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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCriminal Justice - and why saying sorry is not enough
Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton were Mr. and Mrs. Tough on Crime1. Calling young kids predators, was basically calling them nothing more than beast that need to "heel". its was subtle racism
2. Increasing the youth detention population - was stripping away a child's innocence and making them institutionalized
3. A whole generation of black men lives ruined - leaving young black children having to grow up without their fathers.
4. Continuation of Drug wars - that included mandatory sentences, in many occasions black women who were in abusive relationship were forced to transport or sell drugs
4. Black families broken and torn apart
5. Lack of opportunities of those with records which will lead to recidivism
6. Some states allow felons to vote ,but many don't allow them to vote
So why as Black man , who seen the get tough on crime policies would I vote for someone that called me and my peers Super-Predators
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Criminal Justice - and why saying sorry is not enough (Original Post)
Truprogressive85
Feb 2016
OP
Because Sanders voted for some of the same policies and guns? One of the reasons I titled hard towar
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#2
Yes, now he is ... and that's one of the problems. We've seen this before, promise the world with...
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#5
Sorry, but that seems like a really stupid reason not to support Sanders. nt
Live and Learn
Feb 2016
#7
Unless you think illegal wars, mass incarceration, welfare reform and bailing out bankers is
Live and Learn
Feb 2016
#12
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)1. "Super predators" might be a compliment.
But it seems unlikely.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)2. Because Sanders voted for some of the same policies and guns? One of the reasons I titled hard towar
... towards Hillary is because I can't afford to take a chance on just slightly better on those issues.
Obama on the other hand wasn't just slightly better in 08, he had none of the baggage Sanders did
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)3. Sanders is the only one attempting to reform these problems. nt
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)5. Yes, now he is ... and that's one of the problems. We've seen this before, promise the world with...
... little to no way of getting them done and then say "I tried".
Clinton's have an imperfect history with blacks in America.... a history...
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)7. Sorry, but that seems like a really stupid reason not to support Sanders. nt
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)8. A progressive history with a person isn't a good reason to support someone?
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)9. There is nothing progressive about her history. nt
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)11. I disagree, her resume is well documented and established
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)12. Unless you think illegal wars, mass incarceration, welfare reform and bailing out bankers is
progressive, she isn't. That is her legacy.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)4. K&R Great post. nt
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)6. Bill's tough-on-crime stance
what a disgrace. Pro death penalty, pro mass incarceration.
There was something like 800,000 prisoners in jail when he got into office and 1.4 million when he left.
So many lives ruined, for what? His ambition?
jillan
(39,451 posts)10. Bill Clinton destroyed black lives.