Bill Clinton's Vicious Lies Not Resonating: "The junior high school’s small gym was not full..."

[amborin]

Last edited Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:47 PM - Edit history (1)

As usual, NY Times has its daily front page attack on Bernie.

But readers' comments typically denounce the blatant shilling. Here're a few re: Bill's despicable desperation:

"The junior high school’s small gym was not full, and only a handful of reporters showed up." The smaller the crowds the more hyperbolic the rhetoric. Bill's attack smacks of desperation in a campaign that has faced a challenge that they thought would never develop. Odd that 6 mo. ago the small crowds were Bernie's. I believe Hillary's downfall (if it occurs) will be because of Bill and the sense of entitlement that he brings. It's like the Superbowl: Cam Newton couldn't believe he was being defeated by an old man. "How could this be? It's not fair! It's my time!"

Bill, you might do well to remember South Carolina in '08, when you called Barack Obama's candidacy a "fairy tale", and it was a disaster for your wife's campaign.

"It's Just Not Fair !" Bill and Hillary 2016

The President who signed the repeal of the law that dismantled Glass Steagall is upset with the would-be President Sanders who is trying to correct that utter and complete catastrophe.

Welcome to 0.1% Clintonian triangulation, hypocrisy, desperation and intellectual bankruptcy.

"It's Just Not Fair !" Bill and Hillary 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us/politics/bill-clinton-after-months-of-restraint-unleashes-stinging-attack-on-bernie-sanders.html?&target=comments&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&modref=HPCommentsRefer&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news#commentsContainer

[cali]

1. In a just world, Bill and Hillary's lying smears would end

up boomeranging on Hillary. This disgusting but predictable dog shit from them may work in the primary, but it will come back to haunt her in November.

The only good thing I can think of about Hillary losing us the Whie House, is that we'll be done with them.

That is cold comfort.

[hedgehog]

18. So that's why they call him the Big Dawg!

[bvar22]

101. Bill needs to stay under the porch at the Bush compound where they keep him...

...with the other Old Dogs.

You KNOW the Democratic Party Conservative Establishment is worried when they drag the Old Dog out from under the porch. As soon as Hillary flashed the Old Dog emergency signal in the night skies of Iowa,
I KNEW she was in trouble.

[LiberalArkie]

74. The revolution is coming. It may not be this year of even 4 years from now. But it will happen.

Tech is going to go boom, just way too many H1B's. Loans are going to go boom again also. Occupy will return. The numbers of people who were earning 6 figures and are now working at Best Buy and Home Depot are staggering. I keep up with the software and wan geeks at Best Buy these days. These guys were told to get into project management, then they automated that. They were told get you Cisco can Juniper certificates and they did and then H1B's showed up.

When I got my severance package it was 26 weeks pay, last year they changed it to 13 weeks. At the gym today one of my friends still working where I did told me that in 2016 severance will change to 6 weeks max.

There will be a revolution one way or the other.

[burrowowl]

109. Yes it is coming!

I hope before it is too late!

[Rockyj]

114. I am so DONE with the Clintons as with the Bushes...

They're actually making Trump look like a Priest compared to them. The Clinton's are a greedy lying family who will never cop to the fact they caused needless suffering & thousands of death in the wars they voted for and to the black community with their war on WELFARE & DRUGS & the INCARCERATION of young black men! HOW NAFTA screwed over the middle class over & how Bill Clinton took advantage of a young intern! WTF is that about? Why would anyone think his position as the most most powerful man of the free world think it was okay to use his status for his own sexual satisfaction? How sick & perverted is that?

[cui bono]

2. The Clintons are the old guard. We want the new guardian!

FEEL THE BERN!!!


.

[snagglepuss]

16. Clinton the old guards, these old guards being foxes guarding the henhouse!

[dae]

42. Great OP & agree. Out with Hill/Bill and in with Bernie!

[newthinking]

82. The establishment does not get it. This is not just about "Bernie". Their days are over.

I am finally (really) "getting" the Bernie movement. It is not just about Bernie, it is about finally doing what all of us have been wanting to do. Bringing in a new President is only one part. Just winning the presidency will wake up the rest of the population and change the dynamics of congressional and senate races.

It could end the establishment incumbency problem in congress. They would not be able to run on the same lies.

