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ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:53 PM Feb 2016

Sanders Builds on Lead Over Clinton in N.H.: CNN-WMUR Poll

Bernie Sanders has 61% support in N.H.’s Democratic presidential race, up from 58% in survey released yday, while rival Hillary Clinton holds steady at 35%, according to CNN-WMUR tracking poll.

A third of those polled say they’re still open to changing their mind; 64% say they’ve definitely decided

NOTE: Poll surveyed 363 likely voters in N.H. Democratic primary between Feb. 4-8, margin of error +/- 5.1 ppts


http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-02-08/sanders-builds-on-lead-over-clinton-in-n-h-cnn-wmur-poll

If Hillary Clinton can get the difference under 20% tomorrow, I will consider that a win.
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Sanders Builds on Lead Over Clinton in N.H.: CNN-WMUR Poll (Original Post) ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 OP
Just keep lowering that bar HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #1
Yup. Smells like a poll cooked up to make Hillary look when she "only" loses by 10. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #4
If a 20-point loss is a win, than a 10-point loss is a complete blowout! frylock Feb 2016 #15
they said she won with 0.2%. makes you wonder what % of a roguevalley Feb 2016 #19
I'm not doing anything except posting polling results. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #10
And saying if Hillary loses by under 20 then it's a "victory" HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #25
Bernie Sanders beat expectations in Iowa and came out with positive coverage ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #28
That's because... HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #31
Bernie is expected to win NH in a landslide of +30% points. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #33
No he isn't HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #34
WMUR is a respected tvs station in NH ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #35
The newest poll they showed on MSNBC has Hillary down only 13 points. leftofcool Feb 2016 #2
Do you recall the polling outfit? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #8
WOW. That's incredible merbex Feb 2016 #3
I think.. speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #5
If that's a win to you SheenaR Feb 2016 #6
You're a good person. Thank you :). nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #7
Yeah SheenaR Feb 2016 #11
I've seen some pols with Bernie up +30%. If Hillary can knock off at least 10 points ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #13
You can call it what you want SheenaR Feb 2016 #18
What if a dog had two tails. Then what? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #22
You can try to spin poop into gold CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #30
If she gets within 10 then she is the new comeback back kid. If she gets within 20 ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #32
No matter the angrychair Feb 2016 #9
Everyone knows that Bernie has to win all 57 states by a margin greater than 110%.. frylock Feb 2016 #12
I like your sense of humor. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #14
I wish I could say the feeling was mutual. frylock Feb 2016 #17
:( nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #21
No. Even if he does win all 57 states, the Superdelegates will still elect Hillary! Yayayyay!!! reformist2 Feb 2016 #26
Unfortunately for the Superdelegates, the one vote they get in the GE.. frylock Feb 2016 #29
I mean... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #16
I don't see a huge blowout SheenaR Feb 2016 #20
You are so good at playing the expectations game. Can you teach me? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #24
On the news this evening, they Karma13612 Feb 2016 #27
BAM! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #23
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #36
BREAKING: Hillary gets one vote in New Hampshire, ProudToBeLiberal declares it a landslide victory DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #37
I promise I will not do this. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #38

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
19. they said she won with 0.2%. makes you wonder what % of a
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:25 PM
Feb 2016

win she will claim if she loses by 10-30%?

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
28. Bernie Sanders beat expectations in Iowa and came out with positive coverage
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:37 PM
Feb 2016

Even though Hillary won Iowa. So, if Hillary beats expectation in NH she should also get the same benefits. It'seems only fair unless you want to apply different double standard on Hillary Clinton.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
31. That's because...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:41 PM
Feb 2016

Expectations in Iowa were that Hillary would win by a landslide. Nobody except hardcore Bernie supporters believed it would be that close. Right now in NH, polls suggest Bernie could run away with it, but I don't think anyone actually expects him to win by 20. I know *he* doesn't. I think the only way Hillary "wins" if she loses is if the final result is within 5 points. Then it will actually be a close election, which right now it's not supposed to be.

