NH SHATTERS Bernie Minority Myth! Exit polls show Non-White voters SPLIT 52-48!

[ram2008]

No wonder the Clinton campaign is in a panic. Minorities are feeling the bern!

52% for Clinton, 48% for Sanders.

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http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/nh/Dem

[TwilightGardener]

1. Whoops!

[thereismore]

2. That is yooge. Yoooge. nt

[Donkees]

37. YOOJ !

[Jefferson23]

128. I love when he says that, remimds me of my father. YOOJ I tell ya. lol

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Thanks,

[morningfog]

4. There goes the last great firewall! I'll wait for Hill's folks to tell me why NH PoC

don't count.

[Ferd Berfel]

26. YEp - SOmetime tonight we will start hearing from them

and how NH doesn't REALLY matter. It's some other stat that REALLY matters

[madokie]

35. the goalpost

is doing wheelies tonight

[SammyWinstonJack]

84. LMAO!

[jwirr]

82. All states matter.

[pangaia]

58. Because 'they are mostly 'Asians."

You know, those folks who used to be called Orientals.

Like my ex-wife who is from Qingdao. Asian, dontcha know...

[peacebird]

5. This is great!

[DaGimpster]

6. I just went through all of the exit polls, and Sanders is cracking this nut on...

... so many different levels.

[californiabernin]

7. Wait, that does not match the meme. Does not compute! Help!

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[libdem4life]

100. That is awesome...his ad people are tremendous. n/t

[Dem2]

8. NH is 93% white, 2% black

Not that this is a bad thing, but this may not be the state to look at for typical non-white voting patterns.

Edit: to put this in perspective, there are 10,000 voting age blacks in NH.

[cherokeeprogressive]

9. Yeah that's what I'd say too.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

61. Are New Hampshire Blacks not as black as other Blacks?

[LiberalElite]

66. ^^^^THIS^^^^

[cherokeeprogressive]

81. They're like... three/fifths or something.

[PatrickforO]

126. Well...there it is! It has to be that.

Not the same...yes, that's it.

[TCJ70]

14. There are posters on this site who say minority polling matters to them...

...and that they wouldn't even look at Sanders until he starts polling better with those communities. This very much matters.

[kath]

18. Spin spin spin spin spin spin spin

[Dem2]

21. Was it?

Can you please explain?

[Arazi]

19. Hispanic 2.8 %, Asian 2% so yup, very small demographic

but interesting that was the split anyway.

Good info

[morningfog]

22. HIlly peeps where propping up the Iowa AA voters, who make up single digits as well.

All voters matter, everywhere.

[Dem2]

30. Of course they do, nobody ever said they didn't

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[Bonobo]

67. Excellent point. +1 nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

85. Ugh.

[Dem2]

86. Why the ugh?

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[Uncle Joe]

10. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, ram.

[earthside]

11. Clinton contested this election fully.

The Hillary campaign used all resources available to them.

And they still lost and it appears they lost broadly.

[morningfog]

24. All the endorsements, all the money spent, Bill playing attack dog in flannel.

Equals BIG LOSS.

[mike dub]

56. Bill Clinton in red flannel ??

Damn. Even in seeing that the other day I Still forgot to put Brawny paper towels on the grocery list!!
No matter: Feel The Bern!!!!!!

[SoapBox]

94. Wasn't that just AWFUL?!

One would have thought that some one from Camp Weathervane could have said...Don't wear that.

Go Bernie!

[Major Hogwash]

118. That's true, I saw it "Bill the Brawny Man" came out and blasted away at Bernie and his supporters.

Like we were all pot-smoking Communists or sumpting.

[ViseGrip]

130. It's backfired, Brawney man and all...Chelsea, Albright, Steinem,the rest

[Avalux]

12. I knew it this was about to happen. Damn.

The more people get a chance to hear Bernie's message, the more they like him. No matter their skin color.

