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theaocp

(4,237 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:31 PM Feb 2016

Tell me why the banks aren't

too big to fail right now? I know Clinton keeps talking about how she'll follow the process of Dodd-Frank, IF those banks are shown to pose a systemic risk to the economy, but this implies they're not already posing a such a risk. Who out there thinks everything in the banking industry is not posing this risk?

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Tell me why the banks aren't (Original Post) theaocp Feb 2016 OP
Everything poses a risk metroins Feb 2016 #1
The tax payers are not supposed to be the back up plan. If corporations don't want to liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #5
Welcome to 1968. KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #7
The banks are bigger than in 2008. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #2
I imagine so and that's why theaocp Feb 2016 #3
kick for more thoughts theaocp Feb 2016 #4
Quick: can you name the banks already broken up under Dodd-Frank? Recursion Feb 2016 #6
No, I can't, which is the point of the post. theaocp Feb 2016 #8
"systemically important" is the only category recognized in Dodd-Frank Recursion Feb 2016 #9
Did I misunderstand Clinton theaocp Feb 2016 #11
It's an unnecessary sword hanging over us. mmonk Feb 2016 #10
She is just using weasel words. Will say anything to get elected. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #12

metroins

(2,550 posts)
1. Everything poses a risk
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:37 PM
Feb 2016

Walmart goes down, economy goes down.
Large Oil goes down, economy goes down.
FANG (Facebook,Amazon,Netflix,Google) go down, everything goes down.

There will always be a risk; there just needs to be a backup plan.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
5. The tax payers are not supposed to be the back up plan. If corporations don't want to
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:30 PM
Feb 2016

pay taxes to pay for healthcare, education, SS, and other social services then they don't get our tax money when they fail. You can't or I should say shouldn't because they do but they shouldn't privatize profit and socialize loss. That is not the way it is supposed to work.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
7. Welcome to 1968.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:07 AM
Feb 2016

I was born in 1951. My father was a Republican and would rather fall on his sword than face the fact his daughter was hanging on the words of civil rights leaders.

Although I'm wrong on that as well. For the rich it's always been a government bailouts. For the rest of us it's always been bootstraps. Roman tax collectors squeezing the people so the rich could live in luxury was old news at the time. Monarchies around the world have fallen because excessive greed at the top sucked the life out of the land. It's as old as money... maybe older.

Someday I hope the Bernie Sanders' of the world win.

theaocp

(4,237 posts)
3. I imagine so and that's why
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

I feel her promise to follow through is nonsense. If you don't think they pose a systemic risk, you're either ignorant or deliberately obtuse. I'm open to opposing viewpoints.

theaocp

(4,237 posts)
4. kick for more thoughts
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:28 PM
Feb 2016

especially tonight. who thinks the banks don't pose a systematic risk right the fuck now?!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. Quick: can you name the banks already broken up under Dodd-Frank?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:37 PM
Feb 2016

No?

Did you know that banks judged to be "systemically important" have already failed stress tests and been broken up? Nobody mentioned that to you? That's kind of interesting, isn't it, that the law is doing what it said it would, and people seem to be going out of their way to avoid talking about it.

theaocp

(4,237 posts)
8. No, I can't, which is the point of the post.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:25 AM
Feb 2016

I'll infer by your response that you have the information you allude to and would be happy to provide it. I don't believe "systemically important" is the same thing as posing a "systemic risk" to our economy. Please enlighten me as to how you believe the banks are not too big to fail. I'll wait.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. "systemically important" is the only category recognized in Dodd-Frank
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:26 AM
Feb 2016

And AFAIK it's identical to "too big to fail".

For starters, look up Met Life's stress test, and why they were broken up.

theaocp

(4,237 posts)
11. Did I misunderstand Clinton
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:00 AM
Feb 2016

when she has spoken about posing systemic risks to our economy? Further, do you believe there are banks right now that are too big to fail?

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
10. It's an unnecessary sword hanging over us.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:33 AM
Feb 2016

I cannot accept the status quo because it accepts money which sells out our safety and security. They are no friend to any citizen bottom line.

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