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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:14 PM Feb 2016

Sanders adviser was convicted of union embezzling

By Brian Mahoney

A consultant for Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign was convicted of embezzling money from a labor union three years ago, after he was caught stealing funds from the United Steelworkers, according to court records.

Chuck Rocha, whose firm Solidarity Strategies has brought in $204,000 from the Sanders campaign, was hired to extend the Vermont senator's reach into the Latino community. Court and Labor Department records claim that he used the union's money to buy Stanley Cup Finals tickets and pay for golf trips to Myrtle Beach, S.C., and Florida.


Rocha pleaded guilty in 2013 to one felony count of union embezzlement for stealing funds from the United Steelworkers union in 2008 and 2009, when he was its political director. He also “acknowledged responsibility for the other 17 counts,” according to the Labor Department’s Office of Labor-Management Standards
. His plea deal barred him from working as an officer or agent at a labor organization until 2026.

Rocha wasn't a merely a rank-and-file member of the Steelworkers back then: Political directors are the main points of contact between union leadership and policymakers, and they often have unfettered access to union coffers. Rocha managed a $30 million budget in his position, according to an online biography.


Read more: hhttp://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-union-embezzle-campaign-consultant-218567
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Sanders adviser was convicted of union embezzling (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 OP
Dupe and double dupe posts. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #1
Guess we better get a complete list of Clinton staffers John Poet Feb 2016 #19
Probably all sorts of interesting things. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #22
Well when you can't discuss issues you have to go with what you know. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #49
Yeah, but Clinton got paid for a speech to the American Camping Association and UCLA. Hoyt Feb 2016 #2
It's the millions from Wall Street that are the problem. But you knew that. merrily Feb 2016 #35
Wow! Certainly a bombshell like this deserves a cluster of threads! Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #3
and this one earlier today. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #4
Hey! Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #5
Sanders supporters complaining about a glut of posts on the same subject? bigtree Feb 2016 #48
Go ahead, read the link. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #53
No kidding. Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #59
Do you really want to play "who has the most unsavory associates"? Arazi Feb 2016 #6
If he worked for Hillary, DU would be spammed with Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #8
Hillary loves Kissinger whose on her list of 'advisors" Arazi Feb 2016 #10
That makes it OK for Bernie to have a Union embezzler on the payroll? nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #11
He's vetted and Recced by the Dem party Arazi Feb 2016 #14
So the Sanders campaign isn't doing simple background checks to check for felons? The guys a felon. stevenleser Feb 2016 #15
He is perfect Steve just stop!! bravenak Feb 2016 #33
LOL, exactly. They love to attack and change the subject but are such delicate flowers. Check this stevenleser Feb 2016 #36
Always bravenak Feb 2016 #41
That makes it the DNC's fault and not his. John Poet Feb 2016 #24
Nope. When you want to be President you have to be responsible for stuff like this. stevenleser Feb 2016 #27
Obama keeps Petraeus as an "advisor" so yeah, I guess if convicted criminals Arazi Feb 2016 #54
And responsible for wars you vote for Politicalboi Feb 2016 #56
I believe he completed his sentencing. Perogie Feb 2016 #50
Would that make it better for Bernie? nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #9
Well certainly bad for Clinton-who-plays-kissy-face-with-Kissinger Arazi Feb 2016 #12
Any of that make it ok for Bernie to have a Union Embezzler on the payroll? nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #13
Take it up with DWS, she's ok with it Arazi Feb 2016 #17
Nope. Bernie wants to be POTUS. He needs to be responsible for stuff like this. stevenleser Feb 2016 #20
Hillary loves war criminals and has them as her advisors Arazi Feb 2016 #26
The Berniebros response wont work. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #28
Your explanation of why you changed your tone on Hillary is still bunk. retrowire Feb 2016 #45
It doesnt matter what you think. Its my explanation of my feelings. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #46
It doesn't matter what I think? retrowire Feb 2016 #51
HilLIARy loves war Politicalboi Feb 2016 #57
So Bernie supporters have no problem with an embezzler on their side? Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #18
Yep. They think the Berniebro response of attacking the messenger or attacking Hillary will help. stevenleser Feb 2016 #21
You loving some Kissinger I see? Arazi Feb 2016 #23
The Berniebros response wont work. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #25
Hillary and Kissinger Arazi Feb 2016 #29
LOL, you wish! War criminals my friend... Arazi Feb 2016 #31
Which would be relevant in an OP about them. Otherwise its a Berniebros response. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #32
My comment was that getting into whose got the worst advisors contest Arazi Feb 2016 #38
...doesnt help make it better for Bernie. There, finished your subject for you. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #39
Shrug, take it up with DWS. Arazi Feb 2016 #42
Nope, a President or someone who aspires to be can't hide behind other people's decisions. stevenleser Feb 2016 #43
I'll make it simple - it doesn't matter Arazi Feb 2016 #47
Do you know how Truman got his start in politics? Perogie Feb 2016 #55
Is it recycling day already? Good for you! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #7
Clinton's husband lied under oath. Your point? n/t Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #16
This is disturbing bravenak Feb 2016 #30
You're disturbed by this and not Kissinger advising HRC? Arazi Feb 2016 #34
Kissinger? bravenak Feb 2016 #37
I think I'm just going to let you have the last word here Arazi Feb 2016 #40
Sounds like he paid his dues for his crime Perogie Feb 2016 #44
Clinton was complicate in the murder of 1/2 million Iraqis bowens43 Feb 2016 #52
Things keep being discovered and revealed. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #58
Yeah....felons should be never be forgiven no matter what they do or how long they are punished. Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #60
Interesting article Gothmog Feb 2016 #61

