2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKasich, is the new Bill Clinton.
I've warned for months he would emerge as the middle of the road guy that even lots of Democrats would vote for as well as a large portion of Independents.
Beware.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Kber
(5,043 posts)Who did NOT vote for him as gov, describe him as "not actually as bad as you'd think".
We run against him, we have a real fight on our hands.
He's anti choice, anti gay rights, pro school voucher, pro "religious conscience" laws and anti Union.
But he's smart and not balls to the walls nutz.
He'd take a decent percentage of independents and, depending on our candidate, blue dogs.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)yourout
(7,528 posts)things should be interesting on the Republican side until the next primary
Glamrock
(11,802 posts)I'll give him 10 hours...if that long.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)a call for civility and thoughtful conversations about " polishing America up." Not spreading fear and anger, yet remain as conservative as ever.
This will be the play and will spell the beginning of the end for Trump.
Leaseoption
(38 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)babbling idiot tonight.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)The GOP nomination is very obtainable to him. I will promise you this, I won't vote for a republican. It's Bernie or Hillary for me.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)It has nothing to do with Kasich.
Nanjeanne
(4,960 posts)He is an extremist when it comes to women's reproductive rights.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)But yes, dangerous because he appears reasonable, even if he is not.
Leaseoption
(38 posts)Joe Turner
(930 posts)John Kasich is a very much a Status Quo politican who's record on such issues as trade and health care will not sway many independent voters looking for change. He is the smiling face and the republican brand of poison. In any other election I'd say you are right. Not this time though.
hexola
(4,835 posts)I spent the summer in Ohio - and I was impressed with what seemed a prospering state...both public and private sector.
His history at FOX News is the baggage that might keep him down...
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)by many, a successful Governor of a "sorta" blue State. The Fox News stuff won't be part of the equation.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)He did too poorly in Iowa and cannot win in South Carolina. i will admit he took second in New Hampshire but there is not real road for him. Bill Clinton was an Arkansas Democrat that had a path into the South where he could maybe push ahead and gain a bit. Kasich does not have that advantage.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)He has no path to a win. The only states where Trump is going to be having to compete are going to be the hard core religious states. These are the states that Kasich cannot win. Kasich is not Mitt Romney. Hell, Mittens actually managed to win Iowa and New Hampshire in 2012 and that is the only way he was able to ignore South Carolina.
For the Republicans South Carolina is almost all important for filtering out the moderates.
Oh, and unlike the Democratic nominating process, the republicans do not give points for second place in New Hampshire so Kasich walks away with nothing. Again.
South Carolina either gets taken by Cruz or Trump depending upon whether xenophobia or fundamentalism is more important to right wing voters that week.
To skip South Carolina over you have to actually have a state in your pocket and Romney had two. Kasich is not even at room temperature in South Carolina.
Next we have Nevada where last polls were high for Trump again. Granted they are a bit old, but with almost no delegates under his belt he is going nowhere.
After that is Super Tuesday where at absolute best he might be able to squeak a few delegates in states that award them proportionately if he can manage to get any name recognition at all. Until today most people barely even knew who he was.
He might...might have a half of a chance to get some votes later on if he can perform in the next Republican debate but he will be trying to throw red meat to the reddest of red states against the biggest throwers of red meat in his party.
Again, he has no chance.
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)I don't want to see Trump, Kasich, Rubio, or Bloomberg as their nominee.
Roy Ellefson
(279 posts)a more polished Scott Walker
Kilgore
(1,733 posts)jen63
(813 posts)the alarm for a few months also. He is no moderate and is dangerous because he hides his crazy so well. He's in the process of approving the defunding of PP as we speak. Our schools and environment are a mess. HE is a mess.