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bigtree

(85,998 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:04 PM Feb 2016

More than a dozen Congressional Black Caucus members heading to SC to stump for Hillary Clinton

Scott Wong ?@scottwongDC 35m35 minutes ago
More than a dozen @OfficialCBC members heading to SC to stump for @HillaryClinton http://thehill.com/homenews/house/269037-black-lawmakers-sprint-to-clintons-aid

Black Democrats are closing ranks around Hillary Clinton amid growing fears that Bernie Sanders poses a real threat to her presidential candidacy.

The Congressional Black Caucus PAC this week voted to make its endorsement of Clinton official, and “more than a dozen” CBC members will be storming South Carolina later this month to stump for her ahead of the state’s Feb. 27 Democratic primary, according to CBC Chairman G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.)...

“It’s good to have new friends, but I would prefer to have true friends. Hillary Clinton has been a true friend to the African-American community for more than 40 years. During that same period of time, Bernie Sanders has been largely missing in action,” Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), a CBC member, said on a Wednesday conference call organized by the Clinton campaign...

“People there know her better,” Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), a civil rights icon, said of voters in southern states.

“I think the great majority of African-American voters, at this moment, at this time, would be more inclined to support the secretary,” added Lewis, who plans to stump for Clinton in South Carolina.

While there’s little to suggest an exodus of black voters from Clinton, it’s clear that some are giving Sanders a second look.

But black lawmakers in Congress are not among them.

They argue that the former first lady has a stronger legislative record on issues important to their constituents compared to what they view as mere rhetoric from Sanders.

“If you compare the record of Hillary Clinton on the issue of the gun violence epidemic that impacts the African-American community with the record of Bernie Sanders, it’s not even a close call,” Jeffries said, referring to Sanders’s votes against various gun control bills in Congress.

Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.) pointed to Clinton’s efforts on education while serving as first lady of Arkansas, recalling how he attended a one-room school while growing up in the state.

“You can’t take away that kind of engagement, that kind of involvement, that kind of knowledge, that kind of awareness,” he said.

Rep. Marc Veasey (D-Texas), another Clinton supporter, acknowledged Sanders’s success in attracting younger voters. Still, he said the unique politics of New Hampshire make Tuesday’s results a poor gauge of things to come.

“It doesn’t concern me at all,” Veasey said. “The district that I represent is heavily Hispanic and African-American, and hardly anyone that I’ve talked to — even with everything that’s happened — I don’t hear anyone talking about Bernie. ... So I feel good.”

Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.), chairman of the CBC PAC, said Clinton received 90 percent of the vote from the group’s 20-member board. There was no support for Sanders, but several members abstained, preventing a unanimous vote for Clinton.

The majority of the CBC’s 46 members have endorsed Clinton’s bid.


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More than a dozen Congressional Black Caucus members heading to SC to stump for Hillary Clinton (Original Post) bigtree Feb 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #1
I think they intend to make a big difference in the southern vote bigtree Feb 2016 #4
I'm with you noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #13
The irony here is that these Southern states will go Republican anyway emsimon33 Feb 2016 #27
Because both NH and IA showed quite plainly that the 'lead' is shrinking - fast azurnoir Feb 2016 #38
great post mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #2
The political establishment must protect their own... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #3
Says a supporter of the man who has held a government job for decades. Beacool Feb 2016 #7
Nope... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #9
He was a mayor, Representative and is now a Senator. Beacool Feb 2016 #18
Bullshit...establishment of what party? hoosierlib Feb 2016 #25
Apparently... MrWendel Feb 2016 #29
Well said. Beacool Feb 2016 #30
ka-pow! Number23 Feb 2016 #34
that makes no sense... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #40
He has... MrWendel Feb 2016 #45
35 years... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #46
When your argument is "butt-hurt"... Agschmid Feb 2016 #47
Bitching... MrWendel Feb 2016 #48
They do know and that's why they will vote Bernie... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #49
that particular 'political establishment' is vital to the black community bigtree Feb 2016 #8
All I'm saying it is counterproductive for Hillary... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #10
that's brushing right past my point bigtree Feb 2016 #12
I disagree... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #23
you should take time to listen to them bigtree Feb 2016 #35
Read much? hoosierlib Feb 2016 #41
again, you're not giving these veteran legislators any credit for backbone or brains bigtree Feb 2016 #43
You're right...I don't hoosierlib Feb 2016 #44
This black SC woman Carolina Feb 2016 #39
K&R mcar Feb 2016 #5
Good!!! Beacool Feb 2016 #6
And what evidence did they cite? jonestonesusa Feb 2016 #19
Yeah...threw them right in jail... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #24
Curious noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #11
why shouldn't she advantage her campaign of this important constituency? bigtree Feb 2016 #14
Not defensive at all noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #17
that's one way to describe this overwhelming support from black leaders in Congress bigtree Feb 2016 #20
You said that, I didn't noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #22
She absolutely should work with this constituency. jonestonesusa Feb 2016 #21
I agree noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #51
Run up the margins. Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #33
Good point noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #50
This should help get the voters out and give Hillary a big victory in SC! DCBob Feb 2016 #15
Pulling out all the stops. Again. morningfog Feb 2016 #16
This is very disappointing, especially as they know the havoc the Bill wrecked on African Americans emsimon33 Feb 2016 #26
Oh boy... MrWendel Feb 2016 #28
She cannot win the general election? Beacool Feb 2016 #31
My how 2008 is a distant memory. jonestonesusa Feb 2016 #53
Meanwhile, on the other side KingFlorez Feb 2016 #32
saw that bigtree Feb 2016 #36
Surreal. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #37
Something missing there, can't put my finger on it... firebrand80 Feb 2016 #42
k&r DesertRat Feb 2016 #52

Response to bigtree (Original post)

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
13. I'm with you
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:34 PM
Feb 2016

I guess I should have read the comments before I posted. I'm with you. We keep hearing that she has SC all locked up so why are they all scrambling down to SC? Very interesting.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
27. The irony here is that these Southern states will go Republican anyway
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 12:28 AM
Feb 2016

So her winning them is meaningless for the general election where she will losek, even ot Satan or Trump.

