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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:22 PM Feb 2016

Who’s excited about a woman president?

DERRY, NH – “I don’t want to sound old,” says Gina Hutchinson. Like almost every other woman interviewed at recent Hillary Clinton events in New Hampshire, Hutchinson hesitated when a reporter asked her age. (It’s 67.)

She doesn’t want to sound old, but in the waning minutes of a rain-soaked Clinton event at the Derry Boys and Girls’ Club, she wanted to say what Hillary Clinton means to her, and it meant tracing the years they both lived. “She came out of high school at the same time as us,” Hutchinson says. She pauses. “We went into teaching and nursing. She became an attorney.”

Hutchinson, strictly speaking, went into teaching, but also politics. She served in New Hampshire’s 400-member House of Representatives for two years, until 2008. New Hampshire happens to be a rare bastion of women holding political office: Both its senators, its governor, and one of its two representatives in the House are women.

Still, there’s one position no woman has held. “No one ever said to any of us,” Hutchinson says, “when you grow up, you can be president.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-whos-excited-about-woman-president
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Who’s excited about a woman president? (Original Post) SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP
Ah, the Boys and Girls Club Trajan Feb 2016 #1
WARREN - 2020, Her slogan "Warren - Seeing Clearly Into The Future!" TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #50
she became a lawyer because she always had money. I didn't and so I couldn't. roguevalley Feb 2016 #59
Being a woman is the most important reason to elect a person president in this election!!???? avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #2
Yes another post literally BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #32
Your post at best is laughable. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #48
Bet that poster thinks it's OK for a former Secretary of State to also Fawke Em Feb 2016 #65
It's reason enough. Orsino Feb 2016 #68
I'm likewise 67. SheilaT Feb 2016 #3
I'm excited about electing the very best candidate, regardless of gender .. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #4
I am and I look forward to President Warren after President Sanders term is done. eom Cleita Feb 2016 #5
me 2 840high Feb 2016 #7
My answer too 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #9
Ohhhh yes! avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #49
ME!!! ME!!! KansDem Feb 2016 #6
I'm really tired of the gender card. HRH is NOT going to win - just because she's female. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #8
Hill will win primarily because of the support of women. oasis Feb 2016 #11
+1! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #19
A toast to your most excellent post. oasis Feb 2016 #21
Thanks, oasis! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #22
Well said. ohheckyeah Feb 2016 #35
so true rbrnmw Feb 2016 #28
the amazing thing is that this doesn't turn off men at all 6chars Feb 2016 #29
Some of her votes will be for that very reason. Orsino Feb 2016 #69
I'm not fine with it. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #70
Identity politics isn't going away. Orsino Feb 2016 #72
If it was WARREN YES! Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #10
Only people who don't understand the issues. basselope Feb 2016 #12
Dismissive much? Beacool Feb 2016 #16
And what will Hillary get done? What issues will she get Republicans to vote with her on? LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #23
100% dismissive of anyone... basselope Feb 2016 #24
And of course no repsonse from Hillary cheerleaders LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #66
This post drips with misogyny ... BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #26
Hating women is misogyny. Choosing the best person for the job is not. The Wielding Truth Feb 2016 #52
No, it doesn't basselope Feb 2016 #60
I am. bravenak Feb 2016 #13
I think it's cool but has nothing to do with supporting Hillary treestar Feb 2016 #14
I am voting for Hillary because she is by far the best qualified person to hold the job. Beacool Feb 2016 #15
The future accomplishments of Madam President will validate your choice. oasis Feb 2016 #27
Very unlikely she'll ever be President cali Feb 2016 #34
"She's alienating millions of would be democratic voters" oasis Feb 2016 #44
There's a heck more likelihood of Hillary becoming president than of Sanders getting nominated. Beacool Feb 2016 #46
You and wallstreet! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #57
I AM!!! cui bono Feb 2016 #17
Best response of this thread dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #25
I'm ready jen63 Feb 2016 #37
Nina turner is a gem Krytan11c Feb 2016 #56
I really hope this campaign jen63 Feb 2016 #58
Excited by the thought of a neocon with ethics problem? Nope. cali Feb 2016 #18
Warren - 2024 SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #20
A woman President would be great, but I prefer an honest person of integrity. southerncrone Feb 2016 #30
I bet you think ohheckyeah Feb 2016 #41
He's doing neither of those things. stillwaiting Feb 2016 #43
Hear, hear!!! Beacool Feb 2016 #47
And JFK said, "...we choose to go to the moon..." The Wielding Truth Feb 2016 #54
Throughout history, all people of vision are met w/naysayers. southerncrone Feb 2016 #55
Yeah, like FDR, with that Social Security and Glass Steagall and all that impossible stuff Trajan Feb 2016 #63
I am mainstreetonce Feb 2016 #31
I am! Just not this woman eom Arazi Feb 2016 #33
+1 AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #36
Women elect Democratic Presidents. onehandle Feb 2016 #38
I Am ----- Go Elizabeth! Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #39
When Carol Moseley Braun ran I was, not so much now. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #40
Elizabeth Warren! RiverLover Feb 2016 #42
I'm worried about a Republican president. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #45
I am starting to think Jill Stein may have a chance...nt artislife Feb 2016 #51
As the father of two daughters, I am excited Gothmog Feb 2016 #53
I'm excited about having SUCH A QUALIFIED and BRILLIANT person in the WH. The fact that ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #61
Meh. I want the best PERSON leading this country, male or female. Avalux Feb 2016 #62
Yes, We Really Need to Elect the Next Iron Lady: Hillary -- A Margaret Thatcher for Our Time! Justina For Justice Feb 2016 #64
Great post. Vinca Feb 2016 #67
+ a Gazillion! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #73
"Vote for Lady MacBeth in 2016!" Myrina Feb 2016 #71
 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
1. Ah, the Boys and Girls Club
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:26 PM
Feb 2016

