Jennifer Granholm is disappointed in young women.

[Avalux]

She did her best shill for Hillary just now on CNN, and stated how "disappointed" she is in young women since her generation has worked so hard to give young women the chance to pull the lever for a woman. They've done this for their daughters, and she doesn't understand why they aren't supporting Hillary, who is honest, will work hard and is "the most qualified person EVER" to run for president.

Shaming young women into voting for Hillary will never, ever work. I don't understand why they don't get that. My daughters and I are disgusted by this blatant display of privilege.

[Fawke Em]

1. God, will they just SHUT UP!

I'd love to pull a lever for a woman, but, geez, you have to give me a woman worthy of it!

[Avalux]

13. I don't think they're going to shut up. It's only going to backfire though. n/t

[Fawke Em]

22. Hopefully.

And before anyone alleges I'm sexist for telling Granholm to "shut up," I didn't mean her, specifically, just the old guard establishment.

I am a woman, for Pete's sake.

[dana_b]

71. oh it is

after my daughter heard what Albright and Steinem said, she said "wth?? Do they think we're THAT stupid?!" and just shook her head. She's not the least bit impressed and does not react well to being chastised.

[southerncrone]

72. The millennials do NOT like this type of game-playing. They see right thru it.

And good for them!

[Odin2005]

96. It's already backfiring!

Just look at how popular Feminist-bashing is on sites popular with Millennials like Reddit. Feminism is rapidly becoming associated pro-establishment "empowerment culture", where people only care about establishing themselves in existing oppressive power structures rather than overthrowing those structures, and that is really dangerous.

[Nite Owl]

35. Every time they try this

they make it worse for themselves.

[artislife]

50. We are used to disapointing people.

But as someone wise once said., "What you think of me is your business!"

LOL!

Can't please everyone, I say in a singsong voice.


skipity, skipity la la la!

[retrowire]

65. This was my immediate reaction to this.

Can they please just STOP ALREADY. GAHHH

[hollysmom]

66. this is so stupid, they are actually damaging the woman's movement

in that they show no respect for young women and that gives men permission to treat them as airheads.
If you want people to respect you, you have to show respect toward others instead of being raging assholes.
I am so embarrassed for these women on my age.

[cantbeserious]

2. The Establishment Is Apoplectic About Bernie - No Tactic Is Too Low Or Malicious

eom

[Press Virginia]

3. Young people weren't into her in 2008

little has changed since then.

[ViseGrip]

4. I saw Jennifer last week on a show, shilling. She was terrible. Besides, Jennifer has a couple of

Bernie supporters in her family. Ha ha.

[CorporatistNation]

7. Jenny Has Really Sunk...

Done w/THAT!

[ybbor]

69. It's true, i know a few personally

They have Bernie stickers on their cars, right next to their old Granholm and Obama stickers.

[onecaliberal]

5. This is a very stupid move.

I can guarantee they don't give a rip about what jenny thinks. They don't need some woman telling them how their lives are. They live their struggles every day. They know who will fight for them. It's not Hillary.

[jillan]

6. Hey Jennifer - I am not a young woman, are you disappointed in me too?

[TwilightGardener]

8. Can you imagine any other bloc of voters that could get shamed and scolded like this

repeatedly? Even these supposed feminists treat them like silly airheaded ungrateful (or boy-crazy) children.

[Avalux]

9. It's appalling.

You're absolutely right - they want young women to bow down to them and be obedient, like children.

[snagglepuss]

54. Excellent point. No I can't imagine any other bloc of voters being shamed

shamed and scolded like this...it's almost as if Hillary feels entitled.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

73. They're acting like Republicans.

"See, we've got Sarah Palin, token female, running for Vice-President. Vote for John McCain, even though she's a complete idiot!"

"See, we've got our token Negro on the Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas. See, there are black Republicans!"

"See, we've got our token Hispanic female, Linda Chavez." She's been around a long time and I think she has been a token too.

[Kall]

10. She was terrible on Morning Joe too

Mika was just looking at her like, WTF. Sounds like for the same reason as on CNN.

[Glamrock]

11. I'm wondering

If she'd be nearly as disappointed if they jumped on the Fiorina wagon. I mean, they'd have a chance to pull the lever for a woman that way too. I'm guessing she might be.