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
3. The political establishment must protect their own...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:17 PM
Feb 2016

I doubt average voter will be swayed...political endorsements only further re-enforces Bernie's message...

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
7. Says a supporter of the man who has held a government job for decades.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

He too is part of the establishment.

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
40. that makes no sense...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:41 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie has been an left leaning independent until he decided to run for President...how can you claim is part of the establishment?

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
46. 35 years...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 03:58 PM
Feb 2016

And he has caucused with the Democrats most of his time in Congress and the Senate.

Butt-hurt because "it's her turn"?

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
48. Bitching...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:02 PM
Feb 2016

and moaning about the CBC enforcing Hilary and not Bernie is the text book definition of Butt-hurt. I guess since they did they REALLY don't care about Black people. If only black people knew what was really good for them. Yeah, butt hurt.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
8. that particular 'political establishment' is vital to the black community
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:25 PM
Feb 2016

...and I would be surprised (maybe not) to find suggestions here that these black legislators shouldn't hold and exercise their political clout in support of those who they feel would advance the issues and concerns of their constituency.

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
10. All I'm saying it is counterproductive for Hillary...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:27 PM
Feb 2016

Again, it just makes the "establishment" label stick and this year, that is NOT a good thing

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
12. that's brushing right past my point
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:33 PM
Feb 2016

...and it highlights a flaw in this anti-establishment schtick of Sanders and his supporters.

This particular political establishment was hard-fought for, through discrimination and outright obstruction of the black vote. It should be defended and cherished, not made the subject of petty political attacks on behalf of a pol from Vermont.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
35. you should take time to listen to them
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:33 AM
Feb 2016

..your suggestion that they're afraid of Hillary is just offensive and insulting to these principled congressmen (and women).

These are thoughtful and accomplished legislators who I certainly give credit for knowing their own minds and I respect their choice in this election.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
43. again, you're not giving these veteran legislators any credit for backbone or brains
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:51 AM
Feb 2016

...suggesting they're supporting her out of fear is some novel horseshit.

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
44. You're right...I don't
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 12:21 PM
Feb 2016

Most politicians are spineless...

And HRC's vindictiveness is well documented...

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
39. This black SC woman
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:42 AM
Feb 2016

is working hard to inform voters that they are be used by the Clintons. When I remind folks of Bill and Hill's behavior against BHO in 2008 and ask what exactly have the duo done for black people... light bulbs go on. The Clinton legacy for blacks has been awful and reminders about it need to be spread widely.

The CBC has several 3rd wayers in it, too.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
6. Good!!!
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:21 PM
Feb 2016

"They argue that the former first lady has a stronger legislative record on issues important to their constituents compared to what they view as mere rhetoric from Sanders."

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
24. Yeah...threw them right in jail...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 12:19 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie marched with MLK and was fucking arrested for trying to desegregate student housing during his time at the University of Chicago...

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
11. Curious
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:32 PM
Feb 2016

I thought Hillary had SC all wrapped up? Why does she need so many in the Black Caucus to go to SC to campaign for her if she already has it locked up? This is very interesting.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
14. why shouldn't she advantage her campaign of this important constituency?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:36 PM
Feb 2016

...understandable for Sanders supporters to get defensive about this overwhelming support from these important and influential legislators, but this isn't a campaign satisfied with sitting on a polling lead. They intend to fight for every vote.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
17. Not defensive at all
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:42 PM
Feb 2016

I'm actually glad to see this. They wouldn't be traveling to SC to campaign if they didn't think that there was a possibility that Sanders might appeal to African American voters. This is good.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
20. that's one way to describe this overwhelming support from black leaders in Congress
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:49 PM
Feb 2016

...as an advantage for Sanders.

jonestonesusa

(880 posts)
21. She absolutely should work with this constituency.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:51 PM
Feb 2016

And she absolutely should remember these particular constituents if she is elected. The bottom line is to make progress to help support all American lives, including black lives - beyond the photo ops. Sanders too - every candidate has more to prove than whether they can win. So, for all of our sakes, this election and the governance to follow had better be about the issues rather than the horse race. The CBC needs to keep this in mind too - there's accountability for everyone when all is said and done.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
51. I agree
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:14 PM
Feb 2016

As a Sanders supporter I obviously hope she isn't elected but I agree, if she is elected she better remember who got her there. I too hope we get some good coverage about the issues (doubtful but hopeful).

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
26. This is very disappointing, especially as they know the havoc the Bill wrecked on African Americans
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 12:26 AM
Feb 2016

I hope that the African Americans of South Carolina are smarter than the Black Caucus members take them to be. The more this goes on the more I am disgusted with Hillary. She can not a general election so a vote for her is a vote for a Republican president, a Republican controlled House and Senate. Very scary.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
31. She cannot win the general election?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 12:56 AM
Feb 2016

Really?



BTW, telling AA in SC that they need to be "smarter" than the Black Caucus is not going to win points for your side.

jonestonesusa

(880 posts)
53. My how 2008 is a distant memory.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:47 PM
Feb 2016

I remember a few remarks about Obama's being an empty suit before Ciinton made him her BFF.

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