Hillary's last firewall.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

42. The very same message that Bernie's been saying for 50 + years.

[Avalux]

45. Yes. Most often the only with the guts to say it. n/t

[pa28]

13. He asked for a second look from minority voters and he's getting it! Great news.

[beam me up scottie]

15. Well how do you like them apples?

[babylonsister]

31. Delicious!

[Jarqui]

16. According to Rachel and Andrea at MSNBC

the Clinton campaign delivered a 3 page memo on how they can still win the primary before the 8pm call.

Rachel said what was notable is that the Clinton campaign are no longer touting firewalls Nevada and South Carolina. They discussed that the unions are going for Sanders in Nevada and that when they debated in South Carolina, Clyburn's son remarked what a good organization Sanders had down there.

If that's true, we have a revolution. That doesn't mean we've won the war. But it does mean, the fight will continue for a while yet.

[840high]

23. Yes it will.

[dorkzilla]

36. Wait what? A 3 page memo on how they can win NH?

Delivered to whom? That I'd like to see!

[hedda_foil]

41. To the newsdesks. They are in all out panic mode.

[dorkzilla]

46. That I'd love to see

A peek inside the mind of the campaign...would be interesting!

Thanks!

[senz]

134. I kind of shudder at the thought

sort of like looking into the eye of Sauron.

[winter is coming]

69. My guess is that the campaign's already in the red and they're afraid

the funding will dry up.

[hedda_foil]

97. I think you're right. There have been signals of it the past couple of weeks.

[neverforget]

71. It wasn't NH but the states following.

It was sent out as a concession that Bernie won NH easily.

[Jarqui]

96. Nate Silver said this tonight

"The next two states to vote in the Democratic primary are Nevada and South Carolina. (Nevada votes before South Carolina for Democrats; the reverse is true for Republicans.) In both cases, there’s been a conspicuous absence of polling: Nevada hasn’t been polled since December, and South Carolina was polled a few times in January but hasn’t been surveyed since Iowa."

I've felt for sometime that the Clinton campaign has had their finger on the polling scale. PPP was hired by Correct the Record to do the debate poll. Poll after poll after poll had demographics that favored Clinton. I don't remember a poll where the demographics favored Bernie. I'll probably never know the answer but I'm suspicious. I wonder if the polls have been held back ...

If I could bet, I'd bet heavy that when Nevada comes out, Bernie's closed the gap some - including with Latinos. When SC poll comes out, Bernie will have closed the gap some with Blacks.

With that Clinton campaign memo tonight downplaying the firewall of Nevada and South Carolina, that suggests to me Bernie's making some headway there.

[artislife]

111. What is the name of that H supporter who posted a poll at least once a day?

Goth...something..We should ask him about the polls. He seemed to always find them.

[LondonReign2]

121. There was a whole cadre of Clinton supporters who did nothing BUT post polls

showing that Hillary's lead was insurmountable. They are mighty quiet these days.

[senz]

136. Isn't that lovely?

A fringe benefit of last night's win.

[Arazi]

77. Heres the memo and its a doozy

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2708219-Clinton-Memo-March-strategy.html#document/p1

[dorkzilla]

92. They're delusional

The reputation she's built up being champion to the AA and Hispanic people, incarcerating them and their kids.

Seriously,give it up. You'll never be President, no matter how bad you want to. I want to be 3 inches taller-that ain't happening either.

[bettyellen]

90. Not about Nh, LOL. About how they can win the nomination. Standard hopeful BS they always

put out.

[DemocraticSocialist8]

40. I've been telling people that Clinton doesn't have a lock on the POC vote

In the last PPP national poll 50% of Black voters are still undecided and the lead she DOES have with those who have decided is not rock solid if she losses.

[RiverLover]

75. I heard Killer Mike say that tonight on NPR as well. He thinks the media's got it all wrong.

He was so pumped up, it was great to hear him talk about Bernie. Really loves him.

[noiretextatique]

113. Seems like concerted effort

one that is not working anymore.

