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Henry Fucking Kissinger (Original Post) XemaSab Feb 2016 OP
And Hillary took offense at being compared to Cheney? 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #1
Because in her heart of hearts avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #8
GOOD POINT! Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #11
Thank you. Cleita Feb 2016 #2
The military-industrial complex are Corporations, too! John Poet Feb 2016 #36
... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #3
lol LWolf Feb 2016 #5
Ha! Erich I KNEW you Mbrow Feb 2016 #18
Woody Allen portrayed Henry Kissinger. Sort of. RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #31
"might"? HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #4
There is a special place in hell for those who do not come to heel Fumesucker Feb 2016 #6
That's a low death toll for Iraq XemaSab Feb 2016 #7
sadly true Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #12
About 20,000 American GIs also died needlessly in VN hifiguy Feb 2016 #19
52 000 in Viet Nam senta Feb 2016 #21
The 20,000 was inclusive only of those who died hifiguy Feb 2016 #23
20,000 after he sabotaged peace talks in 1968 ErikJ Feb 2016 #24
Yup. High Treason. That was his purpose for Watergate breakin ErikJ Feb 2016 #22
LBJ himself called it treason. hifiguy Feb 2016 #25
And Americans wonder; Rilesome Feb 2016 #28
He's a mass murderer. SHRED Feb 2016 #9
The fact that this hasn't killed any chance she had Lordquinton Feb 2016 #10
Hillary, Albright, and Kissinger... Three peas in a murderous pod, really... AzDar Feb 2016 #13
Didn't you get the memo? JoeyT Feb 2016 #14
I got a memo from Hillary.... John Poet Feb 2016 #37
Can't understand this shadowmayor Feb 2016 #15
When we say Hillary is part of the Washington Establishment.... jalan48 Feb 2016 #16
He definitely outdistances Cheney. hifiguy Feb 2016 #17
He was just doing Rilesome Feb 2016 #32
Welcome to DU! XemaSab Feb 2016 #35
You know, HRC's remarks were unprompted . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #20
Henry Kissinger 'considered Cuba air strikes' in 1976 neverforget Feb 2016 #26
"Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state." PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #27
That is enough to gag a goat. hifiguy Feb 2016 #29
How "progressive" of you, Hillary. democrank Feb 2016 #30
Yep. bvf Feb 2016 #33
Notice any influences upon Hillary with the following quotes? sorechasm Feb 2016 #34
Dr Henry Killinger And His Magic Murder Bag (repost) Babel_17 Feb 2016 #38
Thanks for the thread, while the msm ignores this. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #39
david corn was on last night and he about had a cow over her praise of the war criminal questionseverything Feb 2016 #41
k/r AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #40

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. Thank you.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

I was about to ignore her past connections with Bloodinger, until she praised him at that very recent debate. The fact that she considers him her guru in foreign policy makes my blood turn to ice to think that this will probably be the policy a Clinton administration will follow. What can only happen is war and more war so that the war industries keep profitable.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
31. Woody Allen portrayed Henry Kissinger. Sort of.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:53 PM
Feb 2016

Although he called his character Harvey Wallinger.

https://m.



(Clever disguise. No one would've ever guessed!)
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. "might"?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:17 PM
Feb 2016

Cheney responsible for 600,000 deaths in Iraq.
Kissinger responsible for 6,000,000 deaths across three continents.

If Clinton has a problem with Dick Cheney, it would appear that she thinks he didn't go far enough.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
7. That's a low death toll for Iraq
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:26 PM
Feb 2016

Plus other people killed in the Middle East, Central Asia, Africa, and wherever the hell else we've been engaging in secret wars.

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

How many people have been killed by the US military in the last 50 years?

But props to your numbers.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
12. sadly true
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

though Vietnam and Cambodia suffered more deaths than Iraq.

OTOH, lots of people can be blamed for Vietnam, but Cheney had a special place in promoting the Iraq war.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. About 20,000 American GIs also died needlessly in VN
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:56 PM
Feb 2016

because Kissinger and Nixon sabotaged LBJ's peace talks in 1968, then agreed to almost exactly the same deal four years later to cement the Trickster's re-election.

Henry Kissinger is a demon in human form and utterly evil.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
23. The 20,000 was inclusive only of those who died
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:06 PM
Feb 2016

after Nixon was inaugurated. Just to clarify.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
25. LBJ himself called it treason.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:07 PM
Feb 2016

But didn't think that, as an outgoing President, he could do anything about it.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
10. The fact that this hasn't killed any chance she had
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:27 PM
Feb 2016

Speaks to how far to the right the party has wandered. And how little memory we have of those events.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
14. Didn't you get the memo?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:40 PM
Feb 2016

No one can prove Cheney did anything wrong, so there's no reason to prosecute him for war crimes.

As for Kissinger, anyone that thinks he's anything but a good patriotic American that did what was best for America is a conspiracy theorist.

Lots of people get mighty upset when anyone appoints themselves the judge of who is and isn't liberal or progressive, but it kind of feels like the cutoff oughta be somewhere way before defending or praising people responsible for hundreds of thousands if not millions of deaths, otherwise neither word has any meaning at all.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
15. Can't understand this
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:44 PM
Feb 2016

Real Politic - euphemism for killing tons of poor people to achieve some military/political objective that makes Wall Street happy. I guess Hillary thinks he's an OK guy? Maybe she doesn't understand how many Americans despise war criminals like fuckhead Henry? Probably she thinks it will secure her some votes?