[Unknown Beatle]

89. I absolutely agree with you,

but, the incumbents aren't going down without a dirty fight. They will lie, steal votes, manipulate, gerrymander further, suppress even more voters, disappear hundreds of thousands of voter registrations, etc. These assholes don't care about democracy, all they want is power and the money it brings from lobbyists. D.C. is a very corrupt place and getting even more corrupt by the day.

We definitely need a revolution. We need to fight alongside Bernie to change DC.

Feel The Bern!

[TwilightGardener]

3. The red plaid shirt...good lord.

[SoapBox]

14. OMG!

...I saw that and thought, is he trying to look "woodsy"?

[dae]

46. The same shirt as the manwich sammich guy, yikes!

[MADem]

48. Yeah, people who wear plaid while supporting a candidate should be .... what? Shot, or something?

LOL!

Sorry, I think the "bad plaid" fashion critiques are pretty doggone petty!

[Mike__M]

20. LOL

When Bernie came to Oregon, he did not put on a Portlandia costume.

[pangaia]

24. When he was on SNL he wore the same clothes he had on when he walked in..

including a VEST, for goodness sake.

How unhip is that?

[MADem]

49. Bill isn't running for POTUS, so why are you comparing them?

Are you sure Jane wasn't wearing one?

[hopemountain]

117. ....

bill looks pretty ridiculous...the dark indigo jeans buttoned up over his navel ....

[azmom]

31. He looked a sad mess.

[SammyWinstonJack]

55. Oh, no kidding. Like Hillary's phoney accent , trying to fit in, or make it seem that way.

[MissDeeds]

57. That's so offensive

She used a Midwestern dialect when speaking in Iowa. I guess that's all part of her evolving. - from state to state.

[SammyWinstonJack]

62. Yes Hill/Bill are offensive.

[7962]

77. You should hear her when she's down south nt

[PonyUp]

118. She's no ways tired

[7962]

122. HA!

[MissDeeds]

125. OMG my ears!

[Dustlawyer]

123. She is dishonest even in the way she speaks vs. Bernie who is just Bernie!

[MoonchildCA]

95. When he comes to California,

I expect him to be in a tank top, board shorts, and Vans, and also say "Dude" a lot, or I just don't think I'll be able to connect with him.

[southerncrone]

115. Here's his twin.

[frazzled]

4. Readers' comments? Really?

You guys make me laugh.

[Goblinmonger]

7. You know, the people that actually vote.

I know Clinton might want to dismiss them at this point, but eventually she will have to deal with them. Eventually. Maybe. I don't know how she comes back to get young women to support her after the "you young women are just supporting Sanders to find a hook up" that came from the Albright/Steinem show.

[frazzled]

8. You know, the crazy anonymous Internet minions

Do you believe all comments people make on the Internet?

[Goblinmonger]

9. No, I don't. But I don't dismiss them, either.

Clinton seems to be doing a pretty good job of alienating those that are supporting Sanders. If she wins the nomination (IF), she is going to regret throwing the millennials under the bus. She will regret having Albright say there is a "special place in hell." She will regret Steinem saying they are supporting Sanders for "the boys."

But just keep ignoring that.

[Voice for Peace]

54. I think you're correct and she's continuing

to lose support from millennial voters with every disingenuous step. I am very sure that a lot of them will never ever vote for her.

[malthaussen]

128. Whether they will vote at all is the question.

While the youth vote is overwhelmingly behind Mr Sanders, their turnout was still pretty undistinguished in Iowa. If more had bothered to turn out, there would be no question of Mrs Clinton "winning" that caucus. This is a point that should be taken into consideration.

-- Mal

[PonyUp]

10. Weren't the "crazy anonymous internet minions" the ones Bill was complaining about?

I believe the papers he was holding were supposedly comments about Hillary from the internet.

[pangaia]

26. Did he actually WEAR that shirt??

OMG ! That is maybe the funniest thing I have seen from the Clinton campaign yet.

I mean...

Will he wear a sombrero, cowboy boots, a turquoise belt buckle and a serape when he goes to New Mexico?

What a dumb dufus.

[azmom]

32. LOL

[immoderate]

35. ... Borrowed it from Lamar Alexander, hisself!

--imm

[nichomachus]

39. Look at the people on the sidelines

Not one flannel shirt in sight

[SheilaT]

43. Hey!

We don't wear sombreros here in New Mexico!