That's the outfit that paid Hillary in excess of $300,000 for one single speech, is that correct?

I hope she spoke directly to the kids afterwards, and imparted some words of wisdom ...

Um ... What? ... You don't say?

!#=$&

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
59. she became a lawyer because she always had money. I didn't and so I couldn't.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:31 PM
Feb 2016

I have no sentiment about this. Someone like Warren compels me deeply because she has her priorities right: Us.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
2. Being a woman is the most important reason to elect a person president in this election!!????
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:27 PM
Feb 2016

Don't think so. Thank God most of us are beyond such naivete.






 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
48. Your post at best is laughable.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:49 PM
Feb 2016

You have no idea of the meaning of misogyny.

Certainly the idea that women who instead choose to vote for Bernie Sanders instead of HRC are
misogynist - is a childish and a foolish attack on your part.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
65. Bet that poster thinks it's OK for a former Secretary of State to also
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:06 PM
Feb 2016

condemn us women to hell if we don't support Her Majesty.

Talk about misogyny!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
68. It's reason enough.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:12 PM
Feb 2016

The penile requirement is a bugbear that has long needed slaying.

It's not reason enough for me to prefer Clinton, but there are plenty of single-issue voters out there.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
4. I'm excited about electing the very best candidate, regardless of gender ..
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:30 PM
Feb 2016

A guy who -- if elected-- will be the first Jewish President. <-- Bonus points.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
8. I'm really tired of the gender card. HRH is NOT going to win - just because she's female.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:33 PM
Feb 2016

And if this gender shit doesn't stop, she going to lose even more voters than she has already lost.
It's not helping her, at all!

Sheesh.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

oasis

(49,388 posts)
11. Hill will win primarily because of the support of women.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:39 PM
Feb 2016

I know it's hard for some to get used to the idea.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
19. +1!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:03 PM
Feb 2016

And despite our repeating - over and over and over again - that the main reason women voters choose to vote for Hillary is NOT BECAUSE she is a woman, they refuse to acknowledge that.

We choose to vote for HIllary because she is, hands down, the best all-round candidate in the running in 2016 - of either gender - and she also happens to be a woman who has walked the walk, talked the talk and been on the front lines of advocacy for women's rights both in the US and around the world.

The patronizing sexism in the continuing failure to acknowledge that has completely turned me off. All one has to do is to look at most responses to this OP. And then come the comparisons: ah, so you would vote for Sarah Palin or Carly Fiorina or some other totally unqualified RW scam artist. B***S***!

There is NO comparison. The mere fact that such comparisons are made is misogynistic through and through. The most patronizing and sexist thing that John McCain did in 2008 was to think that Hillary supporters would automatically support Sarah Palin because SHE is a woman.

