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ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 10:56 PM Feb 2016

What has been Bernie's position over the years on the VT analog of Wall St corruption?

Every state has its own top industries, and its Senators tend to oppose policies that would hurt them outright, no matter how scandalous their behavior. IMO SBS's attacks on HRC's relationships with Wall Street would be the equivalent of an HRC campaign against billions of dollars in unconscionable dairy farm subsidies. See this webpage:

http://farm.ewg.org/progdetail.php?fips=00000&progcode=dairy

If you'll remember, the first agriculture bill the House passed for the current fiscal year ZEROED OUT food stamps (SNAP) entirely, so that long-wasteful farm subsidies could be increased, or at least not be cut.

The two biggest differences between VT dairy subsidies and protection of Wall St by NY ers are that

(1) the scale of NY is galactic compared to the scale of VT; and

(2)
there is nothing for a VT pol to lose by turning Wall St into a bogeyman, while upstate NY has some dairy farmers too.

If Bernie really is a progressive, has he been as consistent railing against dairy farm subsidies as he has been fomenting undifferentiated hostility against the Wall St "billionaire class"?

Damn autocomplete required me to edit in my lost URL shortly

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What has been Bernie's position over the years on the VT analog of Wall St corruption? (Original Post) ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 OP
Corrupt Corporate Cows warrprayer Feb 2016 #1
The top single corporate ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #2
22% lead right now. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #3
Off topic ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #6
Largest turnout ever for a NH primary. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #7
Please use your VTer knowledge ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #8
Bernie's in the pocket of Big Moo™? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #4
Rotf n/t warrprayer Feb 2016 #22
Hell no. Thank god for dairy subsidies cali Feb 2016 #5
Do you advocate raising ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #9
No. And I'm ok now, I think, with cali Feb 2016 #10
More important than Ben ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #11
You seem to be milking this topic for more than it is worth. mhatrw Feb 2016 #12
IMO Bernie's past record ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #16
OK, please dig up all the dung on Bernie and his indefensible cowtowing. mhatrw Feb 2016 #18
Please keep the bad puns ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #19
..... warrprayer Feb 2016 #23
kick ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author warrprayer Feb 2016 #26
Opps warrprayer Feb 2016 #27
Yes, out of state milk is allowed cali Feb 2016 #13
So which side does Bernie ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #14
Research it. I'm not your answer machine cali Feb 2016 #15
I first thought to title my reply ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #20
The big cows got bailed out with some hay from a bail of hay because they were too big to fail jfern Feb 2016 #21
Huh? ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2016 #25
Bad cows! warrprayer Feb 2016 #28

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
8. Please use your VTer knowledge
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:34 PM
Feb 2016

to address the issue I've raised in the OP.

From my reading of previous posts of yours, you seem to be maven about VT politics.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. No. And I'm ok now, I think, with
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:05 AM
Feb 2016

trimming- not slashing- dairy subsidies. Vermont's dairy industry has been significantly revitalized, in large part.because of value added proud, cheese being the most important.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
11. More important than Ben
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:27 AM
Feb 2016

& Jerry?

Do any federal or State laws deter the use of out-of Vermont milk to make ice cream, cheese, and other dairy products?

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
12. You seem to be milking this topic for more than it is worth.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:32 AM
Feb 2016

BTW, Sanders really creamed Clinton in New Hampshire.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
16. IMO Bernie's past record
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:24 PM
Feb 2016

with corrupt top economic interests in his state deserve just as much scrutiny as Hillary's. Why does Bernie demand a level of scrutiny for Hillary that he spares himself? He's breaking the Golden Rule of Politics, IMO.

BTW, the NH race for delegates up for grabs last night was a 15-15 tie, though you'd never know that from top-of-thread titles at GDP.

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/new-hampshire?lo=ut_d1

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
18. OK, please dig up all the dung on Bernie and his indefensible cowtowing.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:32 AM
Feb 2016

Let the chips fall where they may.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
19. Please keep the bad puns
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 07:02 AM
Feb 2016

coming. So far IMO you haven't topped the standard I set in post number 2 above: "raked in $13 m ... and that ain't hay!"

Response to ProgressiveEconomist (Reply #24)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. Yes, out of state milk is allowed
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:06 AM
Feb 2016

in value added products. The Vermont specialty food industry is a significant and growing piece of the state economy and its success rests almost entirely on three little words: Made in Vermont.

http://vtdigger.org/2015/02/22/vermont-brand-adds-value-rules-claiming-connection-complex/

From the article:
And while you must be based in Vermont to include the state in your company name, no such requirement exists for using the name of a Vermont town. Cabot Creamery, for example, is based in Cabot, Vermont, but uses milk from dairy farms located out of state and indeed outside of Cabot, and discloses this clearly on their front label. Therefore, it is perfectly legal to keep the name Cabot, but the creamery couldn’t legally be named “Vermont Creamery” or “Cabot Creamery of Vermont” without disclosing they contracted with farms outside of the state. Another example is Castleton Crackers, a Castleton, Vermont, based food company whose business expanded and temporarily relocated to Massachusetts before finding the right production facility in Castleton and returning to Vermont. Despite relocating out of state, at no point did Castleton Crackers have to change its name or front label, whereas it would have should it have been called “Vermont Crackers” or “Castleton Crackers of Vermont.”

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
14. So which side does Bernie
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:23 PM
Feb 2016

take in the economic battle that pits dairy farmers, who want higher prices and higher subsidies, against middle class and poor families and corporate milk buyers, who want lower prices? Most likely, like all pols, Bernie wants to be seen as both for and against both sides.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
17. I first thought to title my reply
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 12:44 AM
Feb 2016

"Thank you", but then though that title had no chance of inspiring
replies that would kick this thread.

A belated "thank you".

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