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brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:03 PM Feb 2016

Sanders may be losing NH Independents

Listened to a discussion here with Democrats and Republicans. Independents are leaning to Sanders as 1st choice and Kasich as 2nd choice. If Sanders looks like he's got an insurmountable lead, they may shift to the Republican Primary where Kasich is polling 2nd.

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Sanders may be losing NH Independents (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2016 OP
If that conversation tells you anything... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #1
HRC has all but lost the Northeast. If SBS is viable in the next few weeks, even CT will fall. nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #16
You MAY be thinking wishful thoughts. Not sure. Just maybe. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #2
Here this might help: Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #3
God, warren, that is funny. :D:D:D roguevalley Feb 2016 #25
Where is "here"? Nt bunnies Feb 2016 #4
New Hampshire, of course brooklynite Feb 2016 #9
In that case, welcome to NH. bunnies Feb 2016 #17
Right now in Nashua... brooklynite Feb 2016 #27
Driving back to NY? Tonight? bunnies Feb 2016 #29
Actually someone put us up. Hitting the road now. brooklynite Feb 2016 #30
Oh good. bunnies Feb 2016 #32
I bet that was a long ride home. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #40
Preparing us for when the votes get flipped? Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #5
"Subject line complete bullshit" should be your subtitle Doctor_J Feb 2016 #6
Uh oh! bravenak Feb 2016 #7
But they sure as hell won't go to Hillary, now or in the GE. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #8
It's not occurring to you that Hillary isn't their 1st or 2nd choice? Arazi Feb 2016 #10
Exactly... ViseGrip Feb 2016 #11
They don't care... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #12
T-rump maybe losing his edge? Iliyah Feb 2016 #13
No wonder I read in local OH paper that Kasich is saying he "isn't establishment." RiverLover Feb 2016 #14
Setting up a smoke screen for more election fraud by Camp Weathervane? AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #15
Lol! Anecdotal clap trap! morningfog Feb 2016 #18
So you hung out with some of your buddies... JackRiddler Feb 2016 #19
That is not surprising. longship Feb 2016 #20
Cool story. frylock Feb 2016 #21
If... artislife Feb 2016 #22
These don't sound like very reliable voters Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #23
This would be bad strategy for Sanders supporters, because it's not winner-take-all thesquanderer Feb 2016 #24
if ifs and buts were candy and nuts restorefreedom Feb 2016 #26
Bizarre line of 'reasoning' AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #28
So now Clinton supporters are rooting for the GOP to win over our voters? Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #31
And then there is this: New Hampshire Independents Could Boost Kasich, Sanders Purveyor Feb 2016 #33
Or maybe not Doctor_J Feb 2016 #34
This is among the more fun predictions to revisit today. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #35
Some weird trial balloons get floated at crunch time. Doctor_J Feb 2016 #36
Hillary has never even had NH independents pinebox Feb 2016 #37
Kickety! cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #38
And the Titanic sailed all the way to New York unscathed in that alternate universe. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #39
Cool story bro Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #41
Very very cool! kath Feb 2016 #42
Sanders Sanders he's our man if he can't do it Kasich can Fumesucker Feb 2016 #43

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
1. If that conversation tells you anything...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:05 PM
Feb 2016

...it's that you should get behind Sanders now. Why isn't Hillary their second choice? Bernie will get the crossover vote in the GE.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
17. In that case, welcome to NH.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

I hope you have a wonderful visit. Please tell me you're somewhere other than Manchester.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
8. But they sure as hell won't go to Hillary, now or in the GE.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:19 PM
Feb 2016

You should keep that in mind when considering who is more electable.



Arazi

(6,829 posts)
10. It's not occurring to you that Hillary isn't their 1st or 2nd choice?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:22 PM
Feb 2016

And if Sanders isn't on the ballot, they'll swing Republican instead of to Hillary?

You do realize this is what many independent Sanders supporters have been saying?

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
14. No wonder I read in local OH paper that Kasich is saying he "isn't establishment."
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:39 PM
Feb 2016

The amount of sh*t these guys shovel is mind-blowing.

Hes not establishment. Like Hillary saying that...

Got to give the voters what they want! (till elected)

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
19. So you hung out with some of your buddies...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

then you drew a conclusion that only happens to fit in with your constant activity on this board, which is to electioneer for Clinton.

And then you decided to share it with us! Thanks so much. It comes as such a shock that you would say this, and of course it's totally inside info.

longship

(40,416 posts)
20. That is not surprising.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:56 PM
Feb 2016

I have, on occasion crossed party to influence an opponent party's primary. Not often, but I've done it when there was a reasonable concerted effort to change an outcome.

I expect that this is not such a concerted effort. Not that it is isn't. It just isn't likely to be.

My regards.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
23. These don't sound like very reliable voters
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:13 PM
Feb 2016

I do not trust anyone who would have Bernie as first choice and Kasich as second choice. A person like that could go in any direction in the general election, since they clearly have no idea what they're voting for.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
24. This would be bad strategy for Sanders supporters, because it's not winner-take-all
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:15 PM
Feb 2016

"Winning" isn't the goal. The goal is to get as many delegates as you can. Their votes for Sanders still matters, even if he has an insurmountable lead. (Which is still not a sure thing.)

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
31. So now Clinton supporters are rooting for the GOP to win over our voters?
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 07:47 AM
Feb 2016

That, sir, is just wrong. Please take your scorched earth campaign somewhere else.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
33. And then there is this: New Hampshire Independents Could Boost Kasich, Sanders
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016
Some voters are crossing party lines in the Live Free or Die state.

February 9, 2016

Nearly half the voters in New Hampshire's presidential primaries Tuesday aren't registered in either political party, and that could be good news for Ohio Governor John Kasich.

Kasich has built his appeal in New Hampshire around a Midwest-sensible persona and tight-fisted fiscal record that many independents love. These undeclared voters are why some predict Kasich could pull off a strong finish here even without the star-power of Donald Trump or the youthful appeal of Marco Rubio.

“He’s not bad-mouthing anybody,” said Suzanne Appleton, 76, who isn’t registered with a political party and usually supports Democrats but is backing Kasich this time. “He’s just saying, ‘You know, there’s a job to be done, and let's just do it.’”

Forty-four percent of voters in the nation's first primary state are independents, up from 40 percent in 2008, according to the secretary of state. They're allowed to vote in either party's primary on Election Day, which could give them significant clout if they weighed in on a Republican contest where at least four candidates are clustered behind Trump for second place.

“It’s a factor that’s gotten bigger every cycle, and it shows no signs of slowing down,” said Steve Koczela, who's surveyed New Hampshire independents as president of MassINC Polling Group and found Kasich and Sanders buoyed by the most favorable perceptions among these voters in a mid-January WBUR poll.

more...

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-02-09/new-hampshire-independents-could-boost-kasich-sanders

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