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riversedge

(70,282 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 09:40 AM Feb 2016

Deceptive mailers, Wall Street fundraisers, and a SuperPAC. Bernie Sanders is no revolutionary, say

And the vetting has slowly begun!

The Briefing ?@TheBriefing2016 3m3 minutes ago

Deceptive mailers, Wall Street fundraisers, and a SuperPAC.

Bernie Sanders is no revolutionary, says @Milbank.

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Bernie Sanders is no revolutionary


Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. speaks during a campaign stop at the Palace Theatre, Monday, Feb. 8, 2016, in Manchester, N.H. (AP Photo/John Minchillo) (John Minchillo/AP)
By Dana Milbank Opinion writer February 8 at 6:10 PM

For a guy running against the establishment, Bernie Sanders sure seems to crave its approval.

In New Hampshire last week, the Democratic presidential candidate put out an ad touting his endorsements that gave the false impression that two local newspapers — the Nashua Telegraph and the Valley News — had endorsed him. An early version of the ad overtly claimed the papers had endorsed him. They had done no such thing.




Sanders did the same in Iowa, running a nearly identical ad — “He’s been endorsed for real change,” the narrator said — that left the strong and wrong impression the Des Moines Register was among those endorsing him. The paper had endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Also in Iowa, Sanders sent out campaign mailers that included the logos of the League of Conservation Voters and AARP, according to Newsweek, even though AARP does not endorse and the League of Conservation Voters endorsed Clinton.

In Nevada, Sanders campaign staffers allegedly misrepresented themselves as Culinary Union members, wearing union pins, so they could gain access to employee dining rooms on the Las Vegas Strip and campaign for Sanders. After Nevada journalist Jon Ralston reported this, the union, which had made no endorsement, said it was “offended” by the multiple instances of “falsifying.”......................

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Deceptive mailers, Wall Street fundraisers, and a SuperPAC. Bernie Sanders is no revolutionary, say (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2016 OP
This is just laughable. cali Feb 2016 #1
Yet his campaign had to apologize for these wrongdoings. R B Garr Feb 2016 #9
They weren't wrongdoings; they are contrived distortions of the ads fed to media by HRC. kristopher Feb 2016 #13
Using logos without permission is actually more than R B Garr Feb 2016 #34
#1 riversedge Feb 2016 #20
And Clinton has the audacity to accuse Sanders of smear tactics? casperthegm Feb 2016 #2
Sander's Camp didn't label the DMR quote an endorsement. kristopher Feb 2016 #14
Clinton has the same charges against her Perogie Feb 2016 #3
That's all you've got? tecelote Feb 2016 #4
Sad trombone. This falls flat on its face. morningfog Feb 2016 #5
Dana Milbank. ms liberty Feb 2016 #6
lol Dana Milbank was wrong on Obama too. Mr Agenda Milbank: Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #7
Milbank isn't at all unique, in fact he's a typical corporate media success story. kristopher Feb 2016 #12
Yep, well known shill..but any port in a storm to bash Bernie. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #17
Corporate media will probably bring this front and center. Iliyah Feb 2016 #8
"And the vetting has slowly begun!" --- It's about time, too! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #10
riiiiiight Roland99 Feb 2016 #16
Gosh it has been revealed that Bernie has a campaign staff...Oh and he's a SOCIALIST too Armstead Feb 2016 #19
It's been revealed he has a staff that has cheated multiple times and he apparently KittyWampus Feb 2016 #28
I think if Bernie had better oppo research, they could have dug up similar screwups by Clinton Armstead Feb 2016 #30
Actions do speak louder than words. Alfresco Feb 2016 #11
By early March this stuff will catch up to his campaign and oasis Feb 2016 #22
This is pathetically desperate AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #15
It's FACTUAL. Why not reflect on why Sanders' campaign staffers KittyWampus Feb 2016 #27
Its a conspiracy! AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #32
Clinton suppoters helped to launch the meme that Obama is a Muslim from Africa Armstead Feb 2016 #18
Change the subject when you can't refute the truth. Why not ask why Sanders attracts KittyWampus Feb 2016 #24
It's a national political campaign involving many people Armstead Feb 2016 #31
I posted the same list and it got locked. KittyWampus Feb 2016 #21
Post away casperthegm Feb 2016 #23
Post away to get alerted on yet again? LOLZ KittyWampus Feb 2016 #25
Lol. cali Feb 2016 #26
So much for democracy and the 1st Amendment huh Iliyah Feb 2016 #29
1st Amendment?! frylock Feb 2016 #35
k&r DesertRat Feb 2016 #33

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
13. They weren't wrongdoings; they are contrived distortions of the ads fed to media by HRC.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 10:58 AM
Feb 2016

The endorsement ads clearly differentiated between the endorsements as endorsements and the positive quotes from several local outlets that had not endorsed.

