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seafan

(9,387 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:12 AM Feb 2016

Bill Clinton: "Her opponent, the champion of all things small and the enemy of all things big"

I used to admire this man.



Former President Bill Clinton talked about the New Hampshire he campaigned in years ago while criticizing Bernie Sanders' policy proposals. | AP Photo

Bill Clinton batters and blasts Bernie Sanders, February 7, 2016

.....“The New Hampshire I campaigned in really cared that you knew what you were doing, and how it was paid for,” said Clinton, after ripping into Sanders’ universal healthcare plan and free college for all proposals as impossible to fund. ..... After explaining how Sanders has wiggled around on the details of his single-payer plan he said: “It is good for America, I don’t think so. Is it good for New Hampshire? I don’t think so. .....

Clinton accused Sanders of hypocrisy for portraying his wife as beholden to Wall Street because of campaign donations and speaking fees she has accepted from firms like Goldman Sachs. He said he “frankly, fell out of my chair” after reading a CNN report that Sanders has been a prolific Democratic fundraiser, raising cash from the financial sector at retreats in Palm Beach and Martha’s Vineyard. “Anybody who takes money from Goldman Sachs couldn’t possibly be President,” Clinton said. “He may have to tweak that answer a little bit, or we may have to get a write-in candidate.”

.....

He railed against how Sanders handled the data breach last December, when his operatives were able to access the Clinton campaign’s voter file because of a breach in the Democratic National Committee’s database — and seemed to know every intricate turn of the somewhat esoteric data scandal.

“It was your campaign that made 25 separate inquiries in the mere space of 30 minutes trying to (loot) information out of computers,” Clinton said, waving off Sanders’ public apology because “in private (his campaign) sent an email complaining (about the DNC) leaving the keys in the car, and said, all I did was drive off.” And Bill Clinton expressed outrage at the chutzpah of Sanders’ campaign to go and raise $1 million off the incident. “You gotta give it to em,” he said, “I mean, that’s really good."

..... “When it’s all said and done, all that matters is whether people are better off, whether young people have a better future. The rest of this is all background noise. All of this back and forth, it will blow away like smoke in the wind.”



So may the obscenely financially-beneficial future of the Clinton Foundation, if President Sanders takes the helm.




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Bill Clinton: "Her opponent, the champion of all things small and the enemy of all things big" (Original Post) seafan Feb 2016 OP
Lies, and the lying liars who tell them. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #1
The NH he campaigned in was 24 years ago Renew Deal Feb 2016 #2
Hahahaha!!! Don't Hillary's supporters tout her incrementalism? Thinking small? Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #3
Bill has it exactly ass-backward. He must think NH voters are complete idiots 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #4
He does. His red flannel costume proved as much. bunnies Feb 2016 #35
Yah nothing screams "i'm just like you" like red flannel 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #36
Had he not come with the nasty lies maybe things would have been different. bunnies Feb 2016 #40
What Bill said is downright ROVIAN! Odin2005 Feb 2016 #5
This is who they are, this is REALITY. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #6
Well said. This is REALITY. nm rhett o rick Feb 2016 #8
Bernie Sanders is the candidate that money didn't change. Gregorian Feb 2016 #7
I just find it rather sad. earthside Feb 2016 #9
Hmm, rufus dog Feb 2016 #10
when all is said and done DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #11
Masterful projection ... I would laugh Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #12
eek. He doesn't look okay. azmom Feb 2016 #13
Looks like he's doing a guest appearance MissDeeds Feb 2016 #15
My thought, as well... flor-de-jasmim Feb 2016 #28
There is something disturbing about that photo. Finally figured it out: he has no eyebrows. JimDandy Feb 2016 #18
... and what's the scab on his forehead? Myrina Feb 2016 #39
Pardon me but NowSam Feb 2016 #14
The Establishment Is Apoplectic About Bernie - No Tactic Is Too Low Or Malicious cantbeserious Feb 2016 #16
I do not listen to bosses that put interns on their knees SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #17
Great T Shirt catnhatnh Feb 2016 #19
Bill is obviously trying to torpedo Hillary's campaign again DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #20
read facial expressions in polititians olddots Feb 2016 #21
Not all that suprising tm1323 Feb 2016 #22
He's describing his wife. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #23
How Republican of him. nc4bo Feb 2016 #24
People don't care what the Clintons think anymore... CLINTON FATIGUE. Times have changed and in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #25
Slick Willie + NAFTA = Big . orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #26
Better get that mole checked Slick 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #27
Dear Bill: You're not helping. Respectfully, Hillary. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2016 #29
Bill doing what Bill does best .. Jarqui Feb 2016 #30
How can anyone support these liars ? ram2008 Feb 2016 #31
the Clinton Foundation is a chariry. eom artyteacher Feb 2016 #32
Bankrolled by Whom? orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #33
Slimy. AzDar Feb 2016 #34
No Bill, you are the enemy. Selling uranium rights to Russia for Clinton Foundation donations of ViseGrip Feb 2016 #37
so 'we the people' are somethings small? Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #38
From what I understand silenttigersong Feb 2016 #41
Great line from the Big Dog. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #42
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
4. Bill has it exactly ass-backward. He must think NH voters are complete idiots
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:20 AM
Feb 2016

...to buy into such a transparently bogus line of crap? Really Bill?

Don'e you know you've just insulted every NH voter with an IQ over 65?

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
35. He does. His red flannel costume proved as much.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:46 PM
Feb 2016

He thinks he can come here, lie his face off, and we're dumb enough to buy it.

