What is Clinton hiding?

[Red Oak]

"One thing that is clear is that Clinton could release the Goldman transcripts unilaterally if she chose to do so."


What Clinton said in her paid speeches, by Ben White

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/clinton-speeches-218969

[Thinkingabout]

1. What makes you think there are transcripts?

[PatrickforO]

2. If you're getting a quarter million dollars from a speaking engagement, then there will at least be

notes, and the organization itself might even want to videotape your speech.

[Thinkingabout]

13. I doubt these are the rules, as I doubt there are videos of the fund raiser and lobbyists meetings

Sanders has attended.

[2pooped2pop]

4. Its in her standard contract

Doesn't necessarily mean they were made for THOSE speeches but in her standard contract there was a stenographer and Clinton had all rights.

[Thinkingabout]

14. Are you positive she brought her own stenographer?

[2pooped2pop]

20. I don't know that it washer own, just that one would be paid for by the payee

[arcane1]

51. The contract I saw said the group paying for the speech also have to pay for the stenographer.

And that Clinton retains all copies of the text.

[pangaia]

56. There is a stenographer

and ONLY Hillary can have the transcript.. no video, no audio, nothin.'

She's got transcripts, you better believe it.

[Red Oak]

6. Her standard speaking contract does

It is widely reported that Hillary's speaking contract includes the required provision of a stenographer and also stipulates that only she gets a copy and that all materials belong to her.

Here is an example of what is being reported:

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/05/heres-what-clintons-paid-speaking-contract-looks-like/

[Thinkingabout]

38. Like copy rights to her speech, got it, exactly what a lawyer would do, in other prevents some one

else from profitting from her speech.

[Red Oak]

43. Exactly

So she has the rights, she has the transcripts.

She could release if it made her case.

It doesn't and she won't.

Typically Clinton.

[Thinkingabout]

45. Did the contract say she had to get transcripts or she had the right to have her speech transcribed.

It is preventing anyone else from being recorded, in other words she complete rights.

[Orsino]

24. Considering the secrecy clouding those engagements...

...Clinton might as well be under NDA.

If her story is going to be that the records have since been destroyed or misplaced, that's not likely to play well.

[H2O Man]

25. The fact that the

Clinton campaign has said that they will not release the transcripts is, quite obviously, proof positive that they exist. If there were no transcripts, the campaign would definitely have said so.

[Thinkingabout]

39. Does the campign have rights to the speeches?

[thereismore]

27. She demanded transcript service and then she took the transcripts. She has them. nt

[Thinkingabout]

40. She proteced her speeches, copy right.

[thereismore]

46. No, you copyright something by putting a (c) on it. nt

[Thinkingabout]

48. Does anyone else hve the right to transcribe her speeches, no, still does not mean she transcribed

the speeches, if someone else had transcribed them it would be illegal.

[thereismore]

55. I saw the agreement re: speeches. I don't have a link, but,

1) she requested that there be a transcriber, no cameras, no audio recording

2) she was to be handed the original of the transcript.

That's all I know.

[morningfog]

37. The contracts contained a clause that Hillary would have them transcribed and

retain the transcripts

[PoliticAverse]

52. Her speaking contract apparently specifies that a transcript be made and given to her.

The cost of the transcription was $1,250.

Recording Clinton’s speech is prohibited, but the sponsor must agree to pay $1,250 to a stenographer, who will transcribe the speech for Clinton’s records.

See: https://theintercept.com/2016/02/05/heres-what-clintons-paid-speaking-contract-looks-like/

[riversedge]

3. Even Sanders is not pushing it. If he did, he would have to release all of his paid speech

transcripts. He is smarter than you are.

[2pooped2pop]

5. The less than 2 grand he got paid went to charity.

I'm pretty comfortable that his speeches would be just fine. He's more likely not pushing it because he knows it would be an altered copy.

[Red Oak]

7. Sanders SHOULD release his transcripts

It would be an excellent comparison for the voters

[NurseJackie]

9. +1

[cali]

11. Lol. Anyone that thinks Bernie has a problem

with that is nuts. As far as I know, and he is my Senator, Bernie has never had a no reporters allowed speech, and he has been saying the same things for over 40 years. He has made very few paid speeches and donated the proceeds to charity.

Trying to conflate Hillary with Bernie on this is in your face bullshit.

[asuhornets]

12. Yes. Bernie is omnipotent. n/t

[cali]

16. At least attempt a cogent response.

[2pooped2pop]

22. No, just honest.

[retrowire]

44. I don't think you know what that word means. lol nt

[Red Oak]

19. +1

[HereSince1628]

8. I don't know, I don't know that her reluctance -must- mean something is being hidden.

In the interest of just throwing out an alternative, that may or may not be any more credible, consider...

HRC is a proud and powerful politician, and she has a personality that integrates those things.

Responding to a challenge from the media -may- seem to her to be a challenge to her power and a cut to her pride.

I don't posit this as truth. I put it forward to show alternatives can be imagined.

[tazkcmo]

15. And if you're right

and you very well could be, it's another sign of a weak leader. A strong leader is confident in their decisions and transparent when defending them in order to maintain their position. A strong leader admits error, sets aside pride and does not fear a challenge to their power as a challenge can represent a weakness in said leader's position and should be addressed.