[Avalux]

12. True! Very good point. n/t

[Glamrock]

14. Muchos

Grassy ass

[CoffeeCat]

15. 84 percent of young women in Iowa caucused for Bernie

You would think with stats like that--the Hillary campaign would be doing more to win them over. Rather than insult them.

This is getting really tired and old.

This is the third Hillary friend who has insulted young, American women.

All they are doing is further alienating this demographic.

I am old to my kids. These women are older than me! All these women are doing is making themselves look like old fools who don't understand the younger generation. They are literally pushing these younger women into Bernie's camp.

[Avalux]

20. We must be about the same age.

I''ve got three grown daughters and I'm 'old' to them. I'm honestly not sure where I fit in here lol!

[HooptieWagon]

32. +1000

[jberryhill]

16. She fought a long struggle on gender roles...

...before finally deciding on bachelor number two.

[Avalux]

17. What the....is that her? n/t

[jberryhill]

23. Yes. She was a 1978 contestant on The Dating Game

http://www.usatoday.com/media/cinematic/video/1571311/

There's the video of her fighting that hard fight.

[Avalux]

40. How funny! Thanks. n/t

[progressoid]

49. Wow, that was weirdly surreal.

[Fawke Em]

24. Yes, it is.

She's a very attractive woman.

But, I do wonder if 2016 Granholm is "disappointed" in the way 1970s Granholm acted there.

[jberryhill]

27. It was all about empowerment

She was in a position to make her own choice about with which guy she'd go to Acapulco.

[Fawke Em]

28. Ha!

[Avalux]

39. Good one!

[Bonobo]

48. LOL. Acapulco.

I loved that show.

[jberryhill]

91. With a chaperone

I wanted to be a Dating Game chaperone when I grew up.

[Odin2005]

97. OMG, that hair!!!

[islandmkl]

103. she should have gone on "Let's Make a Deal' with Monty Hall and gang....

[earthside]

18. The country has changed.

The feminist battles and women's rights struggles of the 1960s and 1970s are over.

My 21 year old daughter is concerned about the cost of college -- Sanders is talking to her.
My daughter sees her 27 year old brother worried about going to see the doctor because his deductible is so high (we talked about this on Sunday during Super Bowl halftime) -- Sanders is talking to both of them.

Needless to say, both of my children are for Sanders ... Hillary's message is that she doesn't have a message for them at all. Sanders is directly addressing their concerns.

And my daughter would find a lecture by someone like Gov. Granholm to be arrogant and irrelevant (I know because my daughter and I talk politics all the time).

The Clinton campaign is clueless.

[Nay]

92. My son, age 33, and all his friends are voting for Bernie. No one even

is looking at another candidate.

[HooptieWagon]

19. It's an age gap.

Hillary and her older female surrogates are just tone deaf to the issues important to younger women. They harangue them to vote for a women candidate, just because she's a woman. Wtf? Younger women KNOW there will be a woman president in their lifetime, it's not an overriding issue. What is an issue is college debt, jobs, being able to afford a house, climate change, social justice, ending wars....all stuff Bernie is talking about. Hillary has lived a life of extreme privilege...she just has no clue what's important to young women.
And then talking down to the younger women...well, younger women are pretty damn saavy. They know when they're being bullshitted.

[Avalux]

26. They're super smart.

I think Clinton and her peeps don't realize just how smart they are. They can see through the disingenuous 'concern'.

[HooptieWagon]

29. Yep, I know.

I'm 59, but am friends with a handful of millenial women, one of them pretty close. They're very smart...I am amazed...pretty proud of them too.

[artislife]

55. What they don't get is that we have had women in positions of power

And whether they are good or bad depends upon how they act, not their gender. There was a belief that things would change greatly if women were in charge. But that hasn't been 100% true. There are great women, for sure, who have changed things for the better. But they did that because they were fearless and had a moral compass...not a vagina.


Many young women today have no idea that they cannot do something, pursue a career in anything...their obstacles are not rooted in gender in their minds, their obstacles are other things. Financial, personal esteem, opportunity, and other things. I don't think there has been anything that I thought I couldn't do because I was a woman, but there have been plenty of things I thought I couldn't do because I didn't believe I had the right stuff. But that never meant a penis.