If women want to vote for Bernie Sanders, fine. Many of them will ultimately support Hillary in the GE - unless they are totally insane. But I personally believe that those women who are most strident in asserting that they never will vote for HRC have never really known - or simply have chosen to forget - how things were and in some ways still are insofar as women's rights are concerned.

I know and have never forgotten. I do not intend to forget. And I will vote for Hillary Clinton. Proudly. Period.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
29. the amazing thing is that this doesn't turn off men at all
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

you don't see men saying "let's block her to make sure there's no woman president" so no downside.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
69. Some of her votes will be for that very reason.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:15 PM
Feb 2016

I'm fine with that.

Our fault for not admitting or supporting enough (and better) female candidates long ago.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
70. I'm not fine with it.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:24 PM
Feb 2016

Voting for someone based on gender and not issues, is pathetic. Then people wonder why this country is so screwed up? That's why it's screwed up. People voting for movie stars, just because they're movie stars...Reagan, Schwarzenegger, Sonny Bono, Fred Gandy, Fred Thompson, etc..., the most handsome, the prettiest and now gender. It's ridiculous.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
72. Identity politics isn't going away.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:38 PM
Feb 2016

At least not until election winners statistically resemble the populations that vote.

Until that far-off day, candidates are going to get votes just because they're _________. There's simply no way around it, or around the blame we earned for not insisting on equality sooner.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
12. Only people who don't understand the issues.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

If the issue you are voting on is whether or not the candidate is a woman, you aren't really smart enough to vote.

The sex, race, creed, etc.. of a candidate SHOULD NOT EVER be an issue for why you are voting FOR them, because it is the same thing as if you voted AGAINST them because they are a woman.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
16. Dismissive much?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:56 PM
Feb 2016

I am voting for Hillary and I understand the issues quite well. I also understand when a candidate over promises on things he will never be able to achieve. I prefer someone who will get things done, even if it's in increments.


LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
23. And what will Hillary get done? What issues will she get Republicans to vote with her on?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:12 PM
Feb 2016

Strangely (not really) the Hillaryites never answer that one.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
24. 100% dismissive of anyone...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:13 PM
Feb 2016

who is voting for Clinton BECAUSE she is a woman.

You believe Clinton will get things done and that is why you are voting for her... great.

As someone who studied logic and reasoning, Clinton's entire platform falls apart b/c she has no more chance of getting anything done than Sanders, so I would rather vote for the person with the better chance of getting a high turnout... but that is a debate worth having, instead of this "it's time for a woman president, so we have to be stuck with this one" line.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
66. And of course no repsonse from Hillary cheerleaders
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:53 PM
Feb 2016

Who needs facts anyway when you can simply make unfounded claims? Hey, it works for their candidate...

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
52. Hating women is misogyny. Choosing the best person for the job is not.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:13 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary is still my choice over any Republican.Man or woman.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. I think it's cool but has nothing to do with supporting Hillary
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:45 PM
Feb 2016

She is best qualified and very smart and a good successor to President Obama and will keep the Republicans from going wild.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
15. I am voting for Hillary because she is by far the best qualified person to hold the job.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:53 PM
Feb 2016

There'll always be a "but" when a woman is in the running, but hopefully this time around we will prevail.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
34. Very unlikely she'll ever be President
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016

No one can possibly turn out the vote like Hillary. She's the best GOTV imaginable. For republicans and she's alienating millions of would be democratic voters.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
44. "She's alienating millions of would be democratic voters"
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016

The polling of millions of "wouldbes" can be a tricky business, but I'm not one to dispute the accuracy of your state of the art clicker.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
46. There's a heck more likelihood of Hillary becoming president than of Sanders getting nominated.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:45 PM
Feb 2016

Krytan11c

(271 posts)
56. Nina turner is a gem
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

I hope she's considering a senate run. Another strong, progressive voice is sorely needed there.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
41. I bet you think
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:29 PM
Feb 2016

It's honest to promise things you have no hope of schieving. Sanders is either stupid enough to believe his own rhetoric or is knowingly lying neither of which shows integrity.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
43. He's doing neither of those things.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:32 PM
Feb 2016

You should listen to any one of Sanders' speeches so that you can understand what he is for.

Any speech will do.

And, his supporters know this is but the beginning of a very long and hard process. We know. We really do!!

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
47. Hear, hear!!!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:47 PM
Feb 2016

Promises are cheap and asking for a political revolution to fulfill those promises is utter B.S.