The odd cowboy hat, yes. Silver and turquoise belt buckles, sometimes. And some men wear those bolero ties. So that's how he should dress if he comes here.

[pangaia]

51. I know,I know, :>)) But BILL might not!

I love NM and have been there many times.... If I had more $$ I would retire there.. maybe in Taos. Good friends in ABQ...




On Edit:

Oh, I have a couple of Valentines.. ME? Wow...

How sweet... I'd better behave myself.... :&gt

[SheilaT]

73. Do you suppose we should write a letter to Bill

suggesting an appropriate wardrobe if he comes here?

And honest, NM, even Santa Fe, is not all that expensive to live in. It has the reputation, but not the reality. You might want to look in the New Mexico forum, as people have asked and answered questions about living here.

[pangaia]

83. Well you could do an OP for starters. :>))

I will check out the NM forum..
I played the Sante Fe Opera a few summers... so I know the area a bit...

OH !! the food!!!!

One of my teachers was very close friends with Georgia O'Keefe. How cool is that?

[SheilaT]

85. Oh, my!

You are vastly better connected to this city than I am!

[pangaia]

86. Really?

I haven't been there since. maybe 2008...

[SheilaT]

88. I moved here in 2008.

After a divorce. It's been a wonderful place to reinvent myself.

[PonyUp]

99. YEE HAW!!!

[madokie]

44. Lamar Alexander

come on bill you can do better. Hell I live here in redneck country and I can show you my closet and there will be no plaid shirts, shorts or underwear to be found. None of my friends wear them either. LOL

[asjr]

80. Do you mean they walk around naked?

[PonyUp]

100. I DO NOT want to see the Big Dog butt nekkid. n/t

[Goblinmonger]

68. All I hear in my head when I see that is...

[TIME TO PANIC]

76. +1

[pangaia]

84. :>))))))))))))))

[PonyUp]

98. OLE'!!! n/t

[PADemD]

110. Was the shirt borrowed from Lamar Alexander?

[gordyfl]

69. Playing the Victim, again.

There they go again, playing the victim card, like there's some sort of left wing conspiracy.

What we're seeing is that Hillary is not a uniter. We're seeing how polarizing she is within the Democratic Party.

She alienated the progressive wing of the party from the beginning. She didn't need them to win, she thought.

[questionseverything]

93. the whole thing is very very sad

former president reduced to mocking some unknown people on the internet

did no campaign adviser tell him....um mr president, anyone can say they are anything on the net ...doesn't make it true

[frylock]

112. Really something to behold, isn't it?

[40RatRod]

97. More likely they are from DU and not the internet.

The big dog is barking and I don't blame him. The comments he has in his hand were likely word from word from some of our more rabid DU's on this forum.

[bvar22]

104. I have a shirt just like that!!!

I wear it when I'm cutting and splitting firewood....you know, stuff like WORK,
something The Clintons are not familiar with.
It looks so phony on that multi-Millionaire with the soft hands.

[PonyUp]

105. I bet his is a designer shirt he paid at least $200 for. n/t

[99Forever]

23. Said the anonymous Internet poster...

...on the Internet board...

[MADem]

36. Ha ha ha!! I know!!!

I think the bitter fashion critiques are even more hilarious!!

I guess these sophisticates haven't checked (CHECKED--get it? LOL!) with their sylists, but patterns are all the rage, and plaid leads the charge. You can get dizzy looking at all the plaids on your average college campus! Never mind city streets!!!


I guess VOGUE stylin' ain't good enough for these folks up in here!! LOL!


http://www.vogue.com/slideshow/11257405/plaid-trends/

[stillwaiting]

5. Hope this is true!

Thanks for posting!

[artyteacher]

6. I thought it passed with a majority thay was veto proof. eom

[k8conant]

11. That's no reason for Clinton not to veto it if he was against it...

is it?

[nichomachus]

13. Love the plaid shirt

People in New Hampshire just "love" elitist flatlanders who come up, put on a flannel shirt, and try to pretend they're one of them. You see them every summer and once every four years just before the primary. Then, they go away and don't come back until the next time. They are generally viewed with a mixture of amusement and contempt.

[LiberalLovinLug]

25. Yes, its a trick usually used by politicians

who have a base that is easily fooled.



On Bill it just looks transparently ridiculous.