[Chathamization]

88. Yep; it will continue well past this election cycle. When people see that they have the ability to

take back their country, they're going to do so. The illusion that we're powerless, that we need to rely on an establishment to shepherd us, that we have no say in who the Democratic candidates are, etc., is cracking. If it breaks, and people start actively taking back the party, there's going to be a sea change.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

95. Combine that with media types nudging each other how Bernie won Iowa...

Then add the fact that nobody has lost both Iowa and New Hampshire and then gone on to win the White House and their panic is at "run screaming into the night" level ten.

[Ferd Berfel]

20. Bill won NH And HIllary won NH in 2008

Guess it's not Clinton's world after all

[Capt. Obvious]

89. Bill lost NH

Big margin too iirc

[StevieM]

25. You can't compare New Hampshire to a state like South Carolina.

NH is a great state for Bernie...and well-earned on his part.

Whether he turns it around in SC remains to be seen, but if the SC primary were held today he would lose the AA vote there decisively.

The assertions that Sanders won't do well among minority voters is based strictly on the polling data--nothing else. There is no malicious intent to defame SBS.

[ram2008]

27. Now we having voting data though

From a state that was bombarded with both messages. It means Bernie's message does resonate in minority communities given enough time.

[StevieM]

38. Bernie did very well with all groups in NH, better than he would have done with the same groups

in a different state. He was polling better with white NH voters than he was with white voters in SC or Iowa.

And I just don't think that minority voters in NH can project what will happen in the SC black community.

I understand that Bernie has a lot going for him, and is about to get a huge boost. But that doesn't mean that any previously identified advantages have been contradicted.

The predictions about SC black voters are based on overwhelming polling numbers, just like Bernie's NH victory was predicted on that basis. I don't see how it makes sense to look at tonight's results and conclude that there must be a problem with the SC polling, let alone a problem as wide as the one that is being suggested.

[NorthCarolina]

55. Bernie also did better with Women, NOT just young Women either but

ALL Women.

That's Yooj.

[StevieM]

63. That's my point. NH was a great state for him across the board.

He did better with women in NH then he did or is expected to do in other states. Just like he did better with men then he is expected to in other states. He did better with white voters than in other states.

That doesn't mean that he will do as well with all these groups in later states to the extent that he did in New Hampshire.

[pnwmom]

62. Not really. It's about the votes of a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of the electorate. n/t

[noiretextatique]

114. What you think polls are? eom

[pnwmom]

116. Reliable polls are carefully designed to include a random selection of voters.

Just taking the results of a couple small counties that happen to report first doesn't provide a random sample.

[cui bono]

43. And if Iowa were held 4 months ago Hillary would have had a decisive win.

Today doesn't matter in SC, primary day does.

Harry Belafonte is stepping in for Bernie now too and he's known and extremely respected for his long time activism.

And yes, there has been tons of malicious intent to defame Bernie on this site on the issue of race.

.

[AlbertCat]

60. You can't compare New Hampshire to a state like South Carolina.

Uh.... isn't that what you are doing?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

73. Things are moving in SC

and they are going to move more now

[StevieM]

74. So far the polling data doesn't support that. It could always change due to a bounce out of NH.

But that hasn't happened yet.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

76. the results of NH have just rolled in

[frylock]

79. What, like in the last hour?

[DirkGently]

28. Very interesting. n/t

[restorefreedom]

29. time for mellencamp...again

https://m.

[jalan48]

32. Bernie was an unknown to many in the US, including minorities.

Once people get a chance to hear him, and hear how much sense he makes, he gets votes regardless of race and gender.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

53. One minority is the youth vote.

Are they hearing or even listening to him?

More importantly, are they voting?

[jalan48]

70. Where I live, yes. They are Bernie supporters.

The ones I talk to see Hillary as a career politician and the Republicans as crazy.

