS live in poverty with no support and have few choices. She did not say these KIDS' neighborhoods need to be revitalized and supported. She said these KIDS are super predators who need to be brought to heel.

[bigtree]

50. you assume the worst interpretation

...for whatever reason.

I do not.

[morningfog]

52. What other possible interpretation is there?

Seriously. I know you are an intelligent person. Read the quote: "They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called 'super-predators.' No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way but first we have to bring them to heel..."

[cherokeeprogressive]

113. Cub Scout troops?

[Bohemianwriter]

85. No problem with Hillarfy there...

According to some, the REAL problem is Bernie and his alleged support for the bill that Hillary advocated as a tool against inner city gangs who were "super predators"...

And Hillary never referred to black kids. Yet still Bernie is the racist here, pushing for racist laws targeting minorities.

Hillary is off course guilt free and deserves every single black vote while Bernie deserves the boot. We got it!

[pengu]

33. Just one more dishonest attack from the least honest campaign I've ever seen

[AzDar]

53. K & R

[speaktruthtopower]

55. Enough race-baiting and trolling

There are serious issues to be be discussed.

Who benefits from obscuring issue debate?

[billhicks76]

56. This Is A Real Issue

[RiverLover]

59. +1

Its only a 'real issue' if it's "I'm Hillary & I want to Be Your Champion". Period. No Qs please.

[Bonobo]

57. The dishonest denials on this thread are fucking hilarious. nt

[LovingA2andMI]

69. Yes, They Are

Similar to Trying To Twist Pretzel Dough....

[cherokeeprogressive]

115. Dishonest? Guffaw I say! Everyone remembers the roving bands of white kids.

Like packs of dogs assaulting the glass fronts of Love-Me Avenue
Ripping and rewrapping mink and shiny silver fox, now legwarmers
Family badge of sapphire and cracked emerald
Any day now
The Year of the Diamond Dogs

Oh wait. That was Bowie. Never mind.

[Skwmom]

65. They need to be brought to heel. Who in the heck thinks like that?

[ecstatic]

67. The disgusting part is how the author of that article

(and you??) injected "black kids" into the discussion simply because the topic was violent gangs.

Video of Clinton's remarks: http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4557866/hillary-clinton-criminal-justice-drug-policy-circa-1996

Ironically, you can make a similarly dishonest (and RACIST) inference from the excellent speech Bernie made before voting for the infamous 1994 crime bill:

Mr. Speaker, it is my firm belief that clearly, there are some people in our society who are horribly violent, who are deeply sick and sociopathic, and clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them.

[Kentonio]

77. Sorry but thats complete bullshit

No-one who was around back then was under any illusions about which part of society she was speaking about. Just because her supporters now want to try and whitewash her record, doesnt make it so.

[Bobbie Jo]

87. +1

Neat trick, huh?

Deliberate and twisted.

[Bohemianwriter]

97. Sometimes...

The messenger as well as context is just as important as content.

Hillary is NOT a friend of minorites or the AA community. She has spent 25 years proving such.

[MadDAsHell]

94. But...but...her election will make history!!!!

Didn't we learn from 2008 that that's the most important thing in every election?

(completely ignoring of course that the only "history" that anyone seems to care about is race and gender. Noone gives 2 shits if there's diversity of economic background, familial status, etc.).

[thereismore]

101. Inhuman, with the insinuation of being animals. To heel. She so tough. nt

[senz]

133. Wow. Every thread about AAs is now clogged with desperation and falsehood.

When your candidate has never been what you want her to be, you've got to paddle pretty darn hard.

So easy to see through.