Hillary Gracious in Defeat,, concedes NH, Bernie doesn't concede Iowa, his supporters say Fixed.

[itsrobert]

Very big contrast between the two so far when they lose.

[Joe the Revelator]

1. You know what the bigger contrast is? The margin of victory. nt

[itsrobert]

3. And what does that have to do with congratulating the winner?

nothing!

[winter is coming]

6. He congratulated HRC and her campaign on the night of the Iowa caucuses. n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

8. Because the winner in Iowa wasn't clear?

[TCJ70]

9. He did congratulate her that night...

...it was one of the first things he said in his speech.

[itsrobert]

15. But did not concede

AND DID NOT CONGRATULATE HER AS THE "WINNER. "

[Joe the Revelator]

18. Were you a member of this group in 2000?

[itsrobert]

21. What?

You have to do better than that if you are trying to get a rise out of me.

I won't take it personal.

Nice attempt. NOT!

[Joe the Revelator]

25. Sincere question. If you think a .2% margin of victory requires a concession the very evening of the

caucus, then you must have felt the same way in 2000 when Gore wanted to count the votes.

[LiberalAndProud]

24. You might have a point.

I'm not looking for a candidate who will concede on a thin margin. Those sorts of situations can be Supreme Court sticky, if you get my drift.

Your point might be better taken if we watch Hillary lose by a 2point margin. I'll be watching to see if your point has a point.

[Yurovsky]

23. Because even the Des Moines register knows Iowa was fixed...

Tonight real votes were cast, and then counted, and HRC got her ass handed to her. All those millions of dirty corporate blood money and she got whipped by a guy who REFUSES PAC money, who will NOT be bought by Goldman Sachs, and who hasn't voted for ILLEGAL wars in the Middle East.

The Establishment has been placed on notice. You cannot stomp on the hopes and dreams of the working class and poor forever. We are energized and motivated, and there are more of us than there are of them.

[farleftlib]

11. Yeah how bout that? You don't need a magnifying glass!

NH is feeling the Bern!

[Fantastic Anarchist]

45. Ha! Nice!

[roguevalley]

63. Hillary came out in the middle of someone elses speech in Iowa, yelled a bit

then left without shaking hands and taking pictures like she said she would. Yeah. Gracious.

[workinclasszero]

2. You got that right

Bernie is a sore loser

[Fantastic Anarchist]

48. Tonight is not about Hillary.

Tonight is about feeling the BERN!

[bkkyosemite]

58. He was not a sore loser. His numbers gathered from those on the ground

did not jive with McGuire's numbers.

[m-lekktor]

4. umm, NH wasn't a virtual tie like Iowa. you kinda left out that part of it. nt

[itsrobert]

10. There is no such thing a virtual tie in politics

You win or you lose.

[Warren DeMontague]

16. Yeah, we learned that in 2000, didnt we.

Sometimes it also doesn't even matter who ACTUALLY won the damn thing.

[arcane1]

5. A difference of 0.2% versus 18%. Yep, those are the exact same things.

Man, this "everything but the kitchen sink" strategy is really something!

[TCJ70]

14. 18%

It's 22% according to this.

[arcane1]

37. Thanks! The OP makes less sense by the minute!

[Warren DeMontague]

17. Berniebroooooooooos!

Just, uh, wanted to get that in there.

[Dawson Leery]

7. Certainly.

By the way, Jim Clyburn may endorse Hillary and put the power of the CBC behind her for SC.

Trump and Sanders are trash.

[Yurovsky]

27. Trash? Trump is, Bernie is the working man's friend...

HRC is a wholly owned subsidiary of Goldman Sachs.

[JRLeft]

33. Clyburn pretty much ends South Carolina.

[frylock]

57. All those New Hampshire endorsements sure paid off.

Stay classy.

[bowens43]

12. Iowa was a tie.

[riversedge]

19. Here, let me illustrate the difference between a tie and a win, okay?

Laurel Davila, CPA ?@laureldavilacpa 16h16 hours ago

Here, let me illustrate the difference between a tie and a win, okay? #ImWithHer #IAcaucus

[dflprincess]

32. If that margin had occured in a primary instead of a caucus

it would have been narrow enough to trigger an automatic recount in some states.