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. Dupe and double dupe posts.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

But no one in Camp Weathervane can stop bringing up the same crap over and over hoping it will stick.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
19. Guess we better get a complete list of Clinton staffers
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:54 PM
Feb 2016

and DOXX them.

Who knows what one might find.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
49. Well when you can't discuss issues you have to go with what you know.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:18 PM
Feb 2016

Apparently Hillary supporters don't have anything positive to say about their candidate.

The guilt by association fallacy isn't the best choice though.

Kissinger and Brock are just two...

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
5. Hey!
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:24 PM
Feb 2016

Searching is hard work and much too technical for the Hillary crowd. There's a special place in hell for those who search!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
53. Go ahead, read the link.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:26 PM
Feb 2016

Funny what generates all sorts of breathless, flappy-handed outrage, and what people choose to ignore.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
10. Hillary loves Kissinger whose on her list of 'advisors"
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:49 PM
Feb 2016

The Clinton camp's list of bad guys associated with them is a mile long and very ugly

You do realize this guy is on the DNC's recommended list right? Maybe you can take it up with DWS about why she thinks this guy is okey dokey for Dems to put on their team

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. So the Sanders campaign isn't doing simple background checks to check for felons? The guys a felon.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:52 PM
Feb 2016

A $30 background check would have caught this.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
33. He is perfect Steve just stop!!
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:00 PM
Feb 2016

You start loving bernie right now!!! Or else I'm coming back to your facebook and I WILL COMMENT ABOUT YOU!!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
36. LOL, exactly. They love to attack and change the subject but are such delicate flowers. Check this
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:02 PM
Feb 2016

post I was just asked to serve as juror on: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016144028

Of course it was hidden like most OPs that are critical of Sanders these days.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
41. Always
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:07 PM
Feb 2016

Thats why I just post the link and no text. Its the text that gives people something to hide.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
27. Nope. When you want to be President you have to be responsible for stuff like this.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:57 PM
Feb 2016

You can't shift responsibility.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
54. Obama keeps Petraeus as an "advisor" so yeah, I guess if convicted criminals
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:30 PM
Feb 2016

Who leaked classified information are okay advising the President, then this is exactly what it is - a big nothing.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
56. And responsible for wars you vote for
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:31 PM
Feb 2016

I would rather have this mistake than deaths of innocent people. I've never seen such desperation.

Perogie

(687 posts)
50. I believe he completed his sentencing.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:21 PM
Feb 2016

Are you saying that someone that fulfills their obligation to the courts shouldn't be given a second chance?