[dixiegrrrrl]

126. Hmmm..on Cruz, it looks more normal.

Does not fit Bill's personality at all, tho.

Well, they can haul the shirts out again if they hit Seattle.

[sarge43]

28. You must be a Granitehead, nichomachus

Amusement and contempt. Ayeup.

[nichomachus]

38. Political consultant goes into the general store

Says to the guy behind the counter -- "Lot of really odd people around here."

Guy behind the counter says, "Ayeup -- be gone right after the election."

[sarge43]

40. Hiram shoots down another one of them

[SoapBox]

15. Pathetic.

The Clintons and their desperate Entrenched Elite Establishment cronies just don't get it.

It will certainly be her downfall.

[Nanjeanne]

17. Can the Clintons & Bushes just retire from politics gracefully and stop looking so desparate. nt

[840high]

41. Oh - yes please!

[SammyWinstonJack]

56. We'd all be better off if they would.

[Ino]

19. Oh dear... they turned NH into her logo

[Chakab]

21. At least that rightward pointing arrow is blue.

[amborin]

50. NH = Not Hillary

[HooptieWagon]

52. Bwahahaha!

[SammyWinstonJack]

58. LMAO

[Pastiche423]

108. GMFAO!

[PonyUp]

120. Good one! LMAO! nt

[Wig Master]

72. I agree -- The red arrow looked borderline tumescent

[arikara]

45. Brand new jeans, brand new shirt

That's so very convincing!

LOL

[treestar]

22. Why is it that Bernie should not have anyone fight back?

Who cares how many people are there at any given rally?

Meh, Bill is just fighting back, that's how it is in elections. It's not desperation and if he said nothing, it would be stated he did not stand up for his candidate.

[greymouse]

59. fighting back

There's a difference between fighting back, like, you know, addressing issues, vs rolling around in the gutter.

[AzDar]

27. Wearing his new shirt, in "Pandering Plaid"...

UGH.

The entire Clinton crew need to go away...

[Cheese Sandwich]

29. I expect him to come out in a Red Sox cap and a Patriots sweatshirt

[avaistheone1]

34. Don't be surprised...

that should happen any day now.

[zentrum]

30. Does anyone have

…..a picture or video of the larger room and the size of the crowd? A small turn out for Bill is a real sign of Clinton-fatigue.

He's supposed to be the "likable one".

[Helen Borg]

33. Uphill Hill....

Nice try though...

[MADem]

37. You forgot to link to the excerpts you have provided--please fill that in. TIA. nt

[nichomachus]

47. Here's your proof that there is no god

If there were, as soon as Slick Willy claimed that other people were dishonest, the sky would have opened up and rained lightning bolts.

[Helen Borg]

61. Righto!

He has no credibility in that domain.

[mike dub]

53. This reminds me … I need to put Brawny paper towels on the grocery list...

eom

[SammyWinstonJack]

60. Ha!

[Oilwellian]

63. Bwaaa!

[Motown_Johnny]

67. I wonder what focus group picked out that shirt for him.

Or maybe he was trying to wear it "ironically" and just couldn't pull it off.

[Fumesucker]

71. I was kind of waiting for the Lumberjack Song

I sleep all night and I work all day

[fun n serious]

111. People are getting shallow....

Criticizing clothes? I thought that was only done in freeperland by rednecks.

[Fumesucker]

116. I enjoy the Lumberjack song, it would have shown self awareness on his part to whistle a bar

There's a reason Paul Tsongas called Bill "Pander Bear"...

[catchnrelease]

78. omg!

Thank god I didn't have a mouthful of tea when I read that!

[hopemountain]

119. ...

bill - such a 'manly man'

[Joey Liberal]

64. Bernie speaks for me. Hill/Bill do not.

The Clinton's should focus on crazy's like Cruz, Rubio and Christie.

[Motown_Johnny]

65. Former President punching down at "Internet Trolls".

What a horrible campaign.


Hillary is the only person in American history to have a former President as a spouse while running for President. Because he is actively campaigning for her, she has an advantage nobody else has ever had.

Not only has she squandered a huge lead and lots of money, despite the former Presidents best efforts, but she now has him out complaining that anonymous posters on the internet sometimes say bad things about her.


In politics, you should never punch down. This is the most extreme example of someone making that mistake which I can imagine. Even Chelsea's lies about Bernie were not this bad.