But like some have already said, it speaks volumes about our country that she even sees an opportunity to bring up his name. Too many citizens let the TV do their thinking for them (if they think much at all) and when they see war criminals like Kissinger, or Rumsfeld, or others on TV they get the message that these people are acceptable and credible.

Unfrigginbelievable!

jalan48

(13,869 posts)
16. When we say Hillary is part of the Washington Establishment....
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:47 PM
Feb 2016

this is the kind of shit we are talking about.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
17. He definitely outdistances Cheney.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:47 PM
Feb 2016

Henry the K was all for taking the Vietnam War into Cambodia. That gave the world the Khmer Rouge and 2.5 million dead Cambodians in the killing fields.

in addition to the millions of Vietnamese and countless Laotians, Argentinians, Chileans, Timorese. This list is far from all-inclusive.

And she's so PROUD and HAPPY to embrace one of the post-WW II era's most notorious butchers.

That tells me every last thing I need to know about HRH.

In a world that truly cared about the rule of law, Kissinger would have been hanged for crimes against humanity 30 years ago and his ashes dumped in a river.

Rilesome

(33 posts)
32. He was just doing
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:01 PM
Feb 2016

The bidding of the MIC. Which rolls through administration after administration. Follow the freaking money. Simple.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
35. Welcome to DU!
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:12 AM
Feb 2016

As Fox Mulder put it, the Military-Industrial-Entertainment Complex.

Follow the freaking money.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
20. You know, HRC's remarks were unprompted . .
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:59 PM
Feb 2016

she really thinks that kudos from Kissinger are a feather in her cap.

To me, it shows that she is so much a part of the foreign policy elite that
she does not understand how millions of people, including most
democrats, feel about that unreconstructed war criminal.

Living in a bubble - a very dangerous one for the rest of us.

And by the way folks, don't just complain about this, do something -
like join Veterans For Peace

You owe it to your grand kids to at least try.

Now I am off to a pot-luck with the ladies from WILPF - they are almost
as much fun as the Raging Grannies.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
26. Henry Kissinger 'considered Cuba air strikes' in 1976
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.bbc.com/news/29441281

He was angered by Cuba's 1976 military intervention in Angola and was considering retaliation if Cuban forces were deployed elsewhere in Africa.

The information comes from documents declassified at the request of the National Security Archive.

They show that Mr Kissinger was eager for the US to stand up to Cuba.

The documents from the Gerald R Ford Presidential Library show that US officials devised plans to attack ports and military installations in Cuba in addition to measures ordered by Mr Kissinger to deploy Marine battalions based at the US Navy base at Guantanamo Bay to "clobber" the Cubans.

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"I think we are going to have to smash Castro," Mr Kissinger told Mr Ford in a White House meeting in February 1976, adding Mr Ford should defer action until after the presidential election that November.

"I agree," Mr Ford said.

US contingency plans drawn up on the options warned any military aggression by the US in Cuba could lead to a direct confrontation with the USSR.

"The circumstances that could lead the United States to select a military option against Cuba should be serious enough to warrant further action in preparation for general war," one document said.

The plans were never undertaken, as Jimmy Carter was elected president that year.


Thank God cooler heads prevailed and Carter won. We probably wouldn't be here now if Kissinger had his way.
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
33. Yep.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know what sickens me more: her connection to the bastard, or the obvious fact that she thinks people would be stupid enough to regard it as an asset.


"Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize."

-Tom Lehrer

sorechasm

(631 posts)
34. Notice any influences upon Hillary with the following quotes?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:25 PM
Feb 2016
"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." Kissinger As quoted in The New York Times (28 October 1973)

"I've always acted alone. Americans like that immensely." ; Kissinger, as quoted in "Special Section: Chagrined Cowboy" in TIME magazine (8 October 1979)

"The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvelously."
As quoted in "Special Section: They Are Fated to Succeed" in TIME magazine (2 January 1978)

"America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests."
Henry Kissinger: The White House Years, quoted from Dinesh D'Souza: What's so great about America. This echoes Lord Palmerston's words: "We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual".


Best characterized as cold-hearted arrogance. Don't you dare question his motives or 'you will seem weak'.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
38. Dr Henry Killinger And His Magic Murder Bag (repost)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:08 PM
Feb 2016


Dr. Henry Killinger is a man (or being) of extraordinary means who offers his services as a consultant, advising those he believes to be truly in need, whether they be good or evil. He has always tried to do what he sees as best for his client. When his task is completed he moves on to find another person who needs his assistance.

The only exceptions to his kind behavior were when he murdered a group of obstinate union representatives that were thwarting his plan to re-start work at Venture Industries, and was indifferent to Byron Orpheus. He at times uses references from The Bible, ancient proverbs, and moral stories to represent the situations his patients are going through and will often use his powers to create situations similar to these parables as symbolic challenges that his patients must overcome. Oddly enough he assumes the role of the Devil during these metaphors.

His existence and abilities appear to be beyond mortal understanding as not even Doctor Byron Orpheus could penetrate into his mind and soul to find out the truth about his identity. Orpheus' attempt to use his abilities to read Dr. Killinger's mind proved so straining that it resulted in his temporary mental collapse.


http://venturebrothers.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Henry_Killinger
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