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
12. Well certainly bad for Clinton-who-plays-kissy-face-with-Kissinger
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:50 PM
Feb 2016

as one of her "advisors" right off the top of my head

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
17. Take it up with DWS, she's ok with it
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:52 PM
Feb 2016

or you can read the other three threads on this today alone.

Good luck!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
20. Nope. Bernie wants to be POTUS. He needs to be responsible for stuff like this.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:54 PM
Feb 2016

Welcome to the bigs.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
45. Your explanation of why you changed your tone on Hillary is still bunk.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:14 PM
Feb 2016

How does one simply have a change of heart because Hillary conceded defeat to Obama?

It's a simple question. But since you're not above school yard tactics such as name calling, I'll await a legitimate answer or an inevitable "I'm proud to be a victim of the Bernie Bros" comment.

Basically, you still haven't cleared your credibility.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
51. It doesn't matter what I think?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016

You're right. If you hold yourself in high esteem then good for you. You can look in the mirror in the morning and be happy with yourself.

But regarding your credibility and trustworthiness to others? You can't really change that without an explanation to others.

You don't owe me anything. But without understanding truly why you had such a flop in preference, without understanding why the words you said then somehow don't apply to the Hillary of 2016, I just can't trust you.

And your further opinions are consistently vapid to me.

I think you are capable of honesty, and I believe you're capable of being a good person. But when I stack the stevenleser of today with the stevenleser of the past, I see someone who spoke valid truth then, and someone who writes scathing attacks and "bernie bro" insults today.

That kind of mix doesn't add up to someone that I can take seriously. I don't mean to offend. I just mean to say that I like having faith in people who have good minds. And I don't know what to think of you.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
18. So Bernie supporters have no problem with an embezzler on their side?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:53 PM
Feb 2016

O.K then.............................

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
21. Yep. They think the Berniebro response of attacking the messenger or attacking Hillary will help.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

It won't.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
23. You loving some Kissinger I see?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

Here let me take it slowly...

He's recommended by the DNC

they are recommending embezzlers to the candidates

http://directory.democrats.org/solidarity-strategies/

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
38. My comment was that getting into whose got the worst advisors contest
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:03 PM
Feb 2016

would be bad for HRC.

That's what this subthread is about. It's called a discussion and sometimes that doesn't go the way the OP or you wants.

Sucks sometimes

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
42. Shrug, take it up with DWS.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:08 PM
Feb 2016

Faux, manufactured outrage.

Since you're ok with war criminals, it makes perfect sense why you'd think an embezzler approved by the DNC would be the greater travesty.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
43. Nope, a President or someone who aspires to be can't hide behind other people's decisions.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:10 PM
Feb 2016

The buck stops here.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
47. I'll make it simple - it doesn't matter
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:16 PM
Feb 2016

If having a war criminal as one of your advisors isn't a problem, then this isn't a problem.

But you knew that.

Your days at Faux are not doing good things for you Steve. I'm worried about you. You're picking up some bad habits like manufacturing outrage.

Perogie

(687 posts)
55. Do you know how Truman got his start in politics?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:30 PM
Feb 2016

Pedergast was pretty corupt. Without his help getting Truman started in politics we may not have had one of the best Presidents this country has seen.

Hiring a company that hired an ex-felon isn't that bad.


Best wishes

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
34. You're disturbed by this and not Kissinger advising HRC?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:01 PM
Feb 2016

Oh that's right, you don't care either that Hillary's also drenched in blood

Carry on

Perogie

(687 posts)
44. Sounds like he paid his dues for his crime
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:11 PM
Feb 2016

Great that he has the ability to rehabilitate himself and not be a burden on society.

Good job Bernie for giving people that pay for their crimes a second chance.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
60. Yeah....felons should be never be forgiven no matter what they do or how long they are punished.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:16 PM
Feb 2016

Those evil people should have no rights, money, voting privileges, standing in society (other than forced laborer), forever and ever amen.


How many here have...colorful pasts? How many here have family members with colorful pasts?
Do you support the disenfranchisement of 1/6th of the male African American population due to felony records? Records caused by an inherently racist criminal justice system.

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