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LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:00 PM Feb 2016

Why aren't we more concerned by the Repubs turning out more voters than we did in both IA and NH?

In both IA and NH, the Repubs turned out a record number of voters for them and their turnout walloped the Dem turnout in both states. In 2008, Dem turnout reached record levels and handily bested the Repub numbers.

Our turnout numbers are down significantly compared to 2008 while the Repub turnout has never been better. Why aren't more of us concerned about these turnout numbers? More importantly, how do go about reversing the foreboding low turnout trend? How are we going to overcome these voter count differentials?

We're down to three groups of Repub voters:
-- Trump - the angry, racist, xenophobic, anti-establishment voters
-- Cruz - the evangelical and hardcore conservative voters
-- Bush/Kasich/Rubio - the establishment and party loyalist voters

How are we going to convince voters (fickle Dems, indies and sane Repubs) who are supporting these Repub candidates to support the Dem candidate in November?

Yes, Sanders received 50K more votes than Trump did yesterday but all Repubs received over 30K more votes than our candidates did. How are we going to overcome that gap? How do we appeal to any of those types of voters?

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Why aren't we more concerned by the Repubs turning out more voters than we did in both IA and NH? (Original Post) LonePirate Feb 2016 OP
I am concerned casperthegm Feb 2016 #1
All Clinton voters will support Bernie RobertEarl Feb 2016 #2
I'm extremely concerned. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #3
I'm not concerned. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #4
DNC - See Debbie Wasserman Schultz Renaissance Man Feb 2016 #5
Lot of people don't vote... AOR Feb 2016 #6

casperthegm

(643 posts)
1. I am concerned
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:03 PM
Feb 2016

I worry that if Hillary gets the nod that she will lose some Sanders supporters and have trouble firing up her base. Plus, the gop generally can't stand her, so she will actually inspire a higher turnout for the gop as well.

At the same time, I have to admit that it's an uknown how many Clinton supporters would come over to Sanders if he got the nomination, or how his nomination would effect gop turnout.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. All Clinton voters will support Bernie
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:11 PM
Feb 2016

And Bernie will get most of the independents and quite a few republicans.




Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
3. I'm extremely concerned.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:20 PM
Feb 2016

Especially as the Clinton and Sanders camps seem more concerned with knocking lumps out of each other than attacking the real opposition.

Then there's Trump saying he could easily defeat Clinton, Sanders doesn't even get a look in as far as he's concerned.

Republican Donald Trump has said he would easily beat Democratic rival Hillary Clinton in a presidential contest for the White House.

The businessman with no political experience convincingly won the New Hampshire primary and has now laid out his strategy to go all the way.

"I can change the game because I really have a chance of New York," he told CBS on Wednesday morning.
South Carolina is next in the state-by-state contest to be Republican pick.

In the Democratic race, Nevada provides the next challenge, with Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders keen to carry on his momentum after a stunning victory over Mrs Clinton in New Hampshire.

But Mr Trump dismissed him as an unlikely nominee because of his proposed tax increase, and focused instead on the former secretary of state and first lady.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35544256

This man is a real threat to World peace, yet nobody is taking him seriously. Nobody took Hitler seriously either, also dismissing him as a buffoon.
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. I'm not concerned.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016

Iowa is a red state. there's more republicans than Democrats. New Hampshire is a bit of an outlier state. A lot of Independants, a few more Rs than Ds, but the state as a whole is somewhat libertarian. They're very independant. As the primaries move into the more blue states, we'll see more Dems voting.

Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
5. DNC - See Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:24 PM
Feb 2016

Voter turnout and voter outreach is something that lays at the feet of the party chair and the DNC. With the manner in which she's handled these primary debates (limiting the number of debates prior to the caucuses and primaries beginning), I'm not surprised that voter turnout is not as high as 2008.

We have to fix this, and quickly.

 

AOR

(692 posts)
6. Lot of people don't vote...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:33 PM
Feb 2016

struggling working people of all stripes, struggling blue collar people of all stripes, those in poverty of all stripes and others.

Sanders is doing well. He could do himself a favor by injecting more use of phrases like working class rather than the continued use of revived middle class in all his stumps. Sanders could do himself more favors by talking more about the struggles of those who deal with poverty every day and speaking clearly about homelessness. Sanders going forward must not become scripted and rehearsed in his delivery of his platform. I see signs of that already. Use some FDR lines. Use some MLK lines. Use some lines from fighters of the past. There are 50 percent of the people in this country existing on less than $27000 a year. Many much less than that. That point must be driven home by Sanders. You need more than the language of and appeals to the middle class to make headway among poor non-voters.

Just an opinion for whatever it's worth and one from a standpoint of someone who puts very little stock in elections only as the solution for what the working class and struggling face going forward.

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