Not. Gonna. Fucking. Work.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
36. Yah nothing screams "i'm just like you" like red flannel
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:25 PM
Feb 2016

I heard Bill's turn-out -- for an ex-president -- was anemic, way
under capacity. Must have been a little embarrassing.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
40. Had he not come with the nasty lies maybe things would have been different.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:37 PM
Feb 2016

Either way, he doesnt have the slick and charm anymore. These last 8 years havent been good to him. Its sad to see.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
7. Bernie Sanders is the candidate that money didn't change.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:26 AM
Feb 2016

I can't say that about any other candidate in this race.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
9. I just find it rather sad.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:27 AM
Feb 2016

Bill used to be a good campaigner ... but nothing lasts forever.

Hillary has never had the Bill Clinton political ability to connect with ordinary people.

The times have changed, indeed.

It isn't the 1990s anymore.

As every day goes by it becomes more and more evident that the Hillary Clinton campaign is just totally clueless about the plight of everyday real Americans. And it becomes more obvious every day that Hillary is totally compromised by all of her bankster associates, her high power lobbyist pals, her insider dealing, her scandals, her conservative foreign policy, etc.

The Clintons could have been elder states-people and beloved Democrats of the past ... but Hillary's ambition is going to leave them instead with a tarnished reputation.

As a person who was a county chair for the Bill Clinton campaign back in 1992, this all makes me sad in a lot of ways.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
10. Hmm,
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:28 AM
Feb 2016

College for all and Universal Healthcare, small things?

Bill, by that definition you had eight years to accomplish some small things and failed.

Or is it that you want to define what is big and small and who those big and small things help.

For full disclosure, the net result of a Sanders Presidency would likely just be higher taxes for me and not enough benefits to offset the cost. But that is ok, I think it would be an overall positive impact on the Country, kind of the patriotic thing to do, the moral thing to do, because it is not all about me. Get it Bill?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
11. when all is said and done
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:29 AM
Feb 2016

"..... “When it’s all said and done, all that matters is whether people are better off, whether young people have a better future. The rest of this is all background noise. All of this back and forth, it will blow away like smoke in the wind.”"

Bill, are you sure you want THIS to be your yardstick, because if that is the case, you are wayy wayy wayy behind.

Then again, if some of your supporters did not demonize everyone under 45, you might see that.

To quote David Bowie "but these children that you spit on, they're aware of what they are going through."

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
12. Masterful projection ... I would laugh
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:29 AM
Feb 2016

But I'm too nauseated by this jerk.

He has unwittingly and eloquently revealed his and Hilary's own values.

Give me an honest man (any gender) any day.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
18. There is something disturbing about that photo. Finally figured it out: he has no eyebrows.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:44 AM
Feb 2016

Is he undergoing chemo or some other serious malady?

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
14. Pardon me but
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:38 AM
Feb 2016

His time is over. It's Bern time now and I believe he woo do far more good for this world than WJC ever did.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
19. Great T Shirt
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:06 AM
Feb 2016

Across the top a little line of stick figures. Below that "Bernie 2016"
Then quote line "the champion of all things small and the enemy of all things big.”-Bill Clinton.
Across the bottom large bank logos...

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
20. Bill is obviously trying to torpedo Hillary's campaign again
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:10 AM
Feb 2016

The only real question is whether he's doing it intentionally or subconsciously.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
21. read facial expressions in polititians
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:10 AM
Feb 2016

its easy to see little tells that show you what cards they are holding .

The fake laugh
The pout or frown
The hand gesture to distract from the facial flinches ......Bernie is an honest man who believes what he says and says what he believes . I see the the Clintons as players , very good players in a high stakes game of liar's poker .

tm1323

(23 posts)
22. Not all that suprising
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:19 AM
Feb 2016

From a man that campaigned on universal healthcare coverage and expanding access to education and then turned around and betrayed the poor and working class. I don't know why Democrats have this mythical notion in mind that Clinton was a great President. He was center left just like Hillary is center left. When you're campaign is funded by millionaires and billionaires your policies are going to reflect it.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
25. People don't care what the Clintons think anymore... CLINTON FATIGUE. Times have changed and
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 08:49 AM
Feb 2016

changed for the worse *THANKS TO BILL CLINTON'S POLICIES* - Welfare Reform, Glass Steagall, NAFTA, etc...

Retire Bill. Go away. Enjoy time with your grandkids while you can.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
27. Better get that mole checked Slick
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 08:52 AM
Feb 2016

Or is that a fly trying to find your brains?

In response to the pic of slick willy, not to the OP

Buns_of_Fire

(17,192 posts)
29. Dear Bill: You're not helping. Respectfully, Hillary.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 09:13 AM
Feb 2016

P.S. Don't forget to pick up a quart of milk and that check from Citicorp on your way home. Thx. -H

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
31. How can anyone support these liars ?
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 09:35 AM
Feb 2016

They pollute the Democratic Party with their nonsense. Please just go away Bill and family and smears and dirty politics with you.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
37. No Bill, you are the enemy. Selling uranium rights to Russia for Clinton Foundation donations of
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

MILLIONS! YOU ARE TRAITORS.

silenttigersong

(957 posts)
41. From what I understand
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:40 PM
Feb 2016

The data breech thing could very well still be litigated.I personally believe there was impropriety with the Clinton campaign,that was during her email _server, scandal peak.This is what I believe, from the twists and turns from Bill Clinton it reinforces that belief.TRUST is the issue!
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