[snagglepuss]

30. Very interesting remarks about leadership. You're right, hiding what she has said or done is

reveals weakness not strength.

[Red Oak]

17. It could be outsized hubris, but...

Isn't it much more likely that she got $675,000 to say nice things about Goldman Sachs to a Goldman Sachs audience.

She probably did not go in there and tell them to "cut it out".



Isn't this just legalized bribery of the "political class" by billionaires and corporations?

[snagglepuss]

32. People don't get that kind of money to say nice thing things, ex-presidents

do that and they get $40,000 for doing that. The reason this Hillary got this amount lavished on her is that GoldmanSachs knew as everyone else has always know that Hillary was going to run for office and that it was hers to win.

This money is nudge nudge wink wink, do't forget GS when your sitting in the the Oval Office Sweetheart.

[HereSince1628]

35. I think GS did these as a promotional sort of thing for it's favorite clients

I'm not sure what was said, but I suspect what was said was said in a way not to alienate potential campaign donors.

[Thinkingabout]

18. Did you know about Sanders meeting with lobbyists and giving speeches for money until recently?

I have never heard him talk about his speeches, he must have something to hide.

[Red Oak]

21. Show me a link or two or three

All I see is a trolling response (and not much thinking about the subject)

[Thinkingabout]

23. I will be glad to provide links:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/

http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2010/02/dem-senators-spent-weekend-with-bank-energy-tobacco-lobbyists-024709


As far as the trolling response, I am not a troller, others may be but name calling is not appreciated.

[Red Oak]

28. So you equate Bernie raising money for the DSCC

To the Super Pacs and speaking fees of Hillary?

Is that your point?

[Thinkingabout]

33. Hillary has never said she doesn't have super PACs has never denied her speeches. I wonder why

Sanders has a lot to say about Hillary's speeches and PACs and not tell about his speeches and the super PACs which benefits him, such as the hedge fun PAC which runs ads against Hillary. We know Sanders attends meetings with lobbyists, we know he has been fund raising with Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street companies. The point is Sanders is trying to say he does not work with corporations and we know he does, why the double standard. Hillary was not an elected official when she gave her speeches, Sanders has been elected and was voting on different issues. Sanders responded to the NRA contribution to defeat his opponent by voting against the Brady Bill five times, not a progressive position.

[Red Oak]

47. "We all know" or just you?

Your attempt at creating a double standard here is laughable.

Please post a response showing Sen Sander's speaking fees, Wall Street contributions, and then compare them to Sec. Clinton's.

Can you get a number for Sen Sanders in total including joint participation in DSCC fundraisers, that is even half of Sec Clinton's personal enrichment from Wall Street speaking fees?

I thought not.

Clinton = bought, paid for, and responds to issues in kind.

Want me to post the Youtube links? Be glad to. It is sickening to watch a politician sell out for money, but I'll be glad to go get the links for you if you don't already have them.

[earthside]

29. Love those links ...

... that show how much Sen. Sanders did/does for the Democratic Party.

[Thinkingabout]

34. The DNC has donated to his campaigns and also had Democrats go and stump for him, it was not a

one way street. As you notice he is on the DNC presidential primary ballot.

[GoneOffShore]

10. Her lack of empathy?

Nah, that's pretty obvious.

She seems to be going down the Mittens path. And as she becomes more desperate, she's going to say something that will blow her candidacy out of the water.

I just wish it would happen soon. Like in the next week.

[SamKnause]

26. Anything and everything she can.

FEEL THE BERN

[hobbit709]

31. damn near everything.

[Punkingal]

36. That's the 675,000 dollar question, isn't it?

[trueblue2007]

41. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING

NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING


NOTHING you silly person.... i fart in your general direction.NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING you silly person.... i fart in your general direction. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING you silly person.... i fart in your general direction.NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING you silly person.... i fart in your general direction. NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGyou silly person.... i fart in your general direction. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING you silly person.... i fart in your general direction.NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHINGNOTHING NOTHING NOTHING

[elias49]

53. Good grief.

You hurt my ears.

[OilemFirchen]

42. Webbed feet?

[Nonhlanhla]

49. Why have Bernie supporters joined the witch hunt?

Why is it that Hillary and Hillary alone is expected, by opponents both left and right, to release every word she has ever uttered?

We all know very well that some people only want those transcripts so that they can pore over it and then twist it into something ugly.

[Red Oak]

50. People want to know why they have been SAVAGED

by Wall Street.

Why their job went to China? Why there is no job growth? Why there is no salary growth? Why no restrictions on unfair competition?

Why, in the face of this, Wall Street made a killing?

Why has Wall Street paid record fines and no one in jail for fraud?

How have Hillary (and Bill) made millions off these same people and corporations?

Why did Bill sign NAFTA and get China into the WTO?

Why did Hillary support the TPP?

Has she been an enabler of the crushing of the middle class?

How much was she paid? Was she bribed?

[Maedhros]

54. I would imagine those speeches contain rhetoric that people like you and I would find useful

in portraying her as overly sympathetic to the Wall Street cause.