When does Biden enter the race?

[ghostsinthemachine]

it's gonna happen. When do you think? I bet next week we see a draft Joe "I just couldn't sit idly by" movement and his announcement.....

[merrily]

1. Bloomberg

[ghostsinthemachine]

2. nah, he may run but it won't be as a Democrat.

He will go third party if he does it at all.

[MADem]

6. Bloomberg was a Democrat most of his life, switched to GOP to avoid a contentious

mayoral primary in NYC, and before he left office, he declared himself an independent.

If he runs, it will be as an indy.

[merrily]

11. Well see by March, supposedly.

[Separation]

9. I've heard

That if it looks like a Trump/Sanders ticket come November he will jump in as an independent. My question is, whose votes will he take away from?

[merrily]

19. The other NYC billionaire, Trump. Bring it, Mikey!

[Separation]

21. If that is the case

I say, bring it on!!!

[enigmatic]

17. yep

Bloomberg will run as a 3rd party candidate now that Hillary's campaign is collapsing, IMO.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. How about never? n/t

[daleanime]

28. That works for me....

[MADem]

4. Too late. Unless he leaves the party and runs as an independent.

If it looks like it will be Sanders and Trump or Cruz, Bloomberg said he might jump in.

[kenfrequed]

8. So... if it is Bernie..?

He would be running against two Billionaires?

[MADem]

13. Depends on whether or not Trump goes the distance or people tire of him.

He could be running against Bloomberg and Cruz.

[kenfrequed]

22. Hmm...

The only way I would be concerned is if it were Kasich. Otherwise I think Bernie would do well.

[MADem]

25. If Kasich runs, Bloomberg does not.

I think Bloomberg is only in if it's Sanders v. Trump or Cruz.

At least that is the impression the NYT left me with--their reporting might not be accurate.

[neverforget]

14. Irony right?

The Democratic Socialist vs 2 billionaires.......

[iAZZZo]

5. contemporaneously with bloomberg

[itsrobert]

7. Biden jumping in now would not go over too well

Bloomberg has an excellent path for a third party run.

[Schema Thing]

10. Never.

I wish people would stop masturbating to some story about Democratic conventions from 50 years ago.

[mythology]

12. You have absolutely no reason to think it will happen

This is just silly.

[whatthehey]

15. He doesn't. Guaranteed. Bookmark this.

[anotherproletariat]

16. It's so hard to know what to think...

...it feels that no matter what media outlet one listens to, it's always bias.

[jillan]

18. I'm pretty sure he is supporting Bernie

The reports were when his son was on his deathbed he wanted Joe to run to keep the Clintons from getting back in the White House.

[one_voice]

20. I don't see him doing that...

1) it wouldn't make any difference at this stage & 2) He's not going to risk end game: The White House.

[Fearless]

23. Lol and split the Hillary vote? Good one!

[rbrnmw]

24. never

[NowSam]

26. Too late

He player it safe and missed the boat.

[Dems2002]

27. He can't get on most ballots

Here's the thing. The timeline to get onto the ballots is passing or has passed in many states. The math doesn't add up for anyone to enter the actual primary.

Someone is likely going to run as an independent ala Bloomberg, but I don't think this is an election that he'll stand a chance. Who does he hurt? If the nominee is Bernie, the current polling suggests he hurts Bernie and throws the election to Trump.

[HooptieWagon]

34. I have seen those poll numbers, but they don't make sense.

If we assume a Sanders-Trump-Bloomberg race, the establishment of both Democrats and Republicans likely go to Bloomberg. Very few independents, as they are mostly on the edges, not the middle. Minorities probably go to Sanders. That's it, that's his total support. Probably not enough to win, and the party establishments backing a third party candidate together only solidifies Sanders and Trump's arguments about a broken political system and probably means the end of both parties.
Trumps support - it's the same bunch of crazies he has, minus the GOP establishment. Not enough to win.
Sanders - still has the Progressive/Liberal Democratic votes. Picks up some libertarian votes. Large and enthusiastic youth vote. Probably gets strong minority votes...I know they hate Trump, and probably not be too thrilled with Bloomberg.

So, I'm thinking that poll is making erroneous assumptions. First, in assuming numbers of Minorities will support the Democratic establishment in supporting Bloomberg as a third party candidate...I suspect that won't happen. Second, in underestimating the size and commitment of the youth vote for Sanders. I think Sanders wins by a head.

[Dems2002]

38. Don't disagree

I don't disagree with your assumptions. Right now, I am curious about how talk radio and fox news are dealing with Bernie. I'd like to see what their attacks would do to his strong supoort amongst Independent voters. It is really impressive and is really the repudiation of the one group of voters Hillary won...those who make over 200k.

[PFunk1]

29. I think it's too late for Biden.

I think he's either gonna stay neutral or support Bernie.

However it's now time to start expecting Bloomberg to jump in sometime in March. Not to win, but IMO hopefully to take enough votes away from the democratic primary winner to allow a establishment repug to win.

[TransitJohn]

30. They'll bring in Crist or Specter

Seriously, the Third Way/DLC Party apparatchiks have gotta be freaking the fuck out, and wondering which stodgy old safe person we want. They just don't get it.

[DJ13]

32. At first I thought you were claiming the party was bringing in

Christ.

But then I realized it wouldnt matter since he would be a Dem the Evangelicals still wouldnt vote for Him.

[Samantha]

35. You are hysterical

I needed that laugh.

Sam

[HooptieWagon]

36. Crist is running for House Seat in my Congressional District.

He lost his previous two races for US Senate and Governor. He's in no position to run for national office or even make the short list for a Cabinet position.

[MADem]

37. Do you have a shovel?

In order to "bring in Specter" they would have to dig him up.
He's been dead for several years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/us/politics/arlen-specter-senator-dies-at-82.html

[TransitJohn]

39. The sentiment still stands!

It was for illustrative purposes.

[Roy Ellefson]

33. huh

why and what difference would it make? to replace Hillary because he wouldn't cut into Bernie's support.