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This Jay Carney assertion (Original Post) Merryland Feb 2016 OP
Surely nobody is surprised by this, at all. That he said it is maybe what you are Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #1
Why? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #2
Carney revealing it is tactical. That is the surprise for me. virtualobserver Feb 2016 #7
Yes, it's the hand-on-the-scale thing Merryland Feb 2016 #10
That's true. Hadn't thought of it that way Arazi Feb 2016 #11
Obama would be smart to keep his nose out of this tularetom Feb 2016 #3
It's his 'legacy'. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #14
I never saw Obama fight hard for anything except the ACA and TPP. earthshine Feb 2016 #15
Really? NurseJackie Feb 2016 #4
Why? Gothmog Feb 2016 #5
It is neither disturbing nor surprising. nt. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #6
No surprise. Bill Clinton endorsed Obama in 2012 eom Arazi Feb 2016 #8
Carney says: PonyUp Feb 2016 #9
WOW, They're Not Just Throwing The Kitchen Sink At Him... ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #12
Bernie is a major challenge to the direction of the Democratic Party. plus5mace Feb 2016 #13
okay Carney you get the book deal olddots Feb 2016 #16

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
1. Surely nobody is surprised by this, at all. That he said it is maybe what you are
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:20 PM
Feb 2016

referring to, in that the Clinton campaign, feeling the pressure, asked for them to say it.

But of course he supports her.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. Why?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

I would have called it completely expected. She's basically been running claiming to be his third term, 'protecting his legacy'.

He's a centrist, she's a centrist. No surprises at all.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
7. Carney revealing it is tactical. That is the surprise for me.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

This is Obama putting his thumb on the scale.....that disappoints me.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
11. That's true. Hadn't thought of it that way
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

i just saw it as quid pro quo for Bills endorsement in 2012

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. Obama would be smart to keep his nose out of this
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

Unless the TPP is even a bigger deal to him than we thought.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
15. I never saw Obama fight hard for anything except the ACA and TPP.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

ACA - warmed over republican health insurance. A giveaway to the insurance companies. And now, they are all raising the rates.

TPP - The clearest indication that Obama does not care about the working class.

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
5. Why?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

There is a vast difference in how Sanders supporters and Sanders view President Obama and how other Democrats view President Obama. I admit that I am impressed with the amount accomplished by President Obama in face of the stiff GOP opposition to every one of his proposals and I personally believe that President Obama has been a great President. It seems that this view colors who I am supporting in the primary http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-sanders-obama_us_56aa378de4b05e4e3703753a?utm_hp_ref=politics

But lurking behind this argument about the future is a dispute that's really about the past. It’s a debate over what Obama accomplished in office -- in particular, how significant those accomplishments really are. And it's been simmering on the left for most of the last seven years.

On one side of this divide are activists and intellectuals who are ambivalent, disappointed or flat-out frustrated with what Obama has gotten done. They acknowledge what they consider modest achievements -- like helping some of the uninsured and preventing the Great Recession from becoming another Great Depression. But they are convinced that the president could have accomplished much more if only he’d fought harder for his agenda and been less quick to compromise.

They dwell on the opportunities missed, like the lack of a public option in health care reform or the failure to break up the big banks. They want those things now -- and more. In Sanders, they are hearing a candidate who thinks the same way.

On the other side are partisans and thinkers who consider Obama's achievements substantial, even historic. They acknowledge that his victories were partial and his legislation flawed. This group recognizes that there are still millions of people struggling to find good jobs or pay their medical bills, and that the planet is still on a path to catastrophically high temperatures. But they see in the last seven years major advances in the liberal crusade to bolster economic security for the poor and middle class. They think the progress on climate change is real, and likely to beget more in the future.

It seems that many of the Sanders supporters hold a different view of President Obama. Again, I am not ashamed to admit that I like President Obama and think that he has accomplished a great deal which is why I do not mind Hillary Clinton promising to continue President Obama's legacy.
 

PonyUp

(1,680 posts)
9. Carney says:
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016
"I think he is maintaining that tradition of not intervening in a party primary," he added. "But I don't think there is any doubt that he wants Hillary to win the nomination and believes she would be the best candidate in the fall and the most effective as president in carrying forward what he has achieved."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/who-does-obama-want-to-be-president-219097#ixzz3zoJFKYKh

Didn't Obama just intervene?

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
12. WOW, They're Not Just Throwing The Kitchen Sink At Him...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:31 PM
Feb 2016

they're LOWERING THE BOOM on him!!! So much for Democracy!

This only makes me more determined, I'm SICK OF THIS CRAP! THEY don't get to choose for me! If I HAVE to vote for Hillary this time, I will... but after that... See Ya!

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