But, apparently people will believe anything.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
54. And JFK said, "...we choose to go to the moon..."
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:22 PM
Feb 2016

..."We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win ...

This was the dream at the time. Now we need a major political challenge. Bernie has put it out there.

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
55. Throughout history, all people of vision are met w/naysayers.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

I personally don't like the status quo very much. Obama has made some positive strides while digging us out of a huge hole caused by the Bush administration. From where I sit, the Clintons are much too cozy w/the Bushes & have been for decades.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
63. Yeah, like FDR, with that Social Security and Glass Steagall and all that impossible stuff
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:09 PM
Feb 2016

Yep ... FDR, what a dreamer! ..

Good thing people saw right through him and his fancy dreams about helping the middle class ...

They immediately turned him OUT of office!

Well, almost immediately, because it took time to see what ....

Oh ... Wait ... The people loved him?

He got ALL that stuff PASSED? ... HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!#+&$

Yeah, well, he only lasted one term, and ...

Oh criminy! ... FOUR FUCKING TERMS? ...

I'm thinking he might have won a fifth term had he survived the fourth term ...

It seems that people REALLY REALLY REALLY loved that seminal Democratic Socialist ....

They REALLY loved FDR ....

I'm thinking this is Bernie's moment ... His FDR Moment ...

You Hillary supporters, rejecting a better world because it's too hard! ...

NO WE CAN'T! ....

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
45. I'm worried about a Republican president.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:39 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not excited, I'm just hoping for a sense of relief when it all gets decided.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
61. I'm excited about having SUCH A QUALIFIED and BRILLIANT person in the WH. The fact that ...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

... the next president will be a woman is just the icing on the cake! Maybe I'm being a bit Pollyanna-ish, but I think that there will be some noticeable changes in the way women are perceived, treated, and paid.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
62. Meh. I want the best PERSON leading this country, male or female.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

In this election cycle, Hillary isn't that person for me and all attempts to guilt me into voting for because she has a vagina only make me pissed off.

64. Yes, We Really Need to Elect the Next Iron Lady: Hillary -- A Margaret Thatcher for Our Time!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

Thatcher was the first female prime minister in Britain. The Ronald Reagan of her country, she devastated the unions and set in motion the reversal of Britain's health and welfare laws, to the detriment of millions of women and children. Then, to prove how "macho" she was, Thatcher started an absurd war with Argentina. The only major difference between Thatcher and Clinton is that Thatcher never lied about her reactionary conservative politics. She was quite honest about them. Clinton is an expert at obfuscating her plans.

Hillary Clinton has already demonstrated her war mongering "iron ladyness" by fomenting the CIA triggered coup in Libya resulting in the butchering of one of Africa's most progressively socialist leaders and destroying the lives of of its then quite liberated women. Now those once independent women have been forced out of their egalitarian jobs and, on the pain of death by reactionary religious terrorists, into purdah.

The women of Iraq, once working side by side with their men at all levels of jobs have, thanks in part to Clinton's vote to allow Bush's invasion of Iraq, are now prohibited from such equality and hide, segregated behind black cloth, like their Libyan sisters.


Since leaving Libya in warring chaos, Clinton now calls for similar actions in Syria. Her demands for a "no fly" zone exposes the Middle East and the rest of the world to the outbreak of World War III, risking as it does a direct military confrontation with Russia. That would undoubtedly resound to the benefit of millions more women and children, if they survive the bombs.

Clinton and her celebrated surrogate, former secretary of state Madeleine Albright, welcomed the draconian sanctions against Iran which resulted in the deaths of more than 500,000 children and, upon John Kerry's successful negotiation of a treaty diminishing a possible nuclear threat from Iran, Clinton immediately called for new bellicose sanctions against Iran.


Yes, just what we need, another Margaret Thatcher! Forgive me if I am so sexist as to prefer to wait for a honest,rational and truthful woman presidential candidate. In the meantime, I'm voting for Bernie Sanders, an honest, rational and truthful human being -- and the most truly feminist -- the best candidate, bar none, to have appeared in all my seventy years of existence.



Vinca

(50,273 posts)
67. Great post.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:58 PM
Feb 2016

When I clicked on it I thought I was going to have to yell at you about Margaret Thatcher. LOL. I just got back from voting for Bernie.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
71. "Vote for Lady MacBeth in 2016!"
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:28 PM
Feb 2016

"Screw your courage to the sticking point and we'll make small advances"


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