As I said earlier, horrible campaign.

[frylock]

113. Total amateur hour up in here.

[fbc]

66. The flailing is amazing

Do they have a strategy meeting every day where they discuss the new nonsense attacks they've come up with that will convince nobody and only continue to make them look worse?

[questionseverything]

94. evidently they do...yesterday here at du we were hearing the same exact stuff

logogate

buttongate

bernie has mean peops on the net

it is one thing hearing that waddle from posters here but to hear a former president lower himself this way...just sad

[ViseGrip]

70. He only showed up to a small affair, because the purpose was to smear, it only takes one reporter.

[gordyfl]

75. Experts Predict a Decisive Win for Hillary in SC

Over 800 people showed up to hear Bill Clinton. Local news with video...


http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/bill-clinton-south-carolina-stumping-his-wife/nqH3X/

[jonestonesusa]

107. 800 people! To see a former president! A new record!

Let's see, what shirt style cries out, "Carolina"?

[gordyfl]

121. 3000 Greet "Senator" Obama in 2007 - Columbia, SC

COLUMBIA, S.C. — Barrack Obama made his first campaign stop Friday in South Carolina, delivering a rousing can-do message to an enthusiastic crowd of 3,000 at Columbia's convention center.

"I don't believe in this can't-do, won't-do, won't-even-try style of leadership," the senator from Illinois said, drawing chants of "Yes, we can!" from the sign-waving throng.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-02-16-obama-sc_x.htm

[Cheap_Trick]

79. But..but..it's her tuuuuurn.... n/t

[senz]

81. I'm glad he went severely negative.

It just reflects back on him.

[olddots]

87. be thankful he didn't bring his skateboard

[emsimon33]

90. You mean NAFTA Bill, for-profits prisons Bill, TANF revisions Bill. the Bill who screwed the 99%

The Bill who can't keep it in his pants? Hey, Bill, we are taking our Party back. I hope you and Hillary have made enough millions to survive the revolution.

[vkkv]

91. The hypocrisy of Hillary supporters: Bill Clinton is a sexist but if YOU do not

support Hillary, then YOU are a sexist.

[Enthusiast]

92. Kicked and recommended!

[fierywoman]

96. Bill deja vu

Does Bill's tone of voice, body language, etc remind anyone else of when he looked straight at the American public (on tv) and said, " I -- did - not -- have-- sex -- with -- that -- woman," ???

[Jarqui]

102. Axelrod: Clinton should look inward over struggles

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/08/politics/david-axelrod-hillary-clinton-campaign/index.html

David Axelrod, the former top political adviser to President Barack Obama, said Monday that Hillary Clinton's inner circle should accept more responsibility for the candidate's struggles.

"When the exact same problems crop up in separate campaigns, with different staff, at what point do the principals say, 'Hey, maybe it's US?'" Axelrod tweeted, referencing the internal turmoil that gripped Clinton's losing
...
By late Monday afternoon, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta moved to put out the fire, saying in his own tweet, "There is zero truth to what you may be reading. It's wrong. Hillary stands behind her team, period."

Axelrod, Bernstein, Politco all saying similar things generally = there's a problem, John.

[Babel_17]

103. Yeah, the comments sections have been amazing lately (nt)

[Javaman]

106. Whine, whine, whine...

want some cheese Bill?

[Iggy Knorr]

124. The spell has worn off

except for those whose conditioning is strong.

[NorthCarolina]

127. Is it just me, or is Bill looking a bit frail lately?

eom

[newblewtoo]

129. Just back from the polls

no wait but busy. On the outside were only Hillary and Carly volunteers. A few Bernie signs, along with Hillary, plus a Rubio, and Jeb. No Trump signs anywhere.

Now about flannel shirts ... It is New Hampshire and it is winter. I just disposed of my favorite called, "Beetle Juice" and replaced him with a red one very similar to Bill's which I nicknamed "Fargo". And, a case can be made for wearing denim as opposed to nice suit pants. It gets darn cold and it looks like Bill don't got a lot of meat left on his old bones. Mom always said you dress for comfort not to please; many a day she looked like Marjorie Main as Ma Kettle but at least she was warm.

It's always fun to watch folk from away fly in to Logan from down South in shorts and sandals to find out it is a brisk ten above zero and ground transportation is outside.