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First Debate Ad is out: 'Mitt Romney: What a Guy' (Original Post) TroyD Oct 2012 OP
PRICELESS!!!!! LOL LOL bigdarryl Oct 2012 #1
I don't see how that is "winning" behavior treestar Oct 2012 #2
OMZ!! I didn't see the debate but Cha Oct 2012 #3
K&R! Amonester Oct 2012 #4
I like the kooky music but... Mutiny In Heaven Oct 2012 #5
I think you're right that they can do some tinkering TroyD Oct 2012 #6
Call it the Bully! liberal N proud Oct 2012 #7
Totally agree Blueprogress Oct 2012 #38
This definitely showcases Rmoney's BlueMTexpat Oct 2012 #8
But let's not get overconfident TroyD Oct 2012 #12
The POTUS was not his usual self.. something was wrong.. I am beginning to think that secondwind Oct 2012 #9
'The POTUS was not his usual self.' TroyD Oct 2012 #13
Nothing important he needed to make sure he was prepared for jsmirman Oct 2012 #20
Obama won the debate Schema Thing Oct 2012 #33
And Cliff Clavin knew those three people weren't in his kitchen jsmirman Oct 2012 #43
He has a full time job, and the elevation in Denver might have bothered him nt adigal Oct 2012 #22
I agree... IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2012 #16
'This first debate was just an exploratory investigation' TroyD Oct 2012 #17
How will Mitt help them? LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #37
Obama let Mitt trip himself up with comments completely counter.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #19
'Mitt completely repudiated the views of the GOP/Tea Nazi far-right' TroyD Oct 2012 #21
very few people watch and fewer make it through a debate like this KurtNYC Oct 2012 #25
Watch the "Romney FIRED BIG BIRD", It is poignant and fun! CarmanK Oct 2012 #10
Mitt is paying the polluters back by shutting down PBS. Hubert Flottz Oct 2012 #14
Ha ha ha, they even used RW hack David Brooks to reiterate. HughBeaumont Oct 2012 #11
That's an ad aimed DIRECTLY at the women. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #15
Yeah, not a lot of men will understand that. Jennicut Oct 2012 #32
It's not the women we need to worry about TroyD Oct 2012 #35
Agreed, TahitiNut susanr516 Oct 2012 #39
I used to do a lot of management consulting, often working with owners and CEO's Not Me Oct 2012 #18
Coincidence? "What a guy" was my phrase yesterday KurtNYC Oct 2012 #23
Exactly how I saw it lalalu Oct 2012 #24
so now, can you see him with the scissors in his hands SemperEadem Oct 2012 #26
Good, but now lets get some liar ads out there. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #27
How well does the average person feel SemperEadem Oct 2012 #28
I wish you were right. kstewart33 Oct 2012 #31
Any way you can post a link polmaven Oct 2012 #29
Not sure how else I should post it TroyD Oct 2012 #34
I don't know why polmaven Oct 2012 #36
linky..humm Historic NY Oct 2012 #40
Romney won the debate . . . with Jim Lehrer. amb123 Oct 2012 #30
Maybe an old meme mkultra321 Oct 2012 #41
That made me remember this exchange in the Primary debates... FailureToCommunicate Oct 2012 #42
This number of voters who will see this, compared to the Doctor_J Oct 2012 #44
What an asshole. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #45

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. I don't see how that is "winning" behavior
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:43 AM
Oct 2012

Except to the admirers of bullies. this is obviously boardroom CEO behavior that will do no good in any political setting.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
3. OMZ!! I didn't see the debate but
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:45 AM
Oct 2012

read enough comments to know that was coming..this is Freaking PRICELESS!

What an Asshole hopped up on Red Bull.

"just kept streamrolling".. OMY

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
4. K&R!
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:46 AM
Oct 2012


I also want one with RobMe's admission of shipping jobs overseas in a Presidential debate (the fool thought it was funny! As funny as a 10 grand bet!).



Edited to add (from the transcript):

RMONEY: ....

"you get a deduction for taking a plant overseas. Look, I've been in business for 25 years. I have no idea what you're talking about. I maybe need to get a new accountant." .....