[jeff47]

107. They voted for Sanders 85% to 14% in NH.

They were a larger percentage of voters than 65 and older.

[elmac]

33. Also shattered the unelectability myth NT

[dsc]

39. The sample size is under 150 (7% of 2078)

which, while viable statistically has a very high MOE. I am frankly surprised they used that sample.

[thereismore]

44. It looks like most of the sampled POC are Asians. nt

[Bonobo]

47. Education is a larger factor than race IMO. nt

[Cryptoad]

48. there are non whites in NH?

[ram2008]

50. 7% of the electorate according to exit polls nt

[frylock]

51. Shocking development!

[pangaia]

52. Oh that is really sweet.

Hope you are proud of yourself..

If I type any more I will get alerted on. You ain't worth the trouble.

[Dem2]

59. 2010 census

White 93.9%
Asian 2.2%
Two or more races 1.6%
Black 1.1%
Other race 0.9%
Native 0.2%

[Inkfreak]

80. Yes, all of our states are integrated these days.

You should travel more.

[bettyellen]

91. I wouldn't call 1-2% anything diverse or integrated.

[Inkfreak]

119. Well, it's not like they're segregated in NH. Percentages, aside.

Feel free to round up minorities and ask them to move to NH if that'll help.

[bettyellen]

125. "Feel free to round up minorities " <---VERY SICK THING TO SAY

I don't even want to hear your rationalization for posting such a racist idea.
Pawning it off as someone else's idea is complete bullshit. Disgusting and shameful.

[Inkfreak]

127. Oh, puh-leeeeze. Save the drama.

You're the one that seemingly has a problem with the minority percentages in NH.

Christ, "disgusting & shameful". What hyperbole. Let's look back at what I responded to. A poster says a smart ass comment about no minorities in NH. I make a remark and you feel the need to say there's no diversity or integration there. As if that's purposefully set up that way.

"Racist" What complete horseshit. There's not one thing racist about what I said. I'm not buying what you're selling. Nor will I be shamed by the likes of you.

[bettyellen]

129. 1 1/2% is TINY for fucks sake.That is not diverse, and there is nothing wrong with pointing that out

If your mind is going sick places like bussing minorities places - please keep credit for the nutty idea to yourself. Or share it with Trump. It does not belong here.

[Inkfreak]

131. It is a tiny percentage.

I guess I'm taking umbrage with the idea that those that voted for Bernie don't matter because of that. I'm getting that impression from posters in this thread.

My remark was snarky, yes. But I'm not advocating bussing anyone. I'm the one who has no objection to the percentages. People choose to live where they wanna.

And spare me the insulation I'm a Trump supporter & by proxy, a RW'er. He's a jackass and I'm no republican.

[bettyellen]

132. It was disgusting to suggest anyone wants to bus in minorities- and you thought of it.

Your idea. Not any Clinton supporter. So, keep that bullshit to yourself.


People discuss demographics all the damned time- and SC is the opposite of NH, it is what it is. No one is asking you to love it, but they do not deserve to be painted as racists for merely discussing it.

If being a majority white it makes you feel marginalized that other groups are being discussed- you have some soul searching to do. You have no good reason to resent it.

[rbrnmw]

49. Congrats to Senator Bernie Sanders

It was a hard won fight

[pangaia]

54. it was a piece of cake.

[femmedem]

109. thank you for the gracious congratulations!

It's nice to see from a Clinton supporter.

And seeing your avatar, I want to congratulate the BLM activists for being brave, bold and well-organized enough to break through, be heard, and be taken seriously. They've been incredibly effective.

[rbrnmw]

110. Aww Thank You they are very effective

Look for some of them to become leaders in this Country.

[femmedem]

112. That would be amazing. We need that. n/t

[litlbilly]

57. also, Bernie is winning with women across all demo's. thats amazing too 58% last i heard

[Cheese Sandwich]

78. Amazing.

[QC]

99. Yes, but all those women are going to suffer eternal torment

at the hands of the Dark Lord, so they don't count.

