2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI am disturbed and saddened by the rancor
I love Hillary Clinton and I love Bernie Sanders. I think either of them would be INFINITELY better than any Republican candidate. Even when I choose one over the other, that choice does not make me believe that the other candidate is acting in bad faith, or is evil, or is vindictive or incompetent.
I thought it was liberals/progressives who have the ability to see complexity rather than simply black and white, right and wrong. Clinton has great strengths and Sanders has great strengths; each has weaknesses, including the limitations of their own experiences and personality traits.
I am a jaded, cynical, pessimistic person with a strong background in science and law - and I know that it's really, really difficult, if not impossible, to avoid confirmation bias and all the unconscious and cognitive machinery that goes into it.
I really wish all of you who are posting increasingly vitriolic, accusatory and downright nasty things about Hillary and/or Bernie would stop and think for a moment - do you really believe either of these people is acting in bad faith, with malice, intentionally and knowingly misrepresenting stuff? Do you really believe your candidate is the only person on the planet who has NOT done something they later regretted because of peer pressure, inadequate information, or expedience?
Neither of these two is a perfect human being; yet in their shoes, I doubt I could have done as well.
Please quit the hating. The Republicans do enough of that for the whole country and more.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)lmarcotty
(48 posts)I'm honored!
longship
(40,416 posts)Have a Valentine heart. You've earned it.
And welcome to DU!
lmarcotty
(48 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)Big Money vs. Everyone Else
I know which side I'm on.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)one particularly prolific Clinton supporter openly admits to trolling
ccinamon
(1,696 posts)In fact, Hillary's planned "outrage" last Wednesday during the Town Hall confirmed it for me...she was just WAITING for the "right opportunity" to unload her planned outrage...
I remember my 4yr old son waiting until we had company to do a hissy fit......hoping for a better outcome....Hillary's "pout rage" struck the same chord in me.
kath
(10,565 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)regards war as a laughing matter, finds ways to compromise core Democratic values even BEFORE negotiations start.
That's not hate, and you may still not like it, but the Clintons have certainly done their share of helping to spread Bernie-hate (and before that, Obama-hate).
lmarcotty
(48 posts)That's a reasonable response. You identify specific reasons for your preference, and you are civil about expressing them - you're not engaging in name-calling and sliding into the GOOD/EVIL dichotomy. That's not the kind of unthinking hatred that worries me.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Although the posts have gotten a bit more vicious with the lack of moderation. It will pass.
lmarcotty
(48 posts)Thanks - I tend to lose temporal perspective! I forget it's happened before and will happen again. So far, we've survived...
Dem2
(8,168 posts)I love Hillary Clinton and I love Bernie Sanders. I think either of them would be INFINITELY better than any Republican candidate. Even when I choose one over the other, that choice does not make me believe that the other candidate is acting in bad faith, or is evil, or is vindictive or incompetent.
We are very similar in how we approach politics and so I couldn't agree with your more. Please continue to post your thoughts here
tblue37
(65,483 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,400 posts)good and evil, soul or no soul, love or no love.
It's distilled down to the purity side. Which is what makes it so comical to watch as we get the various purges that go on here.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)It's simply liberal vs. conservative.
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)I have my preference and as a lifelong supporter of quixotic left wing populists it's Sanders but I see no reason to hate on someone I may end up having to vote for. Much of the stuff that goes on is just over the top.