And that is the huge difference between the generations.

[kath]

94. "depends upon how they act, not their gender"

{cough}Maggie Thatcher {cough}

[artislife]

100. Catherine Medici nt

[SamKnause]

21. Clueless, the entire lot of them are totally clueless !!!!!

She is not the most qualified EVER to run for president.

She has POOR judgment. (Iraq, Libya, praising Kissinger and Albright)

She lies over and over. (We have the video's to prove it)

She supported every policy her husband put in place. (That has not

worked out well for the middle class, blacks, or the working poor.)

She is out of touch with rural America.

She is out of touch with the economics of this country.

I am sick of the Bush family.

I am sick of the Clinton family.


Senator Bernie Sanders has integrity, a proven track record, he understands

the economic situation in this country, he understand the MIC has too much

control over this countries policies, he supports equality for ALL, he understands

corruption has infested our government, judicial system, and Wall Street. I find

him to be sincere and humble.

FEEL THE BERN

[Avalux]

36. I couldnt' agree more - righteous post!

[SamKnause]

52. Thanks.

FEEL THE BERN

[kenn3d]

56. tweeted link

I've tweeted a link to your post Sam.
It speaks directly to and for a lot of us.

[SamKnause]

59. Thank you !!!

Spread it far and wide.

FEEL THE BERN

[MrMickeysMom]

25. And, I'm VERY DISAPPOINTED IN Jennifer Granholm...

Once, when she had an MSNBC program, I thought she wanted to encourage the activist inside every one of us, and instill the confidence more rare since the days we were told how we should look, dress and subserve the other gender.

Turns out, she was full of shit, because gender trumps free thinking women of all ages who can add numbers and count pennies after raising their families and trying to get ahead. Turns out, you have to do this PRAGMATICALLY...

I've written Jennifer Granholm off my list of those seeking truth, because once you're in that bubble, each day it makes it harder to burst out into reality.

Get real, Jennifer. It's your loss more than it is ours.

[Avalux]

37. That's the problem, she lives in the establishment bubble. n/t

[Kall]

31. Good Lord, the nerve.

Jennifer, women (and men) of your generation grew up with strong unions, regular wage increases, no trade deals with slave wage countries, no globalization, and where a good education was a ticket to a reliable full-time job and job security. Young women (and men) of today no longer have these things as they stare at a bleak future for themselves that has been bestowed upon them, and are supporting the candidate who they can see has stood up for them on the *issues* all his life. Who happens to be a man. Basically, the women (and men) of your generation benefited from these things, and the ladder has been kicked away for young women (and men) of today. And the woman you think young people should vote for out of duty will turn around and sign the TPP in a split second if elected.

[Avalux]

34. It's really a very selfish expectation that they have, you know?

It's all about them - they really don't care about the lives and concerns of young women (and men). They just want that woman president before they die, come hell or high water.

[Motown_Johnny]

33. The person who brought Michigan the "Emergency Manager"

What more can you expect?

[TTUBatfan2008]

38. Too bad Elizabeth Warren is not running....

The Clintons would be forced to answer for their corporatist policies like NAFTA that screwed over millions of average people instead of trying to distract and divide people with identity politics.

When they bring out these claims of sexism if you don't vote for Hillary, I can't help but wonder if Elizabeth wishes she decided to run. It would keep the campaign focused on the issues that matter, like the fact that the 99% are tired of a corporate owned two-party system that allows the 1% to run this country into the ground for their own profit.

[Avalux]

42. In my perfect world, it will be Sanders/Warren 2016. n/t

[TTUBatfan2008]

43. Not likely...

Clinton is still extremely likely to win the nomination. The entire machine is behind her and they're playing the gender card on top of machine politics. Elizabeth could have beaten her much easier than Sanders because it would have been a campaign solely on the issues. I think Warren knows this too (after seeing the grass roots response to Bernie) and I wonder if she regrets choosing to stay on the sidelines.

[Trajan]

81. Machine loses to people ...

If enough people show up to vote ....

[Pakhet]

75. mine too n/t

[John Poet]

41. Jennifer, I was disappointed in You in 2004

for ramming John Kerry through the Michigan caucuses.