(Emphasis mine)

Mutiny In Heaven

(550 posts)
5. I like the kooky music but...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:47 AM
Oct 2012

they need that in an 'etch-a-sketch' ad now. Now. Now is the time to compare and contrast and make him look like a fool. I don't think this works because it's effectively the DNC trying to make a sow's purse out of what has been perceived as a pigs ear; they're reaching because, unfortunately, Romney's "forceful" behaviour is what enabled him to get the win.

The music needs to be in every ad, because Romney is an odd cookie. You need to marry it to the right material though.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
6. I think you're right that they can do some tinkering
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 05:55 AM
Oct 2012

I would recommend a series of ads on all the lies & flip-flops over the years.

Obviously the subject of abortion should be one, particularly advertised to women viewers. Play the lie Romney told in the Ted Kennedy debate where he says he will keep Roe v. Wade next to the excerpt of him saying in the GOP primaries that he wants to overturn it.

And slam him HARD.

Blueprogress

(64 posts)
38. Totally agree
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:13 AM
Oct 2012

That's all I saw from last night's debate. Rmoney is a big school yard bully. Mitt the filibuster. Were there any rules in that debate? Why did Jim even show up?

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
8. This definitely showcases Rmoney's
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:00 AM
Oct 2012

supreme sense of entitlement. "I think I should get the last word." Never respecting the rules when they are not in his favor illustrates his whole character.

I love it! You can't even make this up. Rmoney has provided enough fodder from now until the election.

Way to go, Dems!

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
12. But let's not get overconfident
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:07 AM
Oct 2012

I get nervous when I see too many chortling emoticons predicting Romney's downfall.

I'll celebrate after November 6 when Romney is hopefully gone.

Until then I don't want to jinx it.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
9. The POTUS was not his usual self.. something was wrong.. I am beginning to think that
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:00 AM
Oct 2012

THIS WAS INTENTIONAL.

Let Mitt spew his lies uncontrollably, and then make ads from them.. It's a big gamble, but it may just be what the doctor ordered!!!

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
13. 'The POTUS was not his usual self.'
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:08 AM
Oct 2012

My Dad watched the debate with me and said he thought Obama looked tired.

It could just be something like simple exhaustion from all the work he's done lately.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
20. Nothing important he needed to make sure he was prepared for
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:30 AM
Oct 2012

only the fates of the free and not free world.

Best case scenario if Romney wins: the Court is fucked for the rest of my lifetime.

Totally plausible scenario: we all die.

Thanks, Pres.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
16. I agree...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:28 AM
Oct 2012

... Obama let Mitt ramble on, perform Freudian slips, act condescending (did anyone else notice Mitt's "cute" little head tilt and smirk at times, as if he were looking at a cute puppy in a cage?) and paint himself into a corner with his hard sell, statements/half truths and lies. Let that resonate for a few weeks, then in the next debate pick everything apart. This first debate was just an exploratory investigation, so to speak.

And when Mitt gave the story of the, "young mother... whose husband lost 4 jobs in 3 years...", asks Mitt or Ann if they can help them, Mitt and/or Ann said, "Yes we(he) can". How? no explanation on how they can help that person's situation. What is Mitt going to do to, "help", them? Send them a box of feathers and tell them to be tickled pink? How does Mitt's pride in "tax deductions for shipping jobs overseas", fit in with this lady's predicament?

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
17. 'This first debate was just an exploratory investigation'
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:36 AM
Oct 2012

It's all well & good to go on an exploratory investigation, but I just don't want our poll numbers to come down too much in the meantime.

Remember there are other people's seats at stake too eg. The Senate

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
19. Obama let Mitt trip himself up with comments completely counter....
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:27 AM
Oct 2012

...to everything he has said before. Now he's trying to sell himself as a moderate? LOL!!

Think about it....Mitt completely repudiated the views of the GOP/Tea Nazi far-right. I wonder what they're thinking today?

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
21. 'Mitt completely repudiated the views of the GOP/Tea Nazi far-right'
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:39 AM
Oct 2012

Aren't they all in ecstasy today?

I think we're fooling ourselves if we think they are going to abandon Romney just because he lied and dumped some of his right-wing policies.

They're just glad that he's lying and they don't care how he gets there. They want Obama put in his place.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
25. very few people watch and fewer make it through a debate like this
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:54 AM
Oct 2012

but everyone will hear the spin and any phrases that stick.