R B Garr

(16,973 posts)
34. Using logos without permission is actually more than
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:13 PM
Feb 2016

a wrongdoing. It's stealing intellectual property, which is a crime.. I was being polite saying wrondoing.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
2. And Clinton has the audacity to accuse Sanders of smear tactics?
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 09:45 AM
Feb 2016

This is pretty weak. You're right, the Des Moines Register did not endorse Sanders prior to the caucus. They did, however, call for an investigation afterward, saying "something didn't smell right." How about we stick to the issues, rather than slinging mud?

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
14. Sander's Camp didn't label the DMR quote an endorsement.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:00 AM
Feb 2016

The ad simply quoted the text of their stated opinion. The ones that were endorsements were labeled "Endorsement" in big bold letters.

Perogie

(687 posts)
3. Clinton has the same charges against her
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 09:45 AM
Feb 2016

but tenfold. better find something she's not also guilty of to use against Bernie

ms liberty

(8,592 posts)
6. Dana Milbank.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 09:54 AM
Feb 2016

He lost any and all credibility with the incident in 08; we discussed it at length here at the time.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. lol Dana Milbank was wrong on Obama too. Mr Agenda Milbank:
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 09:55 AM
Feb 2016

Washington Post Fuels Outrage After Misquoting Obama

Washington Post reporters Dana Milbank and Jonathan Weisman gave the McCain campaign a nipple-stiffening moment today after they picked up a statement by Barack Obama, and used it, apparently, entirely out of context, presenting it for the consumption of Post readers in a way that made it look like Obama was being arrogant.

For Milbank's part, it was all because he wanted to wedge the statement into his preferred frame: "Barack Obama has long been his party's presumptive nominee. Now he's becoming its presumptuous nominee." I believe it was Oscar Wilde who cautioned: "Reality is a MADE thing."

And, as it turns out, Milbank's "reality" is something of a deconstruction. Milbank's remake reads:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/30/iwashington-posti-fans-ou_n_115861.html?

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
12. Milbank isn't at all unique, in fact he's a typical corporate media success story.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 10:55 AM
Feb 2016

He is everything that a paid shill must be to collect the check.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. "And the vetting has slowly begun!" --- It's about time, too!
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 10:23 AM
Feb 2016

No more coasting, Bernie! People are beginning to pay attention, and it appears that once they learn more about Bernie, they prefer Hillary!!

We love you, Hillary!

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
28. It's been revealed he has a staff that has cheated multiple times and he apparently
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:17 AM
Feb 2016

can't control them.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
30. I think if Bernie had better oppo research, they could have dug up similar screwups by Clinton
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:23 AM
Feb 2016

Obama is a Muslim born in Africa who wears funny exotic garb.

I don't think she was responsible for doing that, but her campaign gave a big jumpstart to the birthers.

When Sanders campaign stoops to that level, let me know and we can talk about hypocrisy.

oasis

(49,400 posts)
22. By early March this stuff will catch up to his campaign and
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:09 AM
Feb 2016

that's when the wheels start to come off.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
27. It's FACTUAL. Why not reflect on why Sanders' campaign staffers
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:16 AM
Feb 2016

seem to have issues acting ethically?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
18. Clinton suppoters helped to launch the meme that Obama is a Muslim from Africa
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:06 AM
Feb 2016

When the minor league screw-ups by some members of Bernies campaign rises to that level, let me know.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
24. Change the subject when you can't refute the truth. Why not ask why Sanders attracts
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:12 AM
Feb 2016

staffers and supporters like this?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
31. It's a national political campaign involving many people
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:28 AM
Feb 2016

Not all of them have good judgement, some get carried away by enthusiasm and a small percentage are ethically challenged.

Just like any campaign.

This delicacy seems misplaced considering some of the slimeballs that have been associated with Clinton's campaigns. I'll take someone who thinks its okay to use a logo inappropriately (or doesnl;t understant trademark law) , or put on a union button over a Mark Penn or Rahm anyday.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
23. Post away
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:11 AM
Feb 2016

If this is really all you've got, since Clinton clearly loses when we actually debate the issues, then fire away with this weak stuff if it makes you feel better.

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