2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie can win Massachusetts. Here's why.
No, it's not because Vermont borders Massachusetts. It's because of New Hampshire. More specifically, it's because of Cheshire, Hillsborough and Rockingham Counties. All border Massachusetts and are widely considered, in many ways, Boston suburbs. The media is out of Boston, and lots of folks commute to Boston and environs. All three went overwhelmingly for Bernie. But that's not all. Massachusetts has a ton of colleges, Bernie has been advertising there for some time and the zeitgueist is very different from 2008 when Hillary won by a large margin. The Berkshires are natural Bernie country and there is an affinity between Berkshirites and Vermonters.
valerief
(53,235 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)My theory about Vermont is that there's this weird thing about wanting to be bipartisan that comes into play. A republican has virtually no chance of winning a congressional race here, but state office is a different thing. I think we're posed to do it again this year, voting into office the affable republican lieutenant governor, Phil Scott. Drives me nuts.
TheBlackAdder
(28,201 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,201 posts).
Many of those large ships in the RI marinas are owned by out-of-state wealthy.
CT benefits her by being near NYC, as a lot of wealth is there. The further away, it changes.
And, I left out VT, because that's a given.
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cali
(114,904 posts)And I know that Greenwich, Darien, New Canaan etc, are not fertile ground for Bernie. I wonder about Bridgeport. It's majority PoC and a startling contrast to lower Fairfield County. The disparity in income is stark. It's the most unequal area in the entire country.
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The median income for a household in the city was $34,658, and the median income for a family was $39,571. Males had a median income of $32,430 versus $26,966 for females. The per capita income for the city was $16,306. About 16.2% of families and 18.4% of the population were below the poverty line, including 24.8% of those under age 18 and 13.2% of those age 65 or over. Since 1849, FSWINC, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization has provided care for individuals living in difficult socioeconomic situations in both Bridgeport and Fairfield.[62][63]
According to 2010 census data, the Bridgeport MSA, containing all of Fairfield County, is the most unequal region in America.[64][65]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeport,_Connecticut#Demographics
is slowly but surely getting to know Bernie.
I suspect as Massachusetts goes, so will we.
I will say there is a solid Trump following here also.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)I barely see anything political for anyone where I am in central MA outside of Trump signs and stickers. It's frightening.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Bernie needs to get the Obama voters to vote for him
Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)NOTE: We're in Litchfield County, which is the reddish part of CT.
cali
(114,904 posts)Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)Have seen lots of Bernie bumperstickers in this area and I have yet to see a Clinton one.
Paulie
(8,462 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)But having lived here for 45 years, I can't recall a single time anyone considered those places suburbs of Boston.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Western Mass is more liberal/progressive and Bernie may have a majority here.
Eastern Mass is more old school Kennedy Democrat and Hillary has an edge there.