Obama was looking down a lot while Romney was speaking. Probably making notes but the image on TV looked like Obama was sleeping. Almost like it was a superliminal suggestion to just tune out and go to sleep.

CarmanK

(662 posts)
10. Watch the "Romney FIRED BIG BIRD", It is poignant and fun!
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:00 AM
Oct 2012

Well at least we know one of the programs that Romney would cut in order to balance his dificit budget. He will go after Public TV and BIG BIRD. The big guy just loves to fire people, puppets, no matter.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
14. Mitt is paying the polluters back by shutting down PBS.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:20 AM
Oct 2012

Can't have the truth getting out about global warming and toxic waste dumps and mountain top removal mining.

Too many facts on PBS and that will never do.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
15. That's an ad aimed DIRECTLY at the women.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:21 AM
Oct 2012

(Most of us guys won't "get it.&quot They'd do well to run it on Lifetime or during shows like The View.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
32. Yeah, not a lot of men will understand that.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:34 AM
Oct 2012

Romney is a pretty big turnoff for a lot of women because he is rude, condescending, smug and smarmy. It came up in focus groups last night among women. As a woman, I would say this ad is right on about Mitt's personality.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
35. It's not the women we need to worry about
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:41 AM
Oct 2012

It's the men - particularly white men.

We need to keep some of that vote.

So we should be reaching out to them too.

susanr516

(1,425 posts)
39. Agreed, TahitiNut
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:22 AM
Oct 2012

I just played the ad for my husband, and said, "This is what women will remember, how rude and disrespectful Romney is." Women in business, especially older women like me, have been on the receiving end of that type of behavior for years. Alpha male behavior = entitled bully, imo. It made me so angry, I turned off the debate.

Not Me

(3,398 posts)
18. I used to do a lot of management consulting, often working with owners and CEO's
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:45 AM
Oct 2012

and this is very typical of their demeanor. They are used to getting whatever they want. All the time.
This ad goes there in 38 seconds.

 

lalalu

(1,663 posts)
24. Exactly how I saw it
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:50 AM
Oct 2012

I was really shocked at how Lehrer allowed Romney to get away with this. Romney behaved just like typical arrogant people who work in the top echelon of the financial world. I know I am related to a few of them and they are not at all likeable because of just this type of behavior.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
26. so now, can you see him with the scissors in his hands
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:06 AM
Oct 2012

hacking off that young man's hair while the poor guy was screaming in fear of his life? I can totally see where that came from.

This is how he's going to act when it comes to foreign leaders and our country will be at war with the world withing 6 months.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
28. How well does the average person feel
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:10 AM
Oct 2012

just hours after arriving in Denver? How do they feel the next day, after some sleep?

I'd say they feel the thin air quite acutely.

I think that that is what zapped Obama--mittiot was there the day before, got to get some sleep before the debate.

Keeping the free world free doesn't do much in the way of clearing your calendar so you can leisurely arrive the day before.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
31. I wish you were right.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:26 AM
Oct 2012

I've lived in Denver many years (a retired prof at the University of Denver), and I wish you were right. But while the altitude plays a big role for visiting teams in NFL games, if you're not exercising, it's really not a big deal. I felt a bit fatigued the first month or two after coming to Denver, but not significantly so.

Obama did look tired but it was probably because of all the middle east stress, especially given the events earlier yesterday.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
34. Not sure how else I should post it
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:40 AM
Oct 2012

It's a YouTube link to play the video.

I just copied and pasted the link here.

It's listed under Dem Rapid Response on YouTube.

Are you able to access YouTube?

polmaven

(9,463 posts)
36. I don't know why
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:59 AM
Oct 2012

I can't play any of the YouTube stuff lately!!! I will go to the site and see if that will do it....Thanks!

mkultra321

(58 posts)
41. Maybe an old meme
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:38 AM
Oct 2012

but I kept picturing Kanye to Taylor Swift at the Grammys "Im gonna let you finish..." kinda photo bombing in the middle of the debates. Romney just rolled over Jim Lehrer and President Obama.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,019 posts)
42. That made me remember this exchange in the Primary debates...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:43 AM
Oct 2012

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Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
44. This number of voters who will see this, compared to the
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:40 AM
Oct 2012

number who watched the debate itself, is tiny. Good response, but not comparable to Obama slapping his lies down in real time.

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