Bernie Sanders Intrigues a South Carolina Town That Loves Hillary Clinton

[NJCher]

ORANGEBURG, S.C. — When Helen Duley was asked whom she would be voting for in the South Carolina primary, she answered as if the very question were absurd.

“What I’m seeing is a bunch of confusion, hearsay and foolishness,” said Ms. Duley, 60, a retired nursing assistant who is African-American, shortly after finishing breakfast here at the downtown McDonald’s. “What I also see is a veteran who’s already been in the White House eight years. A veteran: Hillary Clinton.”

But that was late January. Interviewed again on Tuesday as Mrs. Clinton’s rival, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, was surging toward an overwhelming victory in the New Hampshire Democratic primary, Ms. Duley found herself suddenly intrigued by a candidate she barely knew. “It makes me feel good,” she said, chuckling, “that young people are listening to the elderly people.” Ms. Duley now said she was an undecided voter and planned to do some homework on Mr. Sanders, despite respect for Mrs. Clinton that spans nearly a quarter-century.

Mrs. Clinton has long looked forward to the Feb. 27 Democratic contest in South Carolina, the first state where blacks will make up a dominant part of the primary vote. African-Americans accounted for more than half of the voters in the 2008 Democratic primary, and she has been counting on them as a bulwark, not just in South Carolina but also in the so-called SEC primary in six Southern states on March 1.

More at link, plus some good pics:
https://www.readability.com/articles/mnmuksp7


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[mgmaggiemg]

1. bernie is very intriguing to all hrc

supporters

[jfern]

2. I think a lot of people will be suddenly taking a careful look at both candidates

[ejbr]

3. Thanks for this

I hadn't considered the optics of "young folk listening to their elders" before. Maybe because it was never about the optics for me. There will be those who believe the "free stuff" is all that appeals to younger voters, as if Hillary's baggage does not exist. I doubt that these people can be dissuaded from this belief; as sure as there are indeed supporters of his who do find this to be very important. But to have a former strong Hillary supporter appreciate Bernie's ability to reach today's youth in such profound ways is noteworthy.

[SammyWinstonJack]

4. When people hear from him, this happens, hopefully.

[shawn703]

5. HRC taking PoC for granted is going to be her campaign's downfall

Counting on them as a bulwark is ridiculous. She is owed NOTHING and needs to earn her votes just like any other candidate.

[Divernan]

6. That's only ONE of her campaign's MANY downfalls.

And with all the reports of her campaign's reorganizing, strategy changing, blame-passing, Bill's attempts to take charge, etc., it appears the Clinton campaign is in Chinese fire drill, cluster fuck mode heading into South Carolina.

It takes a special kind of stupid to script endorsements by Madeline Albright and Gloria Steinham in such a way as to anger women voters. The quotes from those 2 women will cost Hillary many votes in every one of the state primaries.

Hope there are videographers recording all the internal struggles and public screw-ups of the Clinton campaign. I envision a remake of what Roger Ebert praised as the first horror, film, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, with Hillary Clinton in the title role.

The film thematizes brutal and irrational authority; Dr. Caligari represents the German war government, and Cesare is symbolic of the common man conditioned, like soldiers, to kill. In his influential book From Caligari to Hitler, Siegfried Kracauer says the film reflects a subconscious need in German society for a tyrant, and is an example of Germany's obedience to authority and unwillingness to rebel against deranged authority. He says the film is a premonition of the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (i.e., fascism).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cabinet_of_Dr._Caligari

with enough left over for The Little Shop of Horrors, 3rd Way Style, with Robby Mook as Seymour, and Hillary Clinton as Feed Me Audrey.

[Orsino]

7. I know a little bit about Orangeburg...

...and feel safe in saying that half the people there do NOT love Hillary Clinton.

It's not really a Democratic enclave. Not sure why I'm quibbling, but the framing of the headline sounds kinda silly. The rest of the story is probably spot-on. A senator without name recognition but with a great message probably is intriguing in a region that, as so many of us did, until recently took a Clinton nomination for granted.

[klook]

9. As the article notes, Orangeburg is home to two HBCUs,

S.C. State University (public) and Claflin University (private). I'm interested to hear what the students there have to say.

[RiverLover]

8. Awesome read. So encouraging!! /nt

[WillyT]

10. K & R !!!