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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAfter Sanders' Big Win in New Hampshire, Establishment Figures Want to Scare You with Superdelegates
Here's Why It's Bullshit
Bernie Sanders win in the New Hampshire primary Tuesday night came with some pretty impressive footnotes:
1. His margin of victory was the highest for a non-incumbent candidate in any state since JFK.
2. He won almost every demographic groupmale, female, young, old, moderate, liberal, college educated, high school-educatedwith the exception of voters making more than $200,000 per year.
3. He became the first Jewish candidate to win a state primary in U.S. history.
4. He became the first non-Christian candidate to win a state primary in U.S. history.
(snip)
The narrative has changed, which means that establishment figures are duty-bound to change it back. If youre an avid follower of politics, you may have seen tweets like these in the aftermath of the win:
(snip)
Oh no, you might be thinking, look at those delegate totals! Hes getting killed! The New Hampshire primary is meaningless! He didnt even really win! On the Sanders Reddit page this morning, users were asking whether the whole primary process was a Sisyphean task, and if victory was impossible.
Make no mistake: Thats the point of this kind of messaging. To discourage, dismay, and dishearten, in the wake of something that should feel really positive for Sanders supporters. Reality check: The system is bigger than you, and you cant change it, so go home.
I have no clue if Timothy McBride has any affiliation or even affection for Hillary Clinton, and he was certainly not alone in advancing this talking point. What I do know is that he tweeted these statistics out last night and again this morning, and whatever his intentionsand those like himClinton herself could not have written a better media script.
So whats happening here? Are those delegate counts right?
(snip)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251
This is a good explanation of how the process works and the motivation behind those misleading tweets etc. it's well worth the read.
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After Sanders' Big Win in New Hampshire, Establishment Figures Want to Scare You with Superdelegates (Original Post)
Uncle Joe
Feb 2016
OP
I'm not afraid of them, that's the point of the article, how propaganda is used to mislead the
Uncle Joe
Feb 2016
#4
All that tweeting and talk of super delegates after Bernie's lopsided win in New Hampshire
Uncle Joe
Feb 2016
#8
It's just scare tactics, the people need to throw that cereal in their face. n/t
Uncle Joe
Feb 2016
#17
seaotter
(576 posts)1. Have no fear.
These are mere "endorsements" at this time. Super delegates do not count until they cast their vote.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)2. I know, the author makes that point in the article.
riversedge
(70,239 posts)3. who is the establishment that you are afraid of? these superdelegates have
been here since the beginning of the campaign. And only now you are all hot and bothered.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)4. I'm not afraid of them, that's the point of the article, how propaganda is used to mislead the
people into despair.
dchill
(38,497 posts)5. Yeah that's gonna backfire.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)8. All that tweeting and talk of super delegates after Bernie's lopsided win in New Hampshire
is just another sign of Clinton campaign/supporters fear as to what's happening among the people.
So they trot this out there as a means to discourage and create despair, and thereby dampening the peoples' will to vote.
dchill
(38,497 posts)7. They're trying to curb your enthusiasm.
To coin a phrase.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)10. If Hillary supporters want the superdelegates to choose the nominee,...
Then there's no reason for them to vote in the primaries.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)11. There you go.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)15. That's awesome.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)12. They're only digging their hole deeper.
By trying to discourage us with the super-delegates, they're exposing how undemocratic the process has become.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)14. they are making a a great case for bernie! nt
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)16. Yeah, it's hilarious.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)13. Good old voter depression
The Breakfast of Assholes.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)17. It's just scare tactics, the people need to throw that cereal in their face. n/t