[cyberswede]

44. I wonder if Shirley Chisolm's surrogates chastised young women in 1972?

[Avalux]

46. LOLOLOL!

[CharlotteVale]

45. Not another finger wagging surrogate! How many of them is Hill

gonna trot out?! This guilt trip scolding backfired spectacularly the last two times so she thinks third time's the charm?

It's bizarro world.

[basselope]

47. Did Obama try to shame black people in 2008?

As for the "most qualified" person to ever run for president (at least in my lifetime) would likely be Al Gore or maybe George HW Bush.

[JackRiddler]

51. Let's go all the way on "qualified" and give it to Kissinger.

He's the super-qualified Clinton's choice of someone who's qualified enough to judge her own qualifications!

[ErikJ]

53. But we dont want a Corporatocracy anymore. Democracy! nt

[zentrum]

57. This strategy is so not working.

I, as a woman, am incredibly disappointed in this branch of older feminists who are expecting gonad politics to be more important than behavior and policy.

Feh!

[grasswire]

58. Granholm gave the same performance earlier on MSNBC

Same dramatic tone of voice, same emphasis.

I found it cloying, and just the kind of tone that millennial women are likely to hate.

[Purveyor]

64. It is odd really and I'm not sure what she's trying to do with

that type of delivery.

[Cleita]

60. If it were Elizabeth Warren running, whom I would vote for in a heartbeat, I would be

offended if anyone tried to shame me into voting for her because she would be the first woman President. I would still vote for her because it's her ideas and experience I admire, not her gender. Please don't tell me as a woman I should vote for her because she's a woman.

Hillary would be wise to put a stop to her overly enthusiastic, but not helpful supporters.

[scottie55]

61. Sexism? What Sexism?

I am disappointed Jennifer.

That no one is calling you out on your sexism.

Vote for Hillary because she is a girl?

Disappointed in girls because they don't vote for girls?

I want the best president, not just someone of my own sex.

Someone who has never tired in the fight for my family.

Someone who never sold out to Wall Street once.

Are you disappointed in me?

[merrily]

62. No problem. A lot of young women are probably disappointed in Jennifer Granholm.

[DefenseLawyer]

67. Who is calling the shots over there?

Who decided the key to attracting younger women to the campaign was to call them ungrateful and stupid? Are Rahm and Mark Penn running things again? Truly idiotic.

[dana_b]

68. well I guess she should be disappointed in more than just the young ones

because I'm sure she wouldn't approve of the many middle aged (such as myself) and older ladies that I've seen here who are voting for Bernie too. But I guess I should be glad that she, Gloria and Madeline aren't berating us also. Such a "productive" strategy!

[southerncrone]

70. Me, too.

It is beyond insulting to infer that any female voter, of any age, should vote for Hillary just because she's a woman, and if she doesn't, she's somehow flawed.
This is the sign of a desperate candidate. PERIOD.

[werknotgoin2takeit]

74. During the Bush Years I Loved Her...

I hate seeing some of the women that I have admired go off the deep end. Honestly, I'm getting sick of hearing also how not liking or trusting Hillary is just because I've been brainwashed by the Republican Clinton smear machine, which was again proffered to me by Stephanie Miller and Eric Boehlert today on her show. No, I don't like her because she stinks of corruption, graft, and self-aggrandizement. I have very legitimate concerns about her and not one concerns her genitalia. As many others have said on here, NO MORE CLINTON'S!!! Enough is Enough!

[Truprogressive85]

76. Does The Dem. Establishment hate young women ?

DWS
Jennifer Granholm
Madeline A.

This really sad young women voters see pass the bull of HRC camp and they are being disrespected

[Nanjeanne]

77. I don't want them to shut up

It's such a poor strategy. KEEP IT UP PLEASE!

[MuseRider]

78. Many of us have worked to empower women.

Empowerment does not mean blindly following and voting for someone because they are a woman but having that choice to make on their own terms.

I will be very happy to vote for a woman when one is running who I find worthy.

This just sickens me. Ms. Granholm apparently has no idea what giving women a chance and choice means.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

79. Ageism discrimination

is a huge factor in the unrelenting poverty both men and women experience, but that doesn't get talked about. Except as regards Bernie.

