People who think Bernie can't win in November...

[Yurovsky]

have you even bothered to notice that the craziest bastards in the clown car are the front runners?
If Trump or Cruz gets the nomination - which looks more likely each day - we could run a fucking chicken salad sandwich against them and win 300 electoral votes, maybe 400. There's a chance these two racist morons could be paired on the ticket.

If you think an honest, plain spoken public servant like Bernie can't appeal to a majority of Americans over THAT steaming hot pile, well, you might want to take a little closer look at Trump & Cruz's negatives among REPUBLICANS, let alone the other 60% of Americans.

It's time for actual change. Bernie can not only win, but potentially carry many Democrats into Congress on his coattails if he's facing Trump or Cruz or both. Hillary's high negatives among the general public (and even Democrats - look at the honesty/trustworthiness numbers out of NH) would make that race far closer than it should be, and while I think she would win, I see no chance for coattails, meaning more gridlock, more status quo, more getting fucked over by the system that is currently crushing working-class and poor Americans.

[Skinner]

1. I wish I shared your certainty that Cruz or Trump would be easy to beat.

And for what it's worth, there is a good chance that neither of them will be the nominee.

[mgmaggiemg]

4. ah so you are the elusive east coast skinner

sneaking online in the wee hours...hoping not to be seen... have a great day....

[Hawaii Hiker]

6. I think Cruz is far easier

Trump would appeal to the voters who can't stand either party, but Cruz would appeal to no one other than religious right voters.....I can't see any independents or moderates voting for Cruz at all....Even many righties can't stomach Cruz...

[Wilms]

7. But polling suggest Sanders has the better chance, not Clinton.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sanders_vs._republicans.html



Happy Valentines Week, BTW!

[Yurovsky]

10. Every time I think one of the other Rs will rise up...

another poll comes out showing Trump or Cruz MILES ahead of folks like Kasich (who I agree, as do some others, would be the toughest opponent). South Carolina looks like another Trump/Cruz 1-2, with the only possible surprise being Cruz hopping the Donald into first. One of the other Rs is going to have to climb out of the back seat of the clown car and grab the wheel in at least 1 or 2 states before I start to doubt the inevitability of Trump or Cruz carrying the GOP banner in November.

Like I said, I think Hillary beats either one. I just don't see the enthusiasm and the sheer exuberance and joy at her events that I do at Bernie's. That's the stuff of coattails, IMHO. The support I see for Hillary just doesn't seem as motivated or energized. Maybe that's because of the general demographic differences (HRC supporters skew older/wealthier), as I don't think her supporters are by nature as loud/demonstrative as Bernie's. That may well be my personal bias but I see it reflected in media coverage everywhere (both commercial media outlets and social media).

If someone other than Trump or Cruz starts winning, I'll certainly have to reasses my viewpoint. But right now, Bernie seems 1000x times more presidential than the R alternative. If he can encourage voters to look at countries such as Sweden, Germany, France, & the UK and embrace a more engaged federal government, I think he could win big. The vision the GOP will put forth will probably look a lot like W's 3rd term, if Trump even bothers to provide any detail beyond "it'll be great".

[NurseJackie]

2. Why should I vote for someone I *don't* like... and not vote for someone I *do* like?

I don't like Bernie. I love Hillary. She's the best and smartest candidate and I'd be very PROUD to see her in the White House and representing this country.




(And Bernie would most certainly lose to John Kasich.)

[mgmaggiemg]

3. for what it's worth

I respect Bernie and what he brings to the democratic party...I believe his his ideals.... hope that makes your day

[boston bean]

5. Bernie will never win the general election. NEVER.

Democrats will lose every state, except maybe Vermont.

[Wilms]

8. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511199109#post7

[boston bean]

9. He will never win the general election. Period.

[Wilms]

11. Bill Clinton had this to say about republicans.

"Facts bounce off them".

Yep. And others, as well.

[boston bean]

12. What I am stating is a fact.

[Wilms]

15. I'm really not trying to make you look like an idiot.

I swear. It's not me...doing it.

[boston bean]

16. on to personal insults now. whatever floats your boat.

[Wilms]

17. Dust your shoulder pad and smirk.

It's the answer to everything.

[boston bean]

18. I don't need your advice. But maybe you should take your own.

[RiverLover]

14. "A black man with the name Barack Hussein Obama will never win the GE. NEVER."

eom

[disillusioned73]

20. ..

[Orangepeel]

13. People who are sure Bernie can't win the general were/are also sure he can't win the primary

My candidate dropped out after Iowa and I don't plan to pick another unless the race happens to be going on when it is time for the late primary in my state.

But in my opinion, whoever wins the primary is best suited to win the general election. Not only because the other won't be running, but because if a candidate can't win a primary he or she is not the strongest candidate. Whichever it is may not win -- I don't think it is going to be easy in either case-- but if the other one couldn't beat 'em in a primary, they wouldn't have won either.

And in Bernie's case, if he wins the primary, then it means that he is a much stronger candidate than people who thought he'd lose the primary thought he was. If he loses the primary, well, then, he isn't.

[hamsterjill]

19. Uh. Three words for you.

George. W. Bush.

As a Texan, I never thought that dumbass son-of-bitch would be sitting in the Oval Office.

I take nothing for granted in politics.

[Persondem]

21. Those people are exactly right. The GOP could run a lump of ear wax in NC and beat Bernie.

NC is the type of state Dems need to ensure victory in the GE.