[litlbilly]

101. alot of good company in hell then, ill join them:)

[QC]

105. As Mark Twain said, "Heaven for the climate,

Hell for the company."

[ChiciB1]

64. Yes, NH Is A Small Northeast State, BUT Regardless I Just Want

to say this! Hey you Democratic Congress Critters... Are you beginning to FEEL THE BERN?????

Day by day, step by step WE ARE sending you a message! You've failed us for too long and so the worm is turning!

I'm beginning to see some real momentum building IN SPITE of what MSM Barkers keep telling us. He seems to be gathering more and more endorsements of quality as time goes on. If the Harry Belafonte endorsement is true... WELL, I think this will send an enormous message to many other black leaders who know him and respect him enormously. I still haven't gotten over the John Lewis endorsement of Hillary. That one really hurt!

[senz]

135. Total agreement, ChiciB1. Well said.

[ChiciB1]

138. Thanks A Lot... Our Passion Means So Much For Bernie... n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

65. Interesting!

[zentrum]

68. Fantastic and Important.

[Volaris]

72. The knives that get unleashed in SC are going to be horridly sharp as all get this year

And not just for us.
Cruz, bush, Rubio and now Kasich are gonna Ceaser the fuck out of trump...I don't expect his campaign will make it out of the state alive.

Get ready, folks, the next month is going to be history-book levels of Dirty.

[bvf]

83. If it wasn't evident before, I guess we can

finally put that one to bed.

"Yeop," as someone said, hilariously.

[LS_Editor]

87. Americans Disturbed By Bernie Sanders' Consistent Record, Honesty

Satire alert. This website is definitely Feeling the Bern.


Americans Disturbed By Bernie Sanders' Consistent Record, Honesty

WASHINGTON (The Nil Admirari) - Today, the results of a TNA study showed a sizable minority of American voters were disturbed by the honesty and consistent record of Democratic presidential candidate U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. These Americans found it difficult to accept there was a politician who dared to tell hard truths rather than politically beneficial lies, and explicitly refused to use the divide and conquer strategy utilized by other politicians to trick the vast majority of Americans into fighting each other over economic scraps.

+

"Many of these Americans really want to support Senator Sanders, but are unsure of what to do after being lied to for so long," stated Schneider.

More at link...

[DCBob]

93. What about African Americans separately?

Is it split out that way?

[uponit7771]

98. It rarely has been split... Sanders lost PoC b 25% in IA... I don't see him making that up in SC

...

[ram2008]

104. Doesn't need to win them all since he is winning the white vote significantly

Just bring it down to about a 15% gap.

[warrprayer]

102. Thanks to All

[99Forever]

103. But "THE Voice of The Black Vote" told me just yesterday...

... right here on this very board, that Senator Sander could NOT connect with the poc in NH.

I'm stunned. STUNNED, I SAY!

[noiretextatique]

115. Lol...that voice has been saying that for months

Maybe it is his/her job...

[kath]

124. For months, except when on one of her many vacations..

[NoJacketRequired]

106. This reminds me...

Of those World Net Daily polls that said Trump had a commanding lead amongst minorities

And when you looked at the polling sample they polled an astonishing 5 African Americans 😂

[avaistheone1]

108. Yes! Yes! Yes!

[LondonReign2]

120. As we learned in Iowa, Hillary supporters will claim

that as a massive victory.

[disillusioned73]

122. Well..

This minority in PA has been feeling it for some time.. the media is wrong..

[Betty Karlson]

123. 48 % is yet to be won. The work starts now.

I really hope Sanders will get the chance to effect his police reforms and unmake the prison industry.

[senz]

133. I KNEW that once PoC saw WHO ACTUALLY CARES, they would go with him.

I am so glad to see this. PoC deserve a good president like Bernie Sanders. We all do.

This is getting me teary-eyed.

[AtomicKitten]

137. k/r this is yuuuuge