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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:38 PM Feb 2016

Bernie can win Massachusetts. Here's why.

No, it's not because Vermont borders Massachusetts. It's because of New Hampshire. More specifically, it's because of Cheshire, Hillsborough and Rockingham Counties. All border Massachusetts and are widely considered, in many ways, Boston suburbs. The media is out of Boston, and lots of folks commute to Boston and environs. All three went overwhelmingly for Bernie. But that's not all. Massachusetts has a ton of colleges, Bernie has been advertising there for some time and the zeitgueist is very different from 2008 when Hillary won by a large margin. The Berkshires are natural Bernie country and there is an affinity between Berkshirites and Vermonters.

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cali

(114,904 posts)
2. We do that here in Vermont too, every few years
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:44 PM
Feb 2016

My theory about Vermont is that there's this weird thing about wanting to be bipartisan that comes into play. A republican has virtually no chance of winning a congressional race here, but state office is a different thing. I think we're posed to do it again this year, voting into office the affable republican lieutenant governor, Phil Scott. Drives me nuts.

TheBlackAdder

(28,201 posts)
7. Most of RI's wealth is waterside, inland is a lot of blight. CT is strong HRC near NYC.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016

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Many of those large ships in the RI marinas are owned by out-of-state wealthy.


CT benefits her by being near NYC, as a lot of wealth is there. The further away, it changes.


And, I left out VT, because that's a given.


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cali

(114,904 posts)
11. Thanks. I grew up in Fairfield County, CT
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:10 PM
Feb 2016

And I know that Greenwich, Darien, New Canaan etc, are not fertile ground for Bernie. I wonder about Bridgeport. It's majority PoC and a startling contrast to lower Fairfield County. The disparity in income is stark. It's the most unequal area in the entire country.

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The median income for a household in the city was $34,658, and the median income for a family was $39,571. Males had a median income of $32,430 versus $26,966 for females. The per capita income for the city was $16,306. About 16.2% of families and 18.4% of the population were below the poverty line, including 24.8% of those under age 18 and 13.2% of those age 65 or over. Since 1849, FSWINC, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization has provided care for individuals living in difficult socioeconomic situations in both Bridgeport and Fairfield.[62][63]

According to 2010 census data, the Bridgeport MSA, containing all of Fairfield County, is the most unequal region in America.[64][65]

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeport,_Connecticut#Demographics

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
9. RI
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:00 PM
Feb 2016

is slowly but surely getting to know Bernie.

I suspect as Massachusetts goes, so will we.

I will say there is a solid Trump following here also.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
15. A lot of unfortunate Trump support in MA too
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:42 PM
Feb 2016

I barely see anything political for anyone where I am in central MA outside of Trump signs and stickers. It's frightening.

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
12. Well, he can count on 2 votes in this CT household!
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:35 PM
Feb 2016


NOTE: We're in Litchfield County, which is the reddish part of CT.
 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
13. One other thing
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:38 PM
Feb 2016

Have seen lots of Bernie bumperstickers in this area and I have yet to see a Clinton one.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
14. I don't doubt it
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:41 PM
Feb 2016

But having lived here for 45 years, I can't recall a single time anyone considered those places suburbs of Boston.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
16. It can go either way
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:46 PM
Feb 2016

Western Mass is more liberal/progressive and Bernie may have a majority here.

Eastern Mass is more old school Kennedy Democrat and Hillary has an edge there.

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