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Scott Wong ?@scottwongDC 35m35 minutes agoMore than a dozen @OfficialCBC members heading to SC to stump for @HillaryClinton http://thehill.com/homenews/house/269037-black-lawmakers-sprint-to-clintons-aid
Black Democrats are closing ranks around Hillary Clinton amid growing fears that Bernie Sanders poses a real threat to her presidential candidacy.
The Congressional Black Caucus PAC this week voted to make its endorsement of Clinton official, and more than a dozen CBC members will be storming South Carolina later this month to stump for her ahead of the states Feb. 27 Democratic primary, according to CBC Chairman G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.)...
Its good to have new friends, but I would prefer to have true friends. Hillary Clinton has been a true friend to the African-American community for more than 40 years. During that same period of time, Bernie Sanders has been largely missing in action, Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), a CBC member, said on a Wednesday conference call organized by the Clinton campaign...
People there know her better, Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), a civil rights icon, said of voters in southern states.
I think the great majority of African-American voters, at this moment, at this time, would be more inclined to support the secretary, added Lewis, who plans to stump for Clinton in South Carolina.
While theres little to suggest an exodus of black voters from Clinton, its clear that some are giving Sanders a second look.
But black lawmakers in Congress are not among them.
They argue that the former first lady has a stronger legislative record on issues important to their constituents compared to what they view as mere rhetoric from Sanders.
If you compare the record of Hillary Clinton on the issue of the gun violence epidemic that impacts the African-American community with the record of Bernie Sanders, its not even a close call, Jeffries said, referring to Sanderss votes against various gun control bills in Congress.
Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.) pointed to Clintons efforts on education while serving as first lady of Arkansas, recalling how he attended a one-room school while growing up in the state.
You cant take away that kind of engagement, that kind of involvement, that kind of knowledge, that kind of awareness, he said.
Rep. Marc Veasey (D-Texas), another Clinton supporter, acknowledged Sanderss success in attracting younger voters. Still, he said the unique politics of New Hampshire make Tuesdays results a poor gauge of things to come.
It doesnt concern me at all, Veasey said. The district that I represent is heavily Hispanic and African-American, and hardly anyone that Ive talked to even with everything thats happened I dont hear anyone talking about Bernie. ... So I feel good.
Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.), chairman of the CBC PAC, said Clinton received 90 percent of the vote from the groups 20-member board. There was no support for Sanders, but several members abstained, preventing a unanimous vote for Clinton.
The majority of the CBCs 46 members have endorsed Clintons bid.
read: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/269037-black-lawmakers-sprint-to-clintons-aid
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bigtree
(85,998 posts)...silly to ask why.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)I guess I should have read the comments before I posted. I'm with you. We keep hearing that she has SC all locked up so why are they all scrambling down to SC? Very interesting.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)So her winning them is meaningless for the general election where she will losek, even ot Satan or Trump.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)mgmaggiemg
(869 posts)thanks
hoosierlib
(710 posts)I doubt average voter will be swayed...political endorsements only further re-enforces Bernie's message...
Beacool
(30,250 posts)He too is part of the establishment.
He's been an independent...beaten challengers from both parties...
Beacool
(30,250 posts)He IS part of the establishment.
hoosierlib
(710 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:38 AM - Edit history (1)
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)any party that helps him to the presidency.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)hoosierlib
(710 posts)Bernie has been an left leaning independent until he decided to run for President...how can you claim is part of the establishment?
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)been in government for how long? And chooses until Now to become a democrat?
hoosierlib
(710 posts)And he has caucused with the Democrats most of his time in Congress and the Senate.
Butt-hurt because "it's her turn"?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Don't bother making it.
Welcome to the new DU.
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)and moaning about the CBC enforcing Hilary and not Bernie is the text book definition of Butt-hurt. I guess since they did they REALLY don't care about Black people. If only black people knew what was really good for them. Yeah, butt hurt.
hoosierlib
(710 posts)Join the revolution or get left behind...
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...and I would be surprised (maybe not) to find suggestions here that these black legislators shouldn't hold and exercise their political clout in support of those who they feel would advance the issues and concerns of their constituency.
hoosierlib
(710 posts)Again, it just makes the "establishment" label stick and this year, that is NOT a good thing
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...and it highlights a flaw in this anti-establishment schtick of Sanders and his supporters.
This particular political establishment was hard-fought for, through discrimination and outright obstruction of the black vote. It should be defended and cherished, not made the subject of petty political attacks on behalf of a pol from Vermont.
hoosierlib
(710 posts)they just don't want to be on the Clinton's enemy list...
bigtree
(85,998 posts)..your suggestion that they're afraid of Hillary is just offensive and insulting to these principled congressmen (and women).
These are thoughtful and accomplished legislators who I certainly give credit for knowing their own minds and I respect their choice in this election.
hoosierlib
(710 posts)The Clintons are well known for being vindictivrle and for punishing those who challenge them.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...suggesting they're supporting her out of fear is some novel horseshit.
hoosierlib
(710 posts)Most politicians are spineless...
And HRC's vindictiveness is well documented...
Carolina
(6,960 posts)is working hard to inform voters that they are be used by the Clintons. When I remind folks of Bill and Hill's behavior against BHO in 2008 and ask what exactly have the duo done for black people... light bulbs go on. The Clinton legacy for blacks has been awful and reminders about it need to be spread widely.
The CBC has several 3rd wayers in it, too.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)"They argue that the former first lady has a stronger legislative record on issues important to their constituents compared to what they view as mere rhetoric from Sanders."
jonestonesusa
(880 posts)And what did they leave out?
hoosierlib
(710 posts)Bernie marched with MLK and was fucking arrested for trying to desegregate student housing during his time at the University of Chicago...
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)I thought Hillary had SC all wrapped up? Why does she need so many in the Black Caucus to go to SC to campaign for her if she already has it locked up? This is very interesting.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...understandable for Sanders supporters to get defensive about this overwhelming support from these important and influential legislators, but this isn't a campaign satisfied with sitting on a polling lead. They intend to fight for every vote.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)I'm actually glad to see this. They wouldn't be traveling to SC to campaign if they didn't think that there was a possibility that Sanders might appeal to African American voters. This is good.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...as an advantage for Sanders.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)I never said anything about it being an advantage for Sanders?
jonestonesusa
(880 posts)And she absolutely should remember these particular constituents if she is elected. The bottom line is to make progress to help support all American lives, including black lives - beyond the photo ops. Sanders too - every candidate has more to prove than whether they can win. So, for all of our sakes, this election and the governance to follow had better be about the issues rather than the horse race. The CBC needs to keep this in mind too - there's accountability for everyone when all is said and done.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)As a Sanders supporter I obviously hope she isn't elected but I agree, if she is elected she better remember who got her there. I too hope we get some good coverage about the issues (doubtful but hopeful).
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Hillary is going to run up the margins against Berns.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)That's a good point that they want to try to run up the margins, as you say. Thank you.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)I hope that the African Americans of South Carolina are smarter than the Black Caucus members take them to be. The more this goes on the more I am disgusted with Hillary. She can not a general election so a vote for her is a vote for a Republican president, a Republican controlled House and Senate. Very scary.
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)Really?
BTW, telling AA in SC that they need to be "smarter" than the Black Caucus is not going to win points for your side.
jonestonesusa
(880 posts)I remember a few remarks about Obama's being an empty suit before Ciinton made him her BFF.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Seminars on how to talk to black women are being held
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...is that for real?
Smh.