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
33. Bernie is expected to win NH in a landslide of +30% points.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:45 PM
Feb 2016

If Hillary can even dent that and lose by 20% then that'she a huge accomplishment and a win.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
34. No he isn't
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:46 PM
Feb 2016

Where on earth did you get that number? The CNN poll? CNN has consistently polled Bernie higher than other pollsters, and if you look at the HuffPost average or RCP you'll see that he's up by about 15 points. It's very possible actual voting tomorrow is closer than that.

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
35. WMUR is a respected tvs station in NH
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:49 PM
Feb 2016

It's the only statewide news station. People in NH take a lot of stalk in its polling results. If Hillary manages to get the difference to 20% it's a huge win. Nh is Bernie's back yard. He should really win by 40%.

merbex

(3,123 posts)
3. WOW. That's incredible
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:59 PM
Feb 2016

I was blogging out of there in '08 and it was so close that I couldn't get my Obama supporting friend to pick up his phone - he was so disappointed.

NH never fails to surprise either way - win or lose, imo.

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
5. I think..
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:05 PM
Feb 2016

she'll outperform expectations. If she under performs expectations it could be an interesting few weeks because there are some filing deadlines approaching for big states in case another candidate is tempted to enter.

She has so many endorsements in so many states because no one thought it would be close. Tough climb for Sanders.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
6. If that's a win to you
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

Then that's downright sad. Considering you were one to lead the charge against any Samders supporter claiming a moral victory in Iowa.

Eff that. Don't start backing down now. A win is a win. A loss is a loss. Especially when you already WON there. If you do that and lose by 20? Perhaps they should start panicking

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
13. I've seen some pols with Bernie up +30%. If Hillary can knock off at least 10 points
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:22 PM
Feb 2016

I call it a win. It would be historic. She would be the new comeback kid.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
18. You can call it what you want
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:25 PM
Feb 2016

Heck you can call a dog's tail a leg and say it has 5 legs.

Calling it that doesn't make it so though.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
30. You can try to spin poop into gold
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:40 PM
Feb 2016

if you want. That's your choice. But no one else, including Clinton and her campaign, will see a ten-point loss as a win.

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
32. If she gets within 10 then she is the new comeback back kid. If she gets within 20
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:43 PM
Feb 2016

She won by beating expectations.

angrychair

(8,732 posts)
9. No matter the
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:19 PM
Feb 2016

Poll, Clinton supporters will claim any showing a "win"...loss by 20...WIN....loss by 15...WIN...loss by 10...WIN
Sanders supporters claim "tie" in Iowa in what is definitively a statistical anomaly of .3 of a delegate and we are sore losers and crybabies.

Got it!

frylock

(34,825 posts)
12. Everyone knows that Bernie has to win all 57 states by a margin greater than 110%..
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:21 PM
Feb 2016

in order for him to be considered eligible to be considered eligible for office of president.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
29. Unfortunately for the Superdelegates, the one vote they get in the GE..
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:39 PM
Feb 2016

won't make up for the millions they end up costing Dems by throwing the election to Hillary.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
16. I mean...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:24 PM
Feb 2016

it's not like she was up by 40 on him less than a year ago in the same state. Wait, wait...she was. Home state advantage didn't seem to make a lick of difference at that point.

This is the "shock" that Andrea Mitchell is likely referring to regarding the fact that the Clinton campaign is possibly making some staff changes in the near future. If I was in their position I would probably be pretty shocked by the change from a year ago as well.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
20. I don't see a huge blowout
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

But if there is one, there has to be a shakeup in the Clinton camp. With her national profile, she cannot be losing by 20-30 anywhere. That's unacceptable if I am donating big money to her campaign.

Karma13612

(4,554 posts)
27. On the news this evening, they
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:36 PM
Feb 2016

were talking with Hillary and she mentioned that if needed, they would make changes.

So, you could be right.

They might want to re-tool a bit after NH.

Will be interesting to see, after tomorrow nights results.

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