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Can't wait for the New and Improved Hillary (Original Post) SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 OP
I imagine that staff shakeup rumor Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #1
No, it's cool! They have a four page memo from her campaign to guide PatrickforO Feb 2016 #2
The problem is… regnaD kciN Feb 2016 #3
+100 840high Feb 2016 #7
+ another 100 senz Feb 2016 #9
She's in Brooklyn right now working on her accent :) Donkees Feb 2016 #27
Hillary the chameleon. There is no REAL Hillary. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #18
Arithmetic. fun n serious Feb 2016 #4
It's tough to fire up on a platform of status quo and defeatism, with a smidge of slow change. nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #5
True -- and well said, as always. senz Feb 2016 #8
There is nothing "fuzzy" about Bernie's math. senz Feb 2016 #6
fun n serious: what do you mean by "fuzzy math"? Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #11
Yes. I'll clarify. fun n serious Feb 2016 #16
magic wand. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #20
Impossible? They why should we get "fired up" and "do more"? Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #24
I predict we will see an uptick of somewhere between 70-80% in the use of "berniebro" in GD-P Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #10
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #12
I think she will try Hillary R. C. Sanders SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #13
Excuse me?! Flash gang signs? fun n serious Feb 2016 #17
this racist shit is all over DU this week. another thread says her campaign is "fuck white people" bettyellen Feb 2016 #19
I've noticed. fun n serious Feb 2016 #21
some have obviously given up courting AA votes. Like the bitter "men going it alone" dudes. bettyellen Feb 2016 #22
At least it got hidden BumRushDaShow Feb 2016 #25
Unfortunately the "fuck white people" post survived a jury. It's easy to get confused bettyellen Feb 2016 #30
Amen! BumRushDaShow Feb 2016 #31
I had another poster reply that maybe I would like to buss black people to NH..... bettyellen Feb 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #14
She will come off as a Mento commerical Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #15
She's watching "Bulworth" right now. nt mhatrw Feb 2016 #23
Why on earth would anything Hillary says be believable at this point? djean111 Feb 2016 #26
In her Iowa 'victory' speech Deny and Shred Feb 2016 #28
It'll be interesting to see how much she becomes more Bernie than Bernie HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #29

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
2. No, it's cool! They have a four page memo from her campaign to guide
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:31 AM
Feb 2016

them through March. There's going to be a staff shakeup, and her message will change. You'll notice the Third Way message that we should fear tax increases was abandoned for the far more populist message she gave tonight - a regular page out of Bernie's book!

The re-tooling should prove entertaining. But, who knows? Maybe the onion skin has been peeled off down to the core and we'll actually see the REAL Clinton.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
3. The problem is…
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:35 AM
Feb 2016

…I think "the real Hillary" is simply "the Hillary that really, really wants to be President," and will take on any persona (temporarily) to achieve that goal.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
6. There is nothing "fuzzy" about Bernie's math.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:54 AM
Feb 2016

He has clearly laid out the financing for each element of his platform.

Assuming you are actually interested, you can read it here:

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
11. fun n serious: what do you mean by "fuzzy math"?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:01 AM
Feb 2016

Are you talking about vote counts, delegate counts, superdelegate counts, electoral votes, etc??? (and if so, what does "fuzzy" mean?)

Or the financing of his policies such as free public college tuition?

Your second statement ("WE have to do more. We have to get fired up!&quot makes me think you meant vote counts, delegate counts, etc. But someone below thinks you meant that the math of financing his policy proposals "does not add up."

Could you clarify, please?

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
16. Yes. I'll clarify.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:27 AM
Feb 2016

His campaign promises are impossible to keep using any logic. Scholars have gone over and over health care reform. It is not as easy as he makes it seem. A magic wand won't fix congress or the supreme court.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
24. Impossible? They why should we get "fired up" and "do more"?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:57 AM
Feb 2016

Do what? I really don't understand your comment.

Should we get fired up and do more to work out the math? Say, double the small tax he proposes on Wall Street speculations, to pay for free tuition at public colleges, and maybe triple it for books, food, housing? Or, find out why universal health care works so well in Norway, France, England, Canada and other developed countries, and work to amend Bernie's proposals, if necessary, so they DO work as smoothly and as cheaply as in these other countries?

I don't think this is what you want--for Bernie's proposals to work. And if I'm right--you don't--then why did you say, "WE need to do more. We need to get fired up"?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. I predict we will see an uptick of somewhere between 70-80% in the use of "berniebro" in GD-P
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:57 AM
Feb 2016

don't expect a whole lot of policy changes, though.

Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. this racist shit is all over DU this week. another thread says her campaign is "fuck white people"
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:35 AM
Feb 2016

They embolden each other.

BumRushDaShow

(129,026 posts)
25. At least it got hidden
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:08 AM
Feb 2016
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I read that she will become Hillary Luther King
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It sucks.
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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
30. Unfortunately the "fuck white people" post survived a jury. It's easy to get confused
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

with all this anger at black voters on display. If you hate it, alert. It matters even if the original jury gave it a pass. This Rovian race baiting should not go unremarked upon. Even if I get alerted on -again- for pointing it out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1188808

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
32. I had another poster reply that maybe I would like to buss black people to NH.....
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:28 PM
Feb 2016

WTFingF? Do they even hear themselves?

Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Original post)

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
15. She will come off as a Mento commerical
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:00 AM
Feb 2016

With her new ''Fresh maker'' ''Change maker'' commercial

As we notice in her concession speech she is
''the change maker''. We saw that in the last week from Bill

Oh and don't forget the freshmaker commercial came out in 1992 ..... which was ridiculed by everyone



 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
26. Why on earth would anything Hillary says be believable at this point?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:19 AM
Feb 2016

She is merely changing her campaign blather.

Deny and Shred

(1,061 posts)
28. In her Iowa 'victory' speech
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:13 AM
Feb 2016

She was promising universal healthcare and debt-free college. Yesterday, she was pledging to crack down on Wall St and pursue tough campaign finance reform. Where did that come from ?

The pragmatic incrementalism is on its way out. Sounding a lot like Sanders is on its way in.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
29. It'll be interesting to see how much she becomes more Bernie than Bernie
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:48 AM
Feb 2016

I'm sure the attempt will be yooge, I expect it to cost her votes if she goes with the fringe hair.

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