Not a win. A tie.

[mpcamb]

54. 30 point slip in 4 months.... Hmmmm....

[Roy Ellefson]

13. odd

odd I heard Bernie call for party unity in his speech...none of that from HRC

[DefenseLawyer]

20. You do know she lost by 20, right?

Just checking.

[itsrobert]

22. Yes, she conceded

Did you not hear her congratulate the WINNER?

[m-lekktor]

30. I bet she wouldn't have conceded if it were the same margin as in Iowa and it was her who was

behind.

[itsrobert]

38. So you justified Bernie's action becuse you think Hillary would have done the same?

I see.

[Armstead]

53. You apparently missed the point at the beginning of his speech..

Where he congratulated Clinton for a vigorous campaign.....And his later call for party unity

[slipslidingaway]

26. So Iowa looked at 14 out of 1600 precincts and the difference was 0.25% ...

and somehow you equate the two?

Sanders said it was a virtual tie, what is a virtual tie to you?

[jillan]

28. They tied in Iowa. They both got 20 delegates each, a little difference from this landslide tonite

21% so far.

[itsrobert]

31. Wrong, Hillary got 23, Sanders 21

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/IA-D

[azmom]

29. Lame

[NoJacketRequired]

34. That's the difference between the two camps

Bernie bros and his other supporters are using the same damn tactics the rabid right wingers have been using against Clinton since the late 90's.

Conspiracy after Conspiracy

[Fantastic Anarchist]

55. Like saying millennials just wasn't free stuff?

Um, yeah, whatever.

[frylock]

59. Pure projection.

[Motown_Johnny]

35. She lost by ~20% not ~0.2% There is a difference. n/t

[Capt. Obvious]

36. Even worse

Some Bernie supporter didn't shovel his driveway.

[Karma13612]

39. My understanding is that IA is still not finished

with the caucus process.

There are more 'processes' to go thru before the final results are solidified.

It isn't because of the close results, but the normal process.

I agree it was very close.

But, Bernie did not concede because it is not over yet.

[DesMoinesDem]

40. This post is just like Hillary... embarrassing.

[Warren Stupidity]

41. Wow way to fish that stinker right out of the bowl.

Here's a clue: 0.2 vs 21.

[itsrobert]

44. Still a win

It's the bigger person that can congratulate the victor when it's real close. It says a lot about a person.

[MrMickeysMom]

42. Boy, you hear and see what you want to, don't cha?

He sure did that. He was also very polite during the debates...

Maybe you should use Q tips?

[Go Vols]

43. Hillary Gracious in Defeat,

supporters not so much.

[itsrobert]

46. Like Bernie supporter shouting FIXED and Stolen

like in Iowa?

Very gracious. NOT.

[Bonobo]

47. You literally made me laugh out loud.

Look at the margin in Iowa vs. NH.

This is a pretty dumb OP.

[itsrobert]

52. So you can't be gracious when you lose by a small margin

I see now. Thanks for that.

[Bonobo]

62. LOL. Wow!

Two laughs!

It's not about graciousness. It is about conceding quickly.

Iowa is a very reasonable reason for not conceding because the margin is tiny and there were open questions.

NH = not so much.

[PennsylvaniaMatt]

49. Iowa compared to New Hampshire

There is no comparing a margin of victory of 21% tonight to 0.25% last week.

I support Bernie Sanders, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for Secretary Clinton and her supporters, but to compare how each side views the results is a stretch

[retrowire]

50. Bernie's supporters aren't the only ones who called shenanigans on Iowa.

But, by all means, try harder. XD

[NowSam]

51. and when they win

I think Bernie has been very gracious in both states and there is no question in NH what the will of the voters is. In Iowa it was so very close and there are lots of questions regarding the actual vote numbers. I think, personally, it could be put to rest if Hillary's pal, Andy Mcguire would allow the audit. That is just my opinion.

[CanonRay]

56. Big contrast between the vote counts as well.

[Squinch]

60. Good point, Robert. And it's nice to see you! Haven't seen your name in a while.

[2pooped2pop]

61. Lol very big contrast in how much they lost by

Gracious is not a word I would ever connect to Hillary