[Warren DeMontague]

80. Boy, there's an awful lot of this "tsk tsk" thing going around, isn't there?

Who responds well to that shit? Do they really think 20something women are sitting around waiting for a lecture from their elders?

[PonyUp]

82. Hillary wants Stepford voters. n/t

[DonCoquixote]

83. I keep quoting David Bowie

"these children that you SPIT on, they're quite aware of what they're going through." Sadly, some Hillary supporters who are from Bowie's generation should get that, but they do not. They are more the the older brother in "all the young dudes" they are at home, with their Beatles and their Stones, but were nto strogn enough for that revolution stuff, what a drag...too many snags!"

[SwampG8r]

88. And these children that you spit on asthey

Try to change their world
Are immune to your consultations
They are aware of what theyre going through

Its the tryjng to change their world that is being objected to

Time for hillary to turn and face the changes

[DonCoquixote]

108. amen

and thank you

[NobodyHere]

84. I'm disappointed in Jennifer Granholm

She pretty much delivered Rick Snyder to the people of Michigan

[TBF]

85. Jennifer Granholm is a little older than I am

and should know better. We were around in the 70s and she would have been a teen then. The whole point was to give women CHOICE. It was in the press, on bumper stickers, etc.

CHOICE for women. Not "do what your mother tells you".

Smh.

[gollygee]

86. I love Jennifer Granholm. She was a great governor.

But I am going to put more thought into my vote than whether the person is a woman or not. I thoroughly believe either Bernie or Hillary will make a wonderful president as far as women's issues go. My vote is determined by where they are different, not by an area where they will do the same things.

[99Forever]

87. ...

Tone deaf, always.

Always.

[in_cog_ni_to]

89. THIS

is the crap that drives young ladies to Bernie! They really need to STFU and STOP playing the damn gender card! SMART WOMEN VOTE ON THE ISSUES, NOT GENDER!

JEEZUSEFFINGKRIST! It pisses me off and I'm not a "young" female voter, so I can only imagine how insulted they are!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Odin2005]

90. Shit like this is doing great damage to Feminism.

The more they pull this shit the more they risk an anti-feminist backlash from Millennials because it has become associated with the Establishment and Capitalist-Corporartist bourgeois "empowerment" nonsense that is "Feminism" for only rich, powerful women.

[FlatBaroque]

93. Associate with the Clinton's

tarnish your reputation. I used to love her.

[LWolf]

95. Shaming young women

into voting against their own choice is a direct slap in the face to democracy and to treating women as self-determining individuals.

[restorefreedom]

98. apparently, bernie having about 85% of millenial women is not enough for hillary.

she is looking to get him 100%

thanks, governor!!

[Orsino]

99. Our generation has done its best to train politicians...

...to sit up and beg for billionaires' money.

The only women candidates this cycle do exemplify this behavior, alas. The only alternative to corporatist candidates is a man, alas.

Our generation didn't do enough, and Granola isn't admitting that.

[fredamae]

101. Stunningly stupid to believe

bringing More women "in the club" out to shame our young and Old women into voting based on gender will work.

Whats the definition of crazy again? Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results?

I don't like "business as usual" politics and being "kettled" to vote LOTE. This stupidity lost so many seats in congress, governors, state legs etc in 2010-2012-2014 trying this crap.

[Le Taz Hot]

102. Uh, Grandholm *I'M* one of that generation

who "worked so hard to give young women the chance . . ." not to "pull the lever for a woman," but to have enough independent thought to make their own decision, based on their own criteria, as to whom they want to support for the presidency. THAT is why I'm so damned proud of them.

And millennials, these Establishment asshats DO NOT speak for Boomer women. The vast majority of us are working for other candidates.

[riversedge]

104. Seldem does anyone recognize they have lost something until it is entirely

gone. Thank you Jenniefer

[islandmkl]

105. losing an illusion can be losing nothing at all...

the tone-deafness rings loudly the past week or so with the Clinton campaign...

who the hell thinks haranguing your target audience is a good tactic?

[LondonReign2]

106. Vote based on a candidate's genitalia? Quite the stupid argument

[totodeinhere]

107. Here is a shout out to the many older women who also support Bernie.

The Clinton's are trying to turn this into a generational war. Let not fall for that. All generations need to stick together because we are all in this together.