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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:14 AM Feb 2016

It is simple Hillary...Just RELEASE THE DAMN SPEECH TRANSCRIPTS!

Did you praise wallstreet like most of us know you did? If not, the solution is simple, just release the transcripts.

This is very telling, because she is betting that not releasing them will cause her less grief than releasing them will. That is what scares me! What did she say to these firms?????

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It is simple Hillary...Just RELEASE THE DAMN SPEECH TRANSCRIPTS! (Original Post) Logical Feb 2016 OP
Pfft. It will be like the emails. Anything she doesn't want made public will be deleted. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #1
The clock is ticking. PonyUp Feb 2016 #2
So true! nt Logical Feb 2016 #12
And her followers wonder why there is a trust issue? casperthegm Feb 2016 #3
Good post! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #7
Thanks- can't believe Clinton group page banned me for it casperthegm Feb 2016 #9
Agreed...the issue won't go away. Punkingal Feb 2016 #4
Bet you are correct! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #5
Those speeches were dumb. hollowdweller Feb 2016 #6
sadly i don't think it helps her either way now 0rganism Feb 2016 #8
As soon as Bernie releases his personally paid Goldman Sachs transcripts! Paulie Feb 2016 #10
Lol! Good one! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #11
Reminds me of the hubbub over Romney's tax returns (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #13
Every Sanders surrogate should be beating that drum DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #14
Goldman Sachs is historically a very proprietary company el_bryanto Feb 2016 #15

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. Pfft. It will be like the emails. Anything she doesn't want made public will be deleted.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:17 AM
Feb 2016

That's why she is in exclusive control of all of her communications--that's why the private server was set up--so that she can hide and alter whatever she needs to for her Presidential run.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
3. And her followers wonder why there is a trust issue?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:19 AM
Feb 2016

This is just one example of many.

Of course when I tried to list the specific issues on the Hillary Group page I was promptly banned. So much for a civil discussion. I laid out my concerns, as listed below. Guess my tone wasn't respectful?

My post;

I can only answer for myself but here are a number of reasons I don't care for her/distrust her;

Her position on Keystone (or lack of one). She waited until the same week that Obama made his decision before announcing where she stood. That's not standing up for the environment. That's politics.

Wall Street money. Whether it's impression or reality, it's there and it can't help but make me wonder. Generally speaking, it's hard to imagine the banks and Wall Street throwing all of that money at her and saying "here you go, we don't expect anything in return." And if you haven't checked out the youtube video of Elizabeth Warren vs Hillary Clinton I recommend you do so.

Her opposition to Glass Stegall. Though I do recall her telling the banks to "cut it out." Thanks Hillary.

Her Iraq vote. You may be sick of hearing about it but it's a big deal. It was poor judgement and lack of foresight. Sanders saw that it would destabilize the region. And it did. Now we not have the legacy of the Iraq war, we have the current ISIS situation.

Speaking of that, there is the no-fly zone proposal. Another poor foreign policy decision. What happens when Russian jets cross that line? You have to be prepared for that and I don't see it.

The email and server investigation by the FBI. Sorry, it's real. It very well could end up being nothing in the end, but what if it's not? What if it drags on until the general election and then she gets indicted? Then you end up with a republican in the White House.

Gay marriage. You can see how she has flip flopped over the years, as confirmed via politifact. Another change based on the political winds.

All of this and more have led me to distrust her judgement and her authenticity.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
9. Thanks- can't believe Clinton group page banned me for it
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:00 PM
Feb 2016

I went back to look at it and there are posts there patting themselves on the back, saying "see, we allow anyone to post anything they want here."

Only it's not true, as I have been banned from the Hillary Clinton group page for posting it and can't reply to anything they've said in response to what I posted. Not exactly fair, but what I've come to expect from the Hillary supporters.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
4. Agreed...the issue won't go away.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:21 AM
Feb 2016

I have a theory about why she did those speeches, besides the money. She was letting them know she is on their side, so they would donate, and it worked. Andre Mitchell was talking about those speeches last night and basically saying it was dumb for her to do them, that no one has done that who was going to run for office. (I know, Andrea Mitchell.)

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
6. Those speeches were dumb.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:43 AM
Feb 2016

She must have been mentally lost in the 90's when she made them.

I would have thought as a senator she would have been more in touch with the mood of the country although maybe with all the wealth in NY she was insulated from that.

Basically those speeches allow Sanders to play the very successful game that Obama played against Romney.

Sanders isn't even calling for her to release them. He knows either way he wins and the press, hoping to sew acrimony rather than cover their differences in issues will report them in the worst possible light.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
8. sadly i don't think it helps her either way now
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:58 PM
Feb 2016

if she doesn't release the transcripts, people will assume the worst about them, and that she has something to hide

if she releases the transcripts, there will be a continuing argument about whether they are complete or redacted

probably still a better idea to release them than not, but she missed a nice window of opportunity right after the Thursday debate

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
14. Every Sanders surrogate should be beating that drum
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:25 AM
Feb 2016

She's had time to look into it. Release the transcripts. It's a simple thing. She has the transcripts and there is no legitimate reason not to release them.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
15. Goldman Sachs is historically a very proprietary company
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:30 AM
Feb 2016

One of the interesting bits about Flash Boys was how Goldman Sachs was fine using open source software but once they used it they claimed that they owned it. It's possible they may have an agreement in place giving Sachs control over the content of those speeches?

But that seems like a bit